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The jetpack was totally inane. While it got more frequent in the Moore years, this was and still is about as ridiculous as it gets.
I disagree with the thesis.
So if someone built a working croc sub you'd be fine with it would you?
http://www.fugusub.com/
Just put a croc head on it.
If it was in a good movie, yeah. The Jet pack, whether anyone likes it or not, was in one of the better Bond films. The thesis is basically stating that the Moore movies were dragged down by gadgets, comedy and poor screenwriting.
I will say that the Lotus was a cool prop, perhaps the best Bond gadget in the Moore films.
No it doesn't.
So put a working croc sub in OHMSS or FRWL and you think its great despite saying its 'outright silly' in your previous post...? Any chance of you holding together a coherent argument?
You are correct of course to say that the thesis states that the Moore films were dragged down by gadgets. The fact that Connery and Brosnan films also suffered from this is inadmissible when it comes to discussing this particular thesis.
Therefore I would probably agree that the Moore films suffered from sloppy writing when it comes to gadgets digging Bond out of tricky situations - however the implication is that this is only a problem exclusive to the Moore films. In the interests if balance I'd like to see the next thesis state 'The lazy writing re gadgets started in the Connery era.'
I'd take umbrage that the jetpack features in one of the better films as I don't rate TB as any higher than mediocre, and that's when I'm feeling generous.
The jetpack is simply a convenient deux ex machina thrown in by someone at EON who heard about this gadget that actually worked and thought it would be cool. It does not help the story one iota any more than pulling out a length of rope would. And as for 'undercutting the character' - have you ever read Fleming?
Don't get confused by the fact that because the jetpack worked it automatically makes it brilliant. The rebreather is a far better Bond gadget than the jetpack despite the fact it never actually worked. That snooper thing in AVTAK looks like it actually works - doesn't stop it from being shit does it?
Yes the croc sub is silly but no more so than Bond strapping on the jetpack.
Oh, @TheWiz is gonna have a field day with that post.
Speak for yourself. I'd love to have a croc-o-sub. I'd use it to scare people. :))
Whenever I see it, I'm reminded of this.
Most people would want to put on a jetpack and fly around.
I love both TB and OP. I find TB the superior movie and one of the most underrated Bond movies on these forums, for many reasons. But the jetpack is not one of them. The crocodile sub is actually not laughable: the island's water is swarmed with crocs, by using a crocodile sub Bond remains safe and avoids detection. And I find it very plausible that Q branch designs on short notice a particular gadget for particular situations, if they know it is going to be needed. I find the crocodile sub far more believable that a submarine car.
<font color=blue size=7><b>Spectre comes off as most menacing in FRWL.</b></font>
:)>-
The group of supervillains who meet up.
I always liked that look of terror Klebb has on her face at the end of FRWL when she thinks she's about to be killed.
In YOLT the plan is so ridiculously OTT that the menace goes with the plausibility. And Blofeld is now a petulant child. Bond is not so nearly as cornered as he was in FRWL. Oh and something else that FRWL has to keep SPECTRE threatening: many of those who get murdered by it we care about them.