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The James Bond Debate Thread - 336 Craig looks positively younger in SP than he does in SF.

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  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
    edited February 2012 Posts: 401
    Kerim wrote:
    Craig in CR was the breath of fresh air the franchise and the fans deserved.
    CR was not a improvement over DAD. CR was a melodramatic DAD. CR is not a serious film, or an entertaining one at that.
    Getafix wrote:
    Brozza sucked from his first abysmal and soul sapping appearance in GE.
    Why is he your profile picture if you despise him?

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited February 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Dr_Metz wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    Craig in CR was the breath of fresh air the franchise and the fans deserved.
    CR was not a improvement over DAD. CR was a melodramatic DAD. CR is not a serious film, or an entertaining one at that.
    Getafix wrote:
    Brozza sucked from his first abysmal and soul sapping appearance in GE.
    Why is he your profile picture if you despise him?

    Exactly! I think everyone wants to know that. If its meant to be ironic it isn't.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    Dr_Metz wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    Craig in CR was the breath of fresh air the franchise and the fans deserved.
    CR was not a improvement over DAD. CR was a melodramatic DAD. CR is not a serious film, or an entertaining one at that.

    Craig hater?
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
    edited February 2012 Posts: 401
    Kerim wrote:
    Dr_Metz wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    Craig in CR was the breath of fresh air the franchise and the fans deserved.
    CR was not a improvement over DAD. CR was a melodramatic DAD. CR is not a serious film, or an entertaining one at that.

    Craig hater?
    No, Barbara Broccoli hater. But Craig isn't exactly amazing either. But if I did hate Craig, why is that a problem? Am I not allowed to dislike an actor?

  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Dr_Metz wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    Craig in CR was the breath of fresh air the franchise and the fans deserved.
    CR was not a improvement over DAD. CR was a melodramatic DAD. CR is not a serious film, or an entertaining one at that.
    Getafix wrote:
    Brozza sucked from his first abysmal and soul sapping appearance in GE.
    Why is he your profile picture if you despise him?

    It's to remind me how much I hate him.

    Although I think DUD is the worst film (any film) ever made, I kind of agree with you about CR. I think it's been over-hyped. I quite like Craig, although he needs to lighten up a bit, but CR IMO was plodding and dull. There were some nice scenes and I thought Vesper was good, but overall it didn't deliver. For me QoS was actually an improvement on some levels - faster paced and with some more obviously Bondian touches, such as the opera scene.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    Disagreed.

    Craig is - IMO - one of the best Bonds ever and certainly the right Bond for this day and age. Of course, if one doesn't like Craig, that's fine but calling CR a melodramatic DAD feels miles away from the truth.

    Also, a Barbara Broccoli hater? Sound rather strong, wouldn't you say? ;-)
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited February 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Getafix wrote:
    Dr_Metz wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    Craig in CR was the breath of fresh air the franchise and the fans deserved.
    CR was not a improvement over DAD. CR was a melodramatic DAD. CR is not a serious film, or an entertaining one at that.
    Getafix wrote:
    Brozza sucked from his first abysmal and soul sapping appearance in GE.
    Why is he your profile picture if you despise him?

    It's to remind me how much I hate him.



    Well that doesn't sound juvenile at all
    :-S :-S :-S
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    He had one more in him yes, but sometimes I'm glad it never happened.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Brozza could have kept on pain-facing his way through Bond movies for another 20 years given a chance.
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
    Posts: 401
    Getafix wrote:
    Although I think DUD is the worst film (any film) ever made
    It's funny, because that's the same feeling I have for Casino Royale.

  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    I suppose DUD is at least so bad it makes an impact, whereas CR was just a bit bland.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Getafix wrote:
    Brozza could have kept on pain-facing his way through Bond movies for another 20 years given a chance.

    I think even he knew, he had to stay for less time than Moore did. I believe he wanted another film in 2005 and then one final one in 2007. By then he would have been 54 which is old enough for Bond in my opinion.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    He should have looked after himself a bit better then. He looked like a fat bloated business exec by the time of DUD.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    Getafix wrote:
    He should have looked after himself a bit better then. He looked like a fat bloated business exec by the time of DUD.

    As did Sean in DAF
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    True. I am not a big fan of DAF either.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2012 Posts: 13,355
    If Brosnan was to come back 12 years after leaving for an unofficial film, like Connery did, it would be in 2014 and may go against Bond 24.

    Would Brosnan's Bond, completely flop?
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Not gonna happen now that the whole McGrory (whatever his name is) saga is over.
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
    edited February 2012 Posts: 401
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Would Brosnan's Bond, completely flop?
    Probably not, actually. The general public seemed to love Brosnan's Bond.
  • chuck007chuck007
    Posts: 172
    I prefer Brosnan make "Remington Steele the movie" after DAD...
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    While Brozza isn't as popular as he once was I still think he has the mass appeal to draw in audiences. Look at Mamma Mia for instance. Don't forget he's still well liked and - dare I say it - I still like him a bit too.
  • Dr_MetzDr_Metz
    edited February 2012 Posts: 401
    Getafix wrote:
    Not gonna happen now that the whole McGrory (whatever his name is) saga is over.
    John Gardner's books were never adapted. And I don't think EON holds the rights to them either. I could see Brosnan coming back to do Licence Renewed.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Not gonna happen either as (I believe) the film Bond is a trademarked/copyrighted/otherwise unavailable.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Getafix wrote:
    Not gonna happen now that the whole McGrory (whatever his name is) saga is over.

    Of course not, I just thought it may be worth discussing, this what-if.

    A 61 year old Bond would be quite something, the film would take money but would Brosnan demand a really good script this time?
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    If he couldn't get a good script out of EON in ten years can't see him doing it now.

    Roger was about to drop dead in AVTAK so Brozza at 61 wouldn't be all that ridiculous.
  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    Samuel001 wrote:
    If Brosnan was to come back 12 years after leaving for an unofficial film, like Connery did, it would be in 2014 and may go against Bond 24.

    Would Brosnan's Bond, completely flop?

    No, it wouldn't totally bomb. But it also wouldn't be a big thing in the way Connery's return was. Everybody wanted to see that, the real James Bond coming back. A return of Brosnan would just be that, Brosnan once more. Fans of Brosnan and Bond would see it if only for curiosity's sake. But the larger audience would not care the way the did in 1983.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Plus Sean got a rather gorgeous Bond girl in NSNA.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    So what are you saying? Brosnan would get grannies?! =))
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    May be he'd finally bed M
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2012 Posts: 13,355
    LOL! That would finally be a reason to watch!
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Yeah, they could make it about something in M's past coming back to haunt her...
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