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The James Bond Debate Thread - 336 Craig looks positively younger in SP than he does in SF.

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  • identigraphidentigraph
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    If anyone tries to take out the beloved double taking pigeon, I'll send George Lazenby round to sort 'em out!
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    edited June 2012 Posts: 4,813
    Aside from digitally inserting Dalton into GoldenEye, I agree ;)

    Truthfully, if they removed the whistle from TMWTGG I sure wouldn't miss it
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Agree. The films should be left as they were originally released. It's bad enough when they got mutilated not edited for ITV viewings. Leave them alone as its a part of its charm.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Yes, I'm in 100% agreement with this one. We don't want the Lucas way of doing things.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    No fixing otherwise some folks cannot moan about GL anymore. :D
  • 00130013
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    Who doesn't want a CGI M in FYEO, a NOOOO! inserted when Tracy dies or a Professor Dent really shooting first before Bond kills him in cold blood??

    Well, I don't. I agree with T-118.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    We don't want no tampering with these things, sooner or later they will realize they have to leave some things alone. Thesis seems accurate
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited June 2012 Posts: 4,521
    Things should be fixed (think about) before release on tv or cinema.

    I disagree a litle bit with Volante. Quality of the picture also can change your opnion of the movie. A good example is the preview of the BD of Twine from the BD pres conference where we you can see there at more blue dark cinematography to the factory where Christmis Jones and Valentine be. Screenshots i saw from the dvd of CR at les red for CR dvd, whyle with QOS there at more.

  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Well, in a certain way, I agree. but with technology evolving I can imagine a time where you could choose beforehand between two options (much like many ' alternate endings' you find as extra's). In a way putting the film together yourself. I for one do find a couple of things very annoying in a not-very-good-anyway DAF that I could do without and that would improve the joy for me watching it. That silly changing-sides in the alley for example. I wouldn't really have noticed the fact that the car is actually on the wrong wheels, adding that cut made it blatandly obvious. And that moonbuggy wheel that just comes bouncing about while they're chasing Bond. That's another one.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited June 2012 Posts: 24,186
    <font color=tomato size=4><b>THESIS 119</b></font>

    <font color=blue size=7><b>It cannot be coincidence that no Bond film, except CR and QOS, ever featured rain.</b></font>
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I don't think it means anything of significance. QoS also has rain, by the way. It is like looking at a Shakespeare passage and thinking every single sentence has a meaning. Sometimes *gasp* IT DOESN'T.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Thanks, OBrady. I fixed the thesis. ;-)
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Why not? what's supposed to be the connection? And isn't QoS all about not having any rain? ;)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    CommanderRoss wrote:
    Why not? what's supposed to be the connection? And isn't QoS all about not having any rain? ;)

    I think there are some rain drops in Bregenz. No?
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    Oh dear heavens, I have never noticed this before! Wow that's cool! Anywho, to answer the thesis at hand, I'd say it's just a coincidence. I doubt there's some deep, philosophical, or metaphorical meaning to the fact that Craig's two are the only ones with rain.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    How about convenience? Maybe the folks at EON don't like to shoot in the rain. ;-)
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    How about convenience? Maybe the folks at EON don't like to shoot in the rain. ;-)

    Ah, there's a more likely possibility!
  • VirageVirage
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    00Beast wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    How about convenience? Maybe the folks at EON don't like to shoot in the rain. ;-)

    Ah, there's a more likely possibility!

    No it isn't, You will proberbly find nearly all bond films have rain in them. Its just that rain in natural amounts can't be seen. As long as it is a light shower they continue filming. The rain we see in fim is usually provided by the local fire department.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Never really seen it as an issue? But in terms of the thesis? I guess i agree?
  • GetafixGetafix
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    It's another example of EON trying to copy the more moody, brooding atmosphere of the Bourne trilogy.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    CommanderRoss wrote:
    Why not? what's supposed to be the connection? And isn't QoS all about not having any rain? ;)

    I think there are some rain drops in Bregenz. No?
    No, @Dimi. There is rain when Bond travels in London (go figure) to Mitchell's apartment.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Rain? In the UK? Never! ;)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    CommanderRoss wrote:
    Why not? what's supposed to be the connection? And isn't QoS all about not having any rain? ;)

    I think there are some rain drops in Bregenz. No?
    No, @Dimi. There is rain when Bond travels in London (go figure) to Mitchell's apartment.

    You're right. ;-) Wow, I really need to go to sleep. Or get loaded on caffeine. ;-) QOS is a bit of a blur at this point yet I've seen the film a gazillion times. Comes from getting only half a decent scene every time I s'pose. ;-)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    RogueAgent wrote:
    Rain? In the UK? Never! ;)

    I thought it was a myth, long, long ago, but after seeing Bigfoot, I think anything is possible. He, Nessie and I play poker on the weekends. That hairy brute sure can bluff.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    CommanderRoss wrote:
    Why not? what's supposed to be the connection? And isn't QoS all about not having any rain? ;)
    Ah with the government getting control of the water supplies and the people going to be dying of thirst and the desert there ... yeah well I suppose. Reminds me of Chinatown a bit.

    I think there is no obvious intended meaning with the rain in CR and QOS.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Virage wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    How about convenience? Maybe the folks at EON don't like to shoot in the rain. ;-)

    Ah, there's a more likely possibility!

    No it isn't, You will proberbly find nearly all bond films have rain in them. Its just that rain in natural amounts can't be seen. As long as it is a light shower they continue filming. The rain we see in fim is usually provided by the local fire department.

    I seem to recall that weather conditions were poor during the DAD shoots on Dr. Alvarez' island. You could be right; rain might have been around in this case too but then in too short supplies to be perceptible on screen.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    OHMSS has rain. "Mr. Bond is in love with you?"
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    How about convenience? Maybe the folks at EON don't like to shoot in the rain. ;-)

    That's my thought too Dimi.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited June 2012 Posts: 28,694
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    How about convenience? Maybe the folks at EON don't like to shoot in the rain. ;-)

    That's my thought too Dimi.
    It could just be that simple :)). It does make for great drama, though.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited June 2012 Posts: 13,355
    echo wrote:
    OHMSS has rain. "Mr. Bond is in love with you?"

    Indeed it did. Plus the rain in Casino Royale didn't add to any mood at all. It was barely on screen for five seconds.
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