Goldeneye vs. Casino Royale

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited December 2011 Posts: 15,713
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    GE is a total dud from start to finish. Utter dross.

    Care to back up this statement with actual arguments?

    And not disregard other's positive opinion about GE...

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    DarthDimi wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    GE is a total dud from start to finish. Utter dross.

    Care to back up this statement with actual arguments?


    1. Probably the worst soundtrack of any Bond.
    2. Brossa's first appearance on screen is in a bog.
    3. Appalling lack of realism in the pts. The flying Bond scene and catching up with an unmanned plane probably defies physics and rivals the DUD parasurfing CGI for awfulness.
    4. The tie straightening 'trademark' makes Bond look like a dodgy door to door salesman.
    5. The script is awful - 'mysoginist dynosaur' anyone?
    6. Poor continuity - compare the dam scene opening shot with the snowbound Soviet base at the end of the pts - it looks like a different location entirely.
    7. The car. Bond would never, ever drive a hairdresser's car like a z3.
    8. Brosnan - he groans, grimaces and grunts his way through the movie. Why does he always sound like he's constipated?
    9. Machineguns - this movie introduces Bond's depenence upon automatic weapons. Witness the scene in the Russian archive/office.
    10. Alan Cummings - should have been strangled at birth.

    I can go on for a lot longer if required.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 11,189
    Getafix wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    GE is a total dud from start to finish. Utter dross.

    Care to back up this statement with actual arguments?


    1. Probably the worst soundtrack of any Bond.
    2. Brossa's first appearance on screen is in a bog.
    3. Appalling lack of realism in the pts. The flying Bond scene and catching up with an unmanned plane probably defies physics and rivals the DUD parasurfing CGI for awfulness.
    4. The tie straightening 'trademark' makes Bond look like a dodgy door to door salesman.
    5. The script is awful - 'mysoginist dynosaur' anyone?
    6. Poor continuity - compare the dam scene opening shot with the snowbound Soviet base at the end of the pts - it looks like a different location entirely.
    7. The car. Bond would never, ever drive a hairdresser's car like a z3.
    8. Brosnan - he groans, grimaces and grunts his way through the movie. Why does he always sound like he's constipated?
    9. Machineguns - this movie introduces Bond's depenence upon automatic weapons. Witness the scene in the Russian archive/office.
    10. Alan Cummings - should have been strangled at birth.

    I can go on for a lot longer if required.

    1. I like the soundtrack - gives the film character and suits the soviet backdrop.
    2. I like the opening.
    3. Who the hell cares. It's cheesey but its no where near the awful windsurfing scene in DAD.
    4. I find that a funny touch a la Roger's raised eyebrow
    5. That's a good scene, Bond IS a dinosaur. Many people thought that at the time.
    6. True but again who cares. Continuety hasn't been a strong factor in the Bond universe. (DAF??)
    7. It's a cool car - similar to Daniel Craig's Ford in CR.
    8. It's not that bad. He has to sell the scene doesn't he?
    9. Machine guns were all the craze at the time (True Lies?). The archive scene is an exciting, well directed sequence.
    10. It's Alan CumminG and that just sounds homophobic.

    Please don't go on for longer. We get your point.
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    GE is a total dud from start to finish. Utter dross.

    Care to back up this statement with actual arguments?


    1. Probably the worst soundtrack of any Bond.
    2. Brossa's first appearance on screen is in a bog.
    3. Appalling lack of realism in the pts. The flying Bond scene and catching up with an unmanned plane probably defies physics and rivals the DUD parasurfing CGI for awfulness.
    4. The tie straightening 'trademark' makes Bond look like a dodgy door to door salesman.
    5. The script is awful - 'mysoginist dynosaur' anyone?
    6. Poor continuity - compare the dam scene opening shot with the snowbound Soviet base at the end of the pts - it looks like a different location entirely.
    7. The car. Bond would never, ever drive a hairdresser's car like a z3.
    8. Brosnan - he groans, grimaces and grunts his way through the movie. Why does he always sound like he's constipated?
    9. Machineguns - this movie introduces Bond's depenence upon automatic weapons. Witness the scene in the Russian archive/office.
    10. Alan Cummings - should have been strangled at birth.

    I can go on for a lot longer if required.

    1. I like the soundtrack - gives the film character and suits the soviet backdrop.
    2. I like the opening.
    3. Who the hell cares. It's cheesey but its no where near the awful windsurfing scene in DAD.
    4. I find that a funny touch a la Roger's raised eyebrow
    5. That's a good scene, Bond IS a dinosaur. Many people thought that at the time.
    6. True but again who cares. Continuety hasn't been a strong factor in the Bond universe. (DAF??)
    7. It's a cool car - similar to Daniel Craig's Ford in CR.
    8. It's not that bad. He has to sell the scene doesn't he?
    9. Machine guns were all the craze at the time (True Lies?). The archive scene is an exciting, well directed sequence.
    10. It's Alan CumminG and that just sounds homophobic.

    Please don't go on for longer. We get your point.

    U like the soundtrack? Now I've heard it all.
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    I've GOT the soundtrack.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    The GE soundtrack is one of the best soundtrack in the franchise, rivalizing John Barry's greatness. It's a wonderful score, and Serra is one of the best composers out there. It's a shame he wasn't asked back for TND... a shame EON replaced him with a much inferior composer (Arnold...)...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited December 2011 Posts: 24,159
    Getafix wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    GE is a total dud from start to finish. Utter dross.

    Care to back up this statement with actual arguments?

    Getafix wrote:
    1. Probably the worst soundtrack of any Bond.

    Eric Serra may have brought a different touch to the Bond music, but the score fits the metallic thriller mood of the film. Arnold's orchestras could never have boosted the frightening moments in the film, such as the exploding train and the GE satellite re-orbiting, the way Serra did. It's not the best score in the series and it's a long step down from Barry, but I think the score certainly works in this film. It's adequate.
    Getafix wrote:
    2. Brossa's first appearance on screen is in a bog.

    You understand that's only a matter of taste, not fact. I'd say Brosnan left quite an impression in his first outing. He was the right Bond for '95.
    Getafix wrote:
    3. Appalling lack of realism in the pts. The flying Bond scene and catching up with an unmanned plane probably defies physics and rivals the DUD parasurfing CGI for awfulness.

    One little moment in an otherwise great PTS. Yes, it wasn't very realistic but anyone seeking reality has no business seeing a Bond film.
    Getafix wrote:
    4. The tie straightening 'trademark' makes Bond look like a dodgy door to door salesman.

    Again: taste. I quite like it. Does that make me an idiot or someone with bad taste?
    Getafix wrote:
    5. The script is awful - 'mysoginist dynosaur' anyone?

    What of it? I hold this very dialogue as one of the best scripted ones in the entire franchise.
    Getafix wrote:
    6. Poor continuity - compare the dam scene opening shot with the snowbound Soviet base at the end of the pts - it looks like a different location entirely.

    Maybe you're reading too much into it. Go with the action.
    Getafix wrote:
    7. The car. Bond would never, ever drive a hairdresser's car like a z3.

    Technically he didn't safe for one single moment near the third act. Also, again you're pouring taste into this. Many people had no problems accepting Bond in a z3.
    Getafix wrote:
    8. Brosnan - he groans, grimaces and grunts his way through the movie. Why does he always sound like he's constipated?

    Oh come on. Now you're looking for something to throw in the man's face. Moore and the eye brow. Sean and his 'sh' sounds ... Sigh!
    Getafix wrote:
    9. Machineguns - this movie introduces Bond's depenence upon automatic weapons. Witness the scene in the Russian archive/office.

    Yes, because a British spy would never touch an automatic if that'll get him out of the prison and a certain death...

    This scene rocks IMO. Bond maws down half the Russians in the prison and the bullets splash around with deafening noise. Great stuff.
    Getafix wrote:
    10. Alan Cummings - should have been strangled at birth.

    Taste taste taste... And I wouldn't phrase things that way if I were you.
    Getafix wrote:
    I can go on for a lot longer if required.

    Throwing more 'taste' into the discussion? In the end we're fighting taste with taste. Silly contest.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 11,425
    Seems this forum is a refuge for that disappearing breed - the Brossa fan. Wish the moderator/ Dr. Evil would kick me out.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 11,189
    Getafix wrote:
    Seems this forum is a refuge for that disappearing breed - the Brossa fan. Wish moderator/ Dr. Evil would kick me out.

    If that's your attitude then don't let the door hit you on the way out. Am I not allowed to like the Bond I grew up with at least a bit?

    Also you'll actually find there are lots of people who don't like Brozza here.
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Seems this forum is a refuge for that disappearing breed - the Brossa fan. Wish moderator/ Dr. Evil would kick me out.

    If that's your attitude then don't let the door hit you on the way out. Am I not allowed to like the Bond I grew up with at least a bit?

    Also you'll actually find there are lots of people who don't like Brozza here.

    I know and I appreciate its hard to take criticism of your first Bond. For many years I felt like a lunatic for daring to defend Dalton. I will try and lay off him for a bit.
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    Getafix wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Seems this forum is a refuge for that disappearing breed - the Brossa fan. Wish moderator/ Dr. Evil would kick me out.

    If that's your attitude then don't let the door hit you on the way out. Am I not allowed to like the Bond I grew up with at least a bit?

    Also you'll actually find there are lots of people who don't like Brozza here.

    I know and I appreciate its hard to take criticism of your first Bond. For many years I felt like a lunatic for daring to defend Dalton. I will try and lay off him for a bit.

    I am pretty much in your camp. Brozzer is bottom of the list because I was weaned on Sean, Rog and Tim. But sometimes you have to respect that he has got his fans,

    Try to think of good stuff about the Brosnan era. Thats what I try to do...

  • edited December 2011 Posts: 11,425
    actonsteve wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Seems this forum is a refuge for that disappearing breed - the Brossa fan. Wish moderator/ Dr. Evil would kick me out.

    If that's your attitude then don't let the door hit you on the way out. Am I not allowed to like the Bond I grew up with at least a bit?

    Also you'll actually find there are lots of people who don't like Brozza here.

    I know and I appreciate its hard to take criticism of your first Bond. For many years I felt like a lunatic for daring to defend Dalton. I will try and lay off him for a bit.

    I am pretty much in your camp. Brozzer is bottom of the list because I was weaned on Sean, Rog and Tim. But sometimes you have to respect that he has got his fans,

    Try to think of good stuff about the Brosnan era. Thats what I try to do...

    they killed teri hatcher off in the first act of tnd?

    and to think eon wanted monica bellucci... i guess u could say brossa was a bit unlucky.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Seems this forum is a refuge for that disappearing breed - the Brossa fan. Wish moderator/ Dr. Evil would kick me out.

    If that's your attitude then let the door hit you on the way out. Am I not allowed to like the Bond I grew up with at least a bit?

    Also you'll actually find there are lots of people who don't like Brozza here.

    Maybe that's what you should have said.

    I'm not gonna try and defend Brosnan. Well, except:
    Getafix wrote:
    1. Probably the worst soundtrack of any Bond.
    2. Brossa's first appearance on screen is in a bog.
    3. Appalling lack of realism in the pts. The flying Bond scene and catching up with an unmanned plane probably defies physics and rivals the DUD parasurfing CGI for awfulness.
    4. The tie straightening 'trademark' makes Bond look like a dodgy door to door salesman.
    5. The script is awful - 'mysoginist dynosaur' anyone?
    6. Poor continuity - compare the dam scene opening shot with the snowbound Soviet base at the end of the pts - it looks like a different location entirely.
    7. The car. Bond would never, ever drive a hairdresser's car like a z3.
    8. Brosnan - he groans, grimaces and grunts his way through the movie. Why does he always sound like he's constipated?
    9. Machineguns - this movie introduces Bond's depenence upon automatic weapons. Witness the scene in the Russian archive/office.
    10. Alan Cummings - should have been strangled at birth.

    1. I didn't care too much for the soundtrack, but I do admit that it fit the style and tone of the movie. GoldenEye established Brosnan as the Dalton-Moore: His movies attempt to keep the tone of Dalton's films while adding some of the style of Moore's.
    2. Oh, for God's sake, the man was Remington Steele for years before playing Bond, cut him a little slack.
    3. As was said before, if you want absolute realism, don't watch Bond movies. Even Craig, who's attempting to be the most realistic Bond in the franchise, admits and accepts the uber-reality.
    4. Hey, that adds a moment of humor to an otherwise droll scene (as fun as the tank chase is the first time, every time after that, it loses its charm, aside from the tie).
    5. Right, because the man's been trading STDs with billions of women for the past 30 years (at the time), clearly that line didn't make sense, right?
    7. I'll follow the 2010 Wii game: the dam and the airfield are a few miles apart, connected by the facility. And name a movie with no continuity errors.
    8. Oh, yep... no man grunts and groans as he physically exerts himself.
    9. Hmmm... my choices of taking on 200 heavily armed troops are a machine gun and a toothpick... TOOTHPICK, YEAH!
    10. To quote the man himself: I AM INVINCIBLE! and so was his screen presence in not only GoldenEye, but also X2: X-Men United.
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    1. watch the opening car chase and cringe at the worst music ever in a bond movie

    2. what so he's a TV actor so cut him some slack? same goes for Rog but at least he had class.

    3. I dont seek realism in Bond. Quite the opposite. But it is a long and proud tradition of the series that stunts are real and not Harry Potter nonsense.

    4. no it doesnt

    5. of course he's a dinosaur. thats why we love him. dont need M to S.P.E.L.L. it out for us.

    7. reference to computer games disqualifies u from the next level.

    8. definitely not Bond. that is the whole point. he makes things look effortless and kills with panache.

    9. And if previous Bonds had been as eager to reach for the machineguns as Brossa we'd have had some very boring movies. Watch the rooftop chase in Yokohama harbour in YOLT to see how a real man takes on a gang of goons.

    10. Cummings was an embarassment in GE. Smug and utterly cringeworthy performance. And no its not because hes gay. its because he is awful.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Getafix wrote:
    1. watch the opening car chase and cringe at the worst music ever in a bond movie

    2. what so he's a TV actor so cut him some slack? same goes for Rog but at least he had class.

    3. I dont seek realism in Bond. Quite the opposite. But it is a long and proud tradition of the series that stunts are real and not Harry Potter nonsense.

    4. no it doesnt

    5. of course he's a dinosaur. thats why we love him. dont need M to S.P.E.L.L. it out for us.

    7. reference to computer games disqualifies u from the next level.

    8. definitely not Bond. that is the whole point. he makes things look effortless and kills with panache.

    9. And if previous Bonds had been as eager to reach for the machineguns as Brossa we'd have had some very boring movies. Watch the rooftop chase in Yokohama harbour in YOLT to see how a real man takes on a gang of goons.

    10. Cummings was an embarassment in GE. Smug and utterly cringeworthy performance. And no its not because hes gay. its because he is awful.

    1. You've got me on the car chase. I hated that music.
    2. What I meant by that was: He's used to playing a certain kind of character.
    3. Yes, but CGI is cheaper than real stunts, and real people don't have any chance of dying in a CG stunt.
    4. Y'know, I can barely watch that tank chase anymore, especially after having seen the movie a half a billion times. That tie is most welcome.
    5. Actually, if you're a new fan to the series, yes, that scene is helpful.
    7. It's all we've got for now, unless somebody on these boards flies out to Arkangelesk and checks to see if any of it really exists.
    8. Clearly the toothpick was your choice. I hope you find yourself outnumbered and outgunned one of these days, then you'll be wishing you picked the machine gun.
    9. He also happens to get caught right then and there. Maybe if he had a machine gun, he wouldn't have.
    10. He's gay?! I had no idea.
    11. I now realize I completely skipped the real number 7 of your original post and replaced it with number 6, so I was kind of one off. Here's my opinion about the car: The movie would have been no different without it. It appears for less than five minutes, and those five minutes could have been put to better use.
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    Seeing that this has become a hit for this thread as of now, here are Six Points that make GoldenEye my #1 favorite:

    (1) Pierce Brosnan's debut as 007- from the hilarious bathroom scene at the beginning to the brutal duel with 006 at the end, Brosnan fired up the screen and showed us that Bond CAN and WILL go on, even after the 6 year gap where some thought it was all over. He shows Bond's emotional side at the "death" of his friend Alec, and then combats that with an agent's efficiency which says that you've got to move on and finish the mission. It's GE that shows us a little more about Bond the man, not the agent.

    (2) Setting up backgrounds- something that GoldenEye does quite well. We learn of Bond and Trevelyan's past, how they were friends once, how Trevelyan became a 00 agent, why he hates England, and all of that which leads up to the movie's climax with 007 vs. 006 to the death. It's this build-up which gives the climax such a powerful force, similiar to the build-up right before Bond fights Red Grant in FRWL. Also, there are backgrounds behind how Bond knows Zukovsky and even ten to twenty minutes or so of the movie which shows us how Natalya is involved in the mission. With these background settings established, the characters appear like they have known one another for a while, not just in a fantasy setting.

    (3) The Villains- every Bond movie has unique villains, and GoldenEye is no exception. You've got the former 00 agent who builds a criminal empire and is ready to have his revenge on his former government, Alec Trevelyan. You've got a former Soviet fighter pilot who has unusual habits of eliminating targets, Xenia Onatopp. Then there is the man on the inside, General Ourumov, who uses his position in the Russian military to assist Trevelyan in his plan, a man who has a dangerous past with 007. Finally, there is Boris Grishenko, a comical character, but nontheless a danger in a different way, programming the satellite which will carry out Trevelyan's master plan. There's only four of them, but they go together in such a way that they sort of run the movie!

    (4) Action- Bond movies can't just stand alone on spying and conversation. They've got to have action, and action such that will keep us engaged the whole way through. The pre-title sequence is longer than most because it needs to combine both backstory and action, a blend which GE really does well with. There's an excellent shoot-out, a brief motorcycle chase, and a free-fall to catch a plane. Whether the last one is realistic or not is out of the question. It's Bond. It doesn't need to be! There's an energetic, thrill-charged gun fight in the Russian archives, one of my favorite scenes in all of Bond history. It's loud, exciting, dangerous, and very, very Bond-ish. As a follow-up, we've got a tank chase that is bigger and better than any vehicle sequence in any other Bond movie. Finally, there is a climax that screams BOND louder than any other. There are gun fights, fist fights, and plenty of explosions! Oh yes, that's what I call BOND!

    (5) Music- The score really sets the tone for the rest of the movie. No scene is complete without the eerie background music which Serra sets up exceptionally well. My favorite music moments are the pre-title sequence, the tank chase, the escape from Trevlyan's train, and any little bit from the climax, especially 007 vs. 006 at the base of the satellite antenna.

    (6) Dialogue- Any big GE fan out there can agree with me on this: you can quote GE's dialogue all day long! The meeting between Trevlyan and Bond in the Memorial, the confrontation on the train, M's breifing, Xenia and Bond at the casino, and the interrogation in the Archives are all memorable and quoteable. It carries the movie from start to finish, making GE addicting to watch.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @00Beast: this may be the best written post of the week! Well done, sir. You put up such a great case for my favourite Bond film, I'd make you a priest if goldeneyism were a religion. ;-)
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    @00Beast: this may be the best written post of the week! Well done, sir. You put up such a great case for my favourite Bond film, I'd make you a priest if goldeneyism were a religion. ;-)

    Thanks Dimi! I was reading some of the other posts that were ripping GE, and I knew it had to stop!
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    goldeneyism

    Now... I'm a registered Jedi, and making a religion based on a movie is just... too far. ;)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,159
    DarthDimi wrote:
    goldeneyism

    Now... I'm a registered Jedi, and making a religion based on a movie is just... too far. ;)

    Never underestimate the power of the golden eye! In fact... I find your lack of faith - disturbing.

    935580-darth_vader_super.jpg
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    GoldenEye is Brosnan's best film for sure...but I actually like Tomorrow Never Dies too...
    Alright, time to run away!
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    @SJK91: No need to run! I myself love Tomorrow Never Dies, and think that it is Brosnan's second best outing.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Yes I love GE, TND and DAD... but I despise TWINE... (*)
  • I would argue that TND is everything that TWINE isn't, and (vice versa). The same could be compared with GE and DAD.

  • I have a Bond movie on right now as it happens on a 5" black and white TV, probably the best way to see it too, fun teaser but the theme intro is on now, so off goes the freakin' sound X(

    Tomorrow Never Dies for me is the poorest of Brosnans four films, great PTS, fine Crow theme but that's about it, once Brosnan leaves Hamburg the film turns into a narcoleptic's dream and I have a hard time staying with it from there on, still wonder sometimes why The World Is Not Enough isn't higher on genuine fans lists each time, it's easily for me the best of Brosnans work
  • I understand Brosnan has his share of fans but gentlemen please meet me halfway. You can't possibly believe Eric Serra's abomination of a score is any good in a Bond movie. Bond scores are supposed to be lush, exotic, and exciting not boring, droll, and repetitive. David Arnold gets alot of hate but atleast he understands the sound of Bond. And the worst part about it was that Serra was all arrogant about it, saying in an interview that he didn't wanna use the Bond theme or incorporate a Barry-like theme because he didn't think much of them. John Barry is an Academy Award winning composer and is widly considered one of the best cinematic composers to ever live. Eric Serra is... well not.
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    00Beast wrote:
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    Thanks Dimi! I was reading some of the other posts that were ripping GE, and I knew it had to stop!

    Tut. Tut. No film of the franchise should be above criticism. No film should be a sacred cow. Even the mighty Goldfnger, untouchable for so long, has its share of critics.

    Which is the way it should be. If you love your film then you must recognise it has problems as well as strengths. Argue your case - but it is never immune,

  • Serra's 'experience of love' or whatever it was called for the end closing of Goldeneye is truly cringeworthy, I won't apologize for it, how others feel is up to them but from this end I just turn off the film the moment the choppers lift off at the end

    I feel similar, albeit to a lesser extent with KD Lang's Surrender of the next release two years later although that was Arnold's work, I don't feel they should have different tunes for start and finish of Bond, this first came to the fore in The Living Daylights on a proper level, although I didn't mind too much either the A-HA or Pretenders efforts

    Thank heavens for saved drafts :-L
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 11,189
    I understand Brosnan has his share of fans but gentlemen please meet me halfway. You can't possibly believe Eric Serra's abomination of a score is any good in a Bond movie. Bond scores are supposed to be lush, exotic, and exciting not boring, droll, and repetitive. David Arnold gets alot of hate but atleast he understands the sound of Bond. And the worst part about it was that Serra was all arrogant about it, saying in an interview that he didn't wanna use the Bond theme or incorporate a Barry-like theme because he didn't think much of them. John Barry is an Academy Award winning composer and is widly considered one of the best cinematic composers to ever live. Eric Serra is... well not.

    For my birthday recently I got the GE soundtrack as a present and proudly listen to it in my car. There's a couple of tracks I'm not that keen on (namely "Run, Shoot and Jump and "The Experience of Love") but overall I truely think it suits the film. Most of all IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. For example "whispering statues" fits the errie, dark, tragic tone of the scene its attached to perfectly:



    True it's repetitive at times but its effective - at least to me.

    ...and I couldn't give a damn what Serra himself said ;)
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    goldeneyism

    Now... I'm a registered Jedi, and making a religion based on a movie is just... too far. ;)

    Never underestimate the power of the golden eye! In fact... I find your lack of faith - disturbing.

    935580-darth_vader_super.jpg

    Even the mighty Lord Vader could not do to me what several people believe should be done to me.

    BTW: Is that from The Force Unleashed?
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