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The Great Bond Geoguesser Game

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  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Good job, @CharmianBond! However, there is a reason for choosing the St George Street location of Sotheby's, and it's not just in order to be sneaky and hide what it is. Care to think about that part as well?

    Either way, you're next.

    Ah it's the entrance specified on the invite. Apologies, it was a good curveball. I just read the sign on the flag so you had me scrambling around street view 😂

    Okay, I'll be back with another round shortly.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    edited November 2022 Posts: 557
    I'm going to try something different, so this is a location not from Fleming and instead it's from a non-Fleming novel but it's famous enough on it's own that I'm sure you intelligent people will be able to suss it out.

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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I must admit I'm not a specialist for the continuation novels...I've read a few, but not nearly all. And I also forgot about most of those in the meantime. But hey, life's full of challenges...
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    Actually I probably shouldn't say continuation novel. It's a continuation only in the sense that it's a post-Fleming Bond book, there we go that narrows it down.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2022 Posts: 7,554
    My mind immediately goes to Solo and Carte Blanche (when you say post-Bond but not continuation, I think set in modern times)... I feel like Bond was buried alive in one of these books... I've read them both but so long ago lol
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    My mind immediately goes to Solo and Carte Blanche (when you say post-Bond but not continuation, I think set in modern times)... I feel like Bond was buried alive in one of these books... I've read them both but so long ago lol

    That would be Trigger Mortis, my favourite continuation novel out of the two I've read so far. There is a link between that novel and this location I'll say that much.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited November 2022 Posts: 9,044
    I guess I have to recuse myself. I've read Colonel Sun (the only one I have a faint recollection of), one by Gardner, one by Benson and - as the most recent one - several years ago that book by Sebastian Faulks. That's about it, AFAIR. I'd probably re-read all the Fleming books once more before I get to these or the missing post-Fleming novels again. I simply don't know or remember what they're about, besides having a main character named James Bond. Also shows how I rate them as compared to the Fleming originals.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    New day, new clue: Watch the shadows.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    All I can think of is the recycling plant in, i think, carte blanche, or devil may care. Anyway, the one with the South African baddie.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    All I can think of is the recycling plant in, i think, carte blanche, or devil may care. Anyway, the one with the South African baddie.

    Thanks for the guess but I'm afraid not. Again, apologies for the miscommunication, it's not from a continuation novel but it and its purpose is referenced in the one I mentioned. But this is the first time a main character goes to this location.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I have to say I'm still pretty confused. :)) Is it in a Fleming Bond novel?
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I have to say I'm still pretty confused. :)) Is it in a Fleming Bond novel?

    It's not from a Fleming Bond novel
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2022 Posts: 7,554
    Ok, it's not from Fleming, and it's not from a Continuation novel, but it's purpose is referenced in Trigger Mortis? And this is the first time a main character goes to this location? Doesn't that make it from a continuation novel?
    Just trying to compile all the info we have so far.

    EDIT: Is it the construction site northwest of Patterson, NJ? Owned by Blue Diamond.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    That sums it up. Bear in mind there are James Bond novels that aren't continuation novels.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2022 Posts: 7,554
    Can you provide an example of a non-Fleming, non-Continuation Bond novel?

    I always defined Continuation novel as any James Bond novel not written by Fleming (except for non-fiction reference books, etc).
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    edited November 2022 Posts: 557
    I was thinking of spin-offs, of which there are only four options: Carte Blanche, the Moneypenny Diaries, Young Bond and Double or Nothing.

    I see now how confused this can get, maybe we should stick to just Fleming 😅
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Fair enough! I didn’t consider spin-offs. I didn’t think Carte Blanche was a spin-off? Isn’t it just a Bond novel set in modern times, like Solo? Again, it’s been a good while since I’ve read them so I could be wrong.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Forever and Day isn't really technically a continuation either.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I assume you say that because FAAD comes before any of the other Bond stories, so it isn't "continuing" anything; the way I look at continuation novels is they're continuing the work of Ian Fleming (writing stories directly about James Bond), not necessarily continuing the story of James Bond, so I consider it to be a continuation novel.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    FAAD technically isn't because it's not a sequel but it is within the same continuity as the Fleming novels, whereas Carte Blanche is neither.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    CharmianBond wrote: »
    FAAD technically isn't because it's not a sequel but it is within the same continuity as the Fleming novels, whereas Carte Blanche is neither.

    This is way off topic of course, but I'm interested; what makes Carte Blanche not in the same continuity of the Fleming novels, but Solo is?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I assume you say that because FAAD comes before any of the other Bond stories, so it isn't "continuing" anything; the way I look at continuation novels is they're continuing the work of Ian Fleming (writing stories directly about James Bond), not necessarily continuing the story of James Bond, so I consider it to be a continuation novel.

    Yeah, I agree really. We've got to have a system! :)
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2022 Posts: 7,554
    For me it's a matter of keeping things simple. There are the Fleming Bonds, the Continuation Bonds, and the Spin-Offs (thanks for the reminder, Charmian).

    To me that's more elegant than saying, The Fleming Bonds, the Continuation Bonds, FAAD which is neither because it's not a continuation of any particular story, Carte Blanche because it's not in the same continuity of the Fleming Bonds, [insert any other exceptions that exist or will exist], and the Spin-Offs.

    The key difference between these two scenarios is the definition of Continuity; the latter defines continuity is strictly continuing the linear story of James Bond from Casino Royale to present, and the former (mine) just defines it as a continuation of the work of Ian Fleming.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    Yeah, I agree, I think your categorisation is ideal for our purposes. Sorry it's taken us a bit of a while to figure it out. But that's why I wanted to do this round, broach the topic early to iron these things out and hopefully make thing simpler going forward.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Smart, and thanks for the good round. I take it my New Jersey guess was wrong?
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Wow, I've really missed some action here today. But now it's 1:10 a.m., and I'll have to postpone joining the discussion until considerably later today.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Looking forward to your opinion on what specifically constitutes a continuation novel!
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Smart, and thanks for the good round. I take it my New Jersey guess was wrong?

    I'm afraid so, you're not even on the right continent.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Usually how I find myself.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    CharmianBond wrote: »
    New day, new clue: Watch the shadows.
    OK, getting back to this: It is early morning or early evening. Relatively long shadows. Fine, but not really pointing towards a geographical area. Even places near the equator have something like that shortly after the sun rises or before it sets. I'm still lost (apart from probably not knowing the novel, be it "continuation" or not).
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