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We did a worst screen couple and I put Rigg and Laz up for nomination and I got lambasted for it. Funny how some see chemistry and others don't.
Lets face it in a 2 hour movie or 2 1/2 hour movie we are going to have to "buy" the romance and relationship. The script needs to provide chances for the audience to see and buy the romance. SP suffered because there wasn't enough there to buy Bond and Swann falling in love. NTTD rectifies that somewhat. I didn't buy that this was the one great love of Bond. That's my reading. Therefore the ending lacks a certain punch to the gut. I feel nothing when he's chatting to her for the last time. I should feel something but I felt nothing.
When did they ever say that Bond and Madeleine spent five years together? Why would it take Madeleine this long to take Bond "home"?
Presumably, Madeleine is wondering if Bond is father material in that moment and if she should tell him.
I agree about Vesper, though. They should have dropped her storyline after QoS. I loved her in the role (and I know it's Flemingesque to bring her up) but 2021 (or 2020) is a *long* way from 2006. Poor Vesper drowned and then her tomb got blown up? A bit much.
I think the Laz and Rigg partnership isn't among the worst, but it is incredibly one-sided. We all fall in love with Rigg's Tracy during the film, so we almost automatically get sold on Lazenby's side when it isn't really that impressive.
On the Swann/Craig partnership, I feel that both do a good job of acting out the relationship and I don't find faults in their performances of the interpretation. Just don't think that the story meshes that well and doesn't feel Bondian somehow
The montage works for me as it requires the actors to project their feelings instead of stating them.
After Bond and Tracy and then Bond and Vesper, the hat trick just wasn't there.
It ought to a be a while, if ever, before Bond falls in love again.
I quite like the 'home' thing, as it's a little hint towards the nesting impulse of a pregnant lady. A bit early of course, but it's a movie :)
They do just feel like a believable couple in that opening sequence to me. Is she the most charismatic character in the world? No, but we've all had mates who fall in love with people and we can't quite understand why :D
They were very believable as a couple in love (a happy turn for me as I didn't buy the relationship in Spectre, no matter how hard the two actors tried).
Part of the reason for my love of this film is seeing this relationship "click". I thought the setting was beautiful, and the leads were a very likable couple.
'A bit much' sums up the whole NTTD/CraigBond finale for me. It was like they just thought of everything they hadn't done, and crammed it all in one movie. Like someone packing a suitcase and having to sit on it to zip it up.
I agree and I find Bond death truly dramatic and very moving. The audience I saw the film with also bought into the shock ending big time. You could hear a pin drop when Bond died. I think reusing All the Time In the World was 100 percent ent justified. It was a very emotional and poignant ending which made sense for Craig's Bond, his journey from the arrogant blunt instrument in CR and QOS and gradually evolving into a more rounded and troubled human being across SF, SP and NTTD.
Beautifully said @ColonelSun — as always 👍🏻!!
Brain rot on my part. NTTD takes part 5 years after SP, but the gap between SP and NTTD's PTS is unknown I think??
But we’ve got each other, 😂.
Wait…, it isn’t??
Another attempt at humour fails again. Shaking my head. I just plain old suck at even getting a sniff at a chuckle. But there’s always my Golden Retriever. No matter what I say, he’s always there, always looking like he’s smiling. A tremendous ego boost to a needy man-child such as myself. 😔.
I'm on the NTTD train as well. I think the film is marvelously paced and acted, cleverly written...and the ending is bold.
I'm sure the marketing execs or the studio made them put "James Bond Will Return" at the end so that the audience didn't leave on a totally bleak note. Otherwise, BB and MGW would have had to fend off years of questions about whether there will ever be another Bond film.
Now, by including just four little words of hope in the credits, BB and MGW can rest on their laurels, and carefully reconceptualize Bond post-Craig, free from the slings and arrows of fans...
Welcome to the cool kid’s table, @echo ! The three of us will do some serious damage around here!
Have you read From Russia, With Love? Did you hate the ending entirely?
As I did not read them sequentially, I knew Bond didn't die at the end of FRWL. Had I not known, I would have had my doubts based on how it ended. There's nothing about any Fleming novel or film I hate. I don't even hate the end of NTTD. It's just an ending that doesn't work for me.
Then I’m very sorry to inform you that we have rejected your application to our club. Please watch the film over and try again. You only get three chances to join. After that, you’re out in the cold and will never be invited to sit at the cool kids table.
And yes, I agree with you @DEKE_RIVERS . Very uncool to steal Bond’s car, especially since I heard he willed it to his housekeeper, May.
Her hope was she would auction it and retire.
But now she’s left with nothing, and will likely have to clean homes until she slips into The Big Sleep.
THIS is why Madeleine will never be comparable to Vesper or Tracy….
Hmm, well, these are our principles, and if you don’t like them… … well, we have others.
Principles? Principles? We don't need no stinkin' principles.