2023 Fleming novel covers

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 16,423
    It's an odd point of comparison, but on the flip side of the coin, Macallan's latest efforts with their limited edition Bond bottles feel deeply connected to Bond.

    It's not an odd comparison at all, IMO. For me it's the other way around really. I didn't feel a strong Bond vibe from those bottles and packaging, despite the imagery used. They do however look really nice.

    That's fair. To me, I look at the imagery used by each, and this video put out by Macallan, and the effort on display is night and day:



    Come to think of it, if IFP had released these books with matte covers featuring beautiful concept art like this, and had deckle edging, I'd be a hell of a lot more tempted to pick them up.

    For anyone familiar with this particular edition of The Hobbit:

    336895680_954006272602721_5238595929144369332_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gafY7CvLBVAAX_DzrbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr4-1.fna&oh=00_AfCuWr3hQMR9DHlNKZJEzaPxbwe97MpNVGuV1i_kXh-Mog&oe=641CEDB7

    Would have been perfect IMO.


    However, the Macallan's limited edition Bond bottles – much like the Bond Folio releases and that particular release of The Hobbit no doubt, are special releases made specifically for fans and collectors. These 2023 covers are paperback covers for books one might pick up on a whim at the airport for all we know. I think these covers have a more general commercial appeal (in lack of a better way to put it), than the imagery on those Macallan's bottles might have. Could more work have gone into the artwork? Sure? I would definitely have touched upon some details and changed some elements on several covers, adding some element of danger where needed. I'd be tempted to add "A James Bond novel" somewhere too. Overall though, I think these are alright.

    I think you probably don't need 'James Bond' on there because everyone knows 007, but I'd agree that there's room for improvement. The typography is fine, and I prefer it to the US version, but it's not quite fully beautiful. And I still think the No Time To Die logotype was one of the best bits of graphic design the Bond world has had in many years. I really liked how the typography was done on the Orion covers in fact- really nice. A hint more danger here and there- yeah I'd go for that too although I'm not sure it's essential on all.

    I'd forgotten about this 'There is only one Bond' run of covers. A bit boring and slightly naff.
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    If I had to make a total guess, I would say that they are not likely. I was thrilled (pun) when I found copies of them that matched my other full set of Bonds.

    Imagine so. Both books are part of this release of books though, so there won't be any trouble getting hold of a copy of them!
    mtm wrote: »
    It's an odd point of comparison, but on the flip side of the coin, Macallan's latest efforts with their limited edition Bond bottles feel deeply connected to Bond.

    It's not an odd comparison at all, IMO. For me it's the other way around really. I didn't feel a strong Bond vibe from those bottles and packaging, despite the imagery used. They do however look really nice.

    That's fair. To me, I look at the imagery used by each, and this video put out by Macallan, and the effort on display is night and day:



    Come to think of it, if IFP had released these books with matte covers featuring beautiful concept art like this, and had deckle edging, I'd be a hell of a lot more tempted to pick them up.

    For anyone familiar with this particular edition of The Hobbit:

    336895680_954006272602721_5238595929144369332_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gafY7CvLBVAAX_DzrbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr4-1.fna&oh=00_AfCuWr3hQMR9DHlNKZJEzaPxbwe97MpNVGuV1i_kXh-Mog&oe=641CEDB7

    Would have been perfect IMO.


    However, the Macallan's limited edition Bond bottles – much like the Bond Folio releases and that particular release of The Hobbit no doubt, are special releases made specifically for fans and collectors. These 2023 covers are paperback covers for books one might pick up on a whim at the airport for all we know. I think these covers have a more general commercial appeal (in lack of a better way to put it), than the imagery on those Macallan's bottles might have. Could more work have gone into the artwork? Sure? I would definitely have touched upon some details and changed some elements on several covers, adding some element of danger where needed. I'd be tempted to add "A James Bond novel" somewhere too. Overall though, I think these are alright.

    I think you probably don't need 'James Bond' on there because everyone knows 007, but I'd agree that there's room for improvement. The typography is fine, and I prefer it to the US version, but it's not quite fully beautiful. And I still think the No Time To Die logotype was one of the best bits of graphic design the Bond world has had in many years. I really liked how the typography was done on the Orion covers in fact- really nice. A hint more danger here and there- yeah I'd go for that too although I'm not sure it's essential on all.

    I'd forgotten about this 'There is only one Bond' run of covers. A bit boring and slightly naff.

    The primary reason for suggesting 'A James Bond novel', is that it's used on a lot of covers from other releases – like the continuation novels. And also just to leave no doubt about what series of books these are. But it might be a bit overkill, I admit.

    I really like those Orion covers. It's minimalism done right, and the typography is on point. The simple imagery on these covers made me think of these Norwegian releases from 1970. They are a bit strange in that they all feature the same imagery on the front, and there's no mentioning of Ian Fleming. Still quite nice, I think; I got one of them myself.

    303_1766490046.jpg

    Those 'There is only one Bond' however, are really not nice. The contrast is also an issue with some of the titles and the background…
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    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2023 Posts: 18,281
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    Thought I recognised the title. I have that one in paperback with a dragon's red claw on the front. No mention of Colonel Sun either, come to think of it. The Dreyer paperback edition does have the credit Robert Markham on the front cover though and at the top of the book's spine.
  • Posts: 12,474
    I think I’m going to take the plunge and go for the Folios. They are just so gorgeous and have been on my mind all day. It’ll have to be piecemeal given how expensive they are, like one per paycheck haha, but this looks well worth it. They’re beautiful and seem to be the best possible editions of these classic books that are reasonably feasible to get.
  • Posts: 2,161
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    It's decent covers, the Harper Collins' version are really mediocre, so these covers were still a bit better than the former, but it's still not saying much, these covers were just only a small inch better.

    These book covers were really I'm not a fan of, these covers made the Michael Gillette covers looked great in comparison (and that's saying something as I'm not also a fan of those covers too).

    My favorite Fleming Book Covers so far:

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    This one is one of my favorite Fleming Book Covers, it's a shame, this cover didn't continued for the other Bond books.


    I also liked these:
    fleming2.jpeg

    For some reason, I missed out on those Vintage Classic editions, which go for a tidy little sum these days. Understandable, as they are striking in a good way. I'm looking for more Bond in hardback as well. :-w

    I was thinking the same thing, they look great.
  • Posts: 12,474
    Casino Royale ordered. The hunt begins. Great opportunity to finally reread, too! Hoping these last a lifetime.
  • Posts: 17,759
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    The thing is, that this is the case on all the books in this release (to my knowledge), and not just Colonel Sun. My copy of LALD from the same set does not mention Ian Fleming on the cover.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    Thought I recognised the title. I have that one in paperback with a dragon's red claw on the front. No mention of Colonel Sun either, come to think of it. The Dreyer paperback edition does have the credit Robert Markham on the front cover though and at the top of the book's spine.

    That description sounds familiar. Is it this one?

    66drage1.jpg
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2023 Posts: 18,281
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    The thing is, that this is the case on all the books in this release (to my knowledge), and not just Colonel Sun. My copy of LALD from the same set does not mention Ian Fleming on the cover.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    Thought I recognised the title. I have that one in paperback with a dragon's red claw on the front. No mention of Colonel Sun either, come to think of it. The Dreyer paperback edition does have the credit Robert Markham on the front cover though and at the top of the book's spine.

    That description sounds familiar. Is it this one?

    66drage1.jpg

    Yes, that's the one, @Torgeirtrap! I like the addition of the Chinese text on the dragon's arm but I've unfortunately no idea what it says.

    I bought it last year from eBay. I collect foreign editions of some of the Bond novels, mostly my favourites and I have a few for Colonel Sun: French, German, this Norwegian edition and one from 1990 written in a Cyrillic language which may be Russian. Yes, I'm quite, quite mad. :)
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 1,078
    I think it's coming, but someone on the forums (@ColonelAdamski?) mentioned that it may not be exactly the Octopussy & TLD that we're used to if Folio is following along with UK first editions? Or something.

    The original UK 1st edition only had the two stories, and Property of a Lady was added afterwards, (with the publication pf the first paperback edition I think). If Folio go with the 1st edition text, then it'll be a slim volume with just two stories in. And it also means people (like me) with a complete collection of Folio editions will be missing a Bond story.
    And of course, there's 007 in New York as well, which featured in later editions of O&TLD.
  • Posts: 12,474
    I should hope that won’t be the case. It’d be deeply upsetting to collect all these expensive books and never have a truly “complete” collection. Perhaps I should wait a while before ordering more.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,423
    If I had to make a total guess, I would say that they are not likely. I was thrilled (pun) when I found copies of them that matched my other full set of Bonds.

    Imagine so. Both books are part of this release of books though, so there won't be any trouble getting hold of a copy of them!
    mtm wrote: »
    It's an odd point of comparison, but on the flip side of the coin, Macallan's latest efforts with their limited edition Bond bottles feel deeply connected to Bond.

    It's not an odd comparison at all, IMO. For me it's the other way around really. I didn't feel a strong Bond vibe from those bottles and packaging, despite the imagery used. They do however look really nice.

    That's fair. To me, I look at the imagery used by each, and this video put out by Macallan, and the effort on display is night and day:



    Come to think of it, if IFP had released these books with matte covers featuring beautiful concept art like this, and had deckle edging, I'd be a hell of a lot more tempted to pick them up.

    For anyone familiar with this particular edition of The Hobbit:

    336895680_954006272602721_5238595929144369332_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gafY7CvLBVAAX_DzrbE&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr4-1.fna&oh=00_AfCuWr3hQMR9DHlNKZJEzaPxbwe97MpNVGuV1i_kXh-Mog&oe=641CEDB7

    Would have been perfect IMO.


    However, the Macallan's limited edition Bond bottles – much like the Bond Folio releases and that particular release of The Hobbit no doubt, are special releases made specifically for fans and collectors. These 2023 covers are paperback covers for books one might pick up on a whim at the airport for all we know. I think these covers have a more general commercial appeal (in lack of a better way to put it), than the imagery on those Macallan's bottles might have. Could more work have gone into the artwork? Sure? I would definitely have touched upon some details and changed some elements on several covers, adding some element of danger where needed. I'd be tempted to add "A James Bond novel" somewhere too. Overall though, I think these are alright.

    I think you probably don't need 'James Bond' on there because everyone knows 007, but I'd agree that there's room for improvement. The typography is fine, and I prefer it to the US version, but it's not quite fully beautiful. And I still think the No Time To Die logotype was one of the best bits of graphic design the Bond world has had in many years. I really liked how the typography was done on the Orion covers in fact- really nice. A hint more danger here and there- yeah I'd go for that too although I'm not sure it's essential on all.

    I'd forgotten about this 'There is only one Bond' run of covers. A bit boring and slightly naff.

    The primary reason for suggesting 'A James Bond novel', is that it's used on a lot of covers from other releases – like the continuation novels. And also just to leave no doubt about what series of books these are. But it might be a bit overkill, I admit.

    I really like those Orion covers. It's minimalism done right, and the typography is on point. The simple imagery on these covers made me think of these Norwegian releases from 1970. They are a bit strange in that they all feature the same imagery on the front, and there's no mentioning of Ian Fleming. Still quite nice, I think; I got one of them myself.

    303_1766490046.jpg

    Those 'There is only one Bond' however, are really not nice. The contrast is also an issue with some of the titles and the background…

    That's very... of its time! :D Not sure I love it, almost feels more Avengers than Bond, but it's striking and amusingly retro.
  • Posts: 1,078
    I've mentioned this several times on the Folio edition thread but no-one's ever responded to it before. I should imagine there'll be someone at Folio that could put our minds at rest on this one.
    I'll put another post about it on that thread.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,553
    I've mentioned this several times on the Folio edition thread but no-one's ever responded to it before. I should imagine there'll be someone at Folio that could put our minds at rest on this one.
    I'll put another post about it on that thread.

    Would be great information to have!
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 17,759
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    The thing is, that this is the case on all the books in this release (to my knowledge), and not just Colonel Sun. My copy of LALD from the same set does not mention Ian Fleming on the cover.
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    No wonder there's no mention of Fleming : This one is Colonel Sun, which, as everybody knows, hasn't been written by Fleming.

    Thought I recognised the title. I have that one in paperback with a dragon's red claw on the front. No mention of Colonel Sun either, come to think of it. The Dreyer paperback edition does have the credit Robert Markham on the front cover though and at the top of the book's spine.

    That description sounds familiar. Is it this one?

    66drage1.jpg

    Yes, that's the one, @Torgeirtrap! I like the addition of the Chinese text on the dragon's arm but I've unfortunately no idea what it says.

    I bought it last year from eBay. I collect foreign editions of some of the Bond novels, mostly my favourites and I have a few for Colonel Sun: French, German, this Norwegian edition and one from 1990 written in a Cyrillic language which may be Russian. Yes, I'm quite, quite mad. :)

    @Dragonpol Can't help you there, unfortunately! It's a nice touch, for sure.

    That's an interesting collection. I've spent some time looking at vintage Bond books on Ebay throughout the week, and there are some nice foreign releases among the listings. I don't know a lot abut the Norwegian editions of Fleming books, as the majority of these were published decades before I was born. As for Dreyer and these paperback releases, this is the information I could find:
    Dreyers Forlag A/S or Dreyer for short, was a Norwegian publisher originally started as a printing company in Stavanger in 1847. They published a lot of essay writing apparently, but also Norwegian and translated fiction, such as Georges Simenon (and obviously, Ian Fleming). In the 90's they merged with Grøndahl & Søn Forlag A/S, becoming Grøndahl og Dreyers Forlag A/S, a subsidiary under Cappelens Forlag (Cappelen later merged with N.W. Damm & Søn, becoming Cappelen Damm).

    These editions of Bond books appear to be the most complete collection of Bond books released in Norway, with twelve books in total – in the following order:

    James Bond og Dr. No (Dr. No, probably 1966)
    Med hilsen fra Moskva (From Russia, with Love, probably 1966)
    Casino Royale (probably 1966)
    Å leve og la dø (Live and Let Die, probably 1966)
    Diamanter varer evig (Diamonds Are Forever, probably 1966)
    James Bond og Operasjon Tordensky (Thunderball, probably 1966)
    Goldfinger (1966)
    James Bond i Japan (You Only Live Twice, 1967)
    Måneraketten (Moonraker, 1967)
    I hemmelig oppdrag (On Her Majesty's Secret Service, 1966)
    James Bond og mannen med gullpistolen (The Man with the Golden Gun, 1967)
    James Bond på Drageøya (Colonel Sun, 1968)

    Most of these covers, possibly all of them, were designed by Danish-Norwegian designer Hans Jørgen Toming. At the end of the 60's, or at the start of 1970, the remaining copies were bought by Nasjonalforlaget, and released as the golden hardback books of which the Colonel Sun edition pictured above is from.

    Edit: according to one source, Hans Jørgen Toming also designed the golden hardback covers, but the source dates the year as 1968, which is wrong.
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    Really don't care for these outside of FRWL and Goldfinger for the simplicity and the rose has always been associated with FRWL. The others are too modern and busy.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 16,423
    Anthony Horowitz has received some of the new editions for his birthday



  • edited April 2023 Posts: 17,759
    Charlie Higson received some new editions too:

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,423
    That's fun. They're quite big.
  • edited April 2023 Posts: 17,759
    mtm wrote: »
    That's fun. They're quite big.

    Yes, I noticed that too. The dimensions are 198 x 129 mm, according to waterstones.com.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited April 2023 Posts: 18,281
    mtm wrote: »
    That's fun. They're quite big.

    Yes, I noticed that too. The dimensions are 198 x 129 mm, according to waterstones.com.

    It takes it all to hold that large 007 logo but I will say they don't actually look too bad now I've seen them as actual paperback covers. Sometimes it's hard to tell from a static image. Paperbacks do seem to have been getting bigger across the board since at least the 1980s if one considers how relatively compact the old '50s and '60s Pan paperbacks were by comparison.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,423
    I noticed the paperbacks in Australian shops seemed to be bigger than ours in the UK: maybe it's an international thing.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,281
    mtm wrote: »
    I noticed the paperbacks in Australian shops seemed to be bigger than ours in the UK: maybe it's an international thing.

    Yes, I noticed during the release of Anthony Horowitz's Forever and a Day (2018) there was a smaller paperback, a bigger kind of trade paperback and the hardback edition. I remember they all seemed to be released at the same time, something I've not noticed happening with with Horowitz's follow-up novel With a Mind to Kill (2022). I think the bigger trade edition is so-called as it's the edition they sell overseas in the colonies such as Australia, New Zealand and Canada.
  • Posts: 17,759
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    That's fun. They're quite big.

    Yes, I noticed that too. The dimensions are 198 x 129 mm, according to waterstones.com.

    It takes it all to hold that large 007 logo but I will say they don't actually look too bad now I've seen them as actual paperback covers. Sometimes it's hard to tell from a static image. Paperbacks do seem to have been getting bigger across the board since at least the 1980s if one considers how relatively compact the old '50s and '60s Pan paperbacks were by comparison.

    Seeing the product up close can make a huge difference, as static images often don't do book covers justice. It's not my favourite by far, but the gold colour and texture on the Goldfinger cover seems to have a nice shine to it, looking at Higson's Twitter video.

    Having a look at my paperback collection, I notice there's quite a variance in size. Many of my English and American paperbacks are on the smaller side – at least no bigger than the dimensions of these Bond paperbacks. Some of my Norwegian paperbacks however, are noticeably bigger. My Norwegian paperback copy of Ben Macintyre's The Spy and the Traitor: The Greatest Espionage Story of the Cold War is 220 x 150 mm, which is essentially the size of a hardcover book.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    I was wanting to get a really nice copy of my favourite novel Moonraker with a stellar cover, and the more I looked, the more I realized that I already own my favourite. Minimalist. Black for the space around the moon. Berkley 80's edition.
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