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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    I really wish this car chase had more kinetic energy besides two cars on abandoned roads in Rome. It is a shame as it has some beautiful stunt work.

    I have read this criticism a lot and I personally don't really understand it. Yes, the streets are empty, but besides that, it's a beautiful shot and exciting car chase in my book. Looks like I'm more or less alone in that, though. ;-)

    SP, by design or not, is a "quiet" film. We are often in desolate, empty places, with seemingly only a handful of people on the planet. Empty buildings, train cars, London streets, Rome, hotels, mountain clinics ... the world looks dead, "spectral", a bare skull. Somehow that befits the film. And since I gravitate towards such an introverted atmosphere, SP is one of the better Bonds for me. ;-)

    Nicely put! I'm also a fan of SP, and the car chase isn't that bad, particularly the second half of it! I still get far more out of it than I do SF!
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    I really wish this car chase had more kinetic energy besides two cars on abandoned roads in Rome. It is a shame as it has some beautiful stunt work.

    I have read this criticism a lot and I personally don't really understand it. Yes, the streets are empty, but besides that, it's a beautiful shot and exciting car chase in my book. Looks like I'm more or less alone in that, though. ;-)

    SP, by design or not, is a "quiet" film. We are often in desolate, empty places, with seemingly only a handful of people on the planet. Empty buildings, train cars, London streets, Rome, hotels, mountain clinics ... the world looks dead, "spectral", a bare skull. Somehow that befits the film. And since I gravitate towards such an introverted atmosphere, SP is one of the better Bonds for me. ;-)

    Nicely put! I'm also a fan of SP, and the car chase isn't that bad, particularly the second half of it! I still get far more out of it than I do SF!

    I wanted to voice my agreement too. When people moan about this chase, I just don't know what they're talking about.

    Spectre wasn't having brunch. It wasn't Saturday afternoon. I don't know what those streets should look like in the middle of the night, but it can't be that crowded.

    And going all the way through this series, very few films have car chases through very crowded streets (have you seen TSWLM?). The ones that do tend to be pretty low-speed (LALD) or edited in a way that annoys moaners anyway (QOS).

    As @DarthDimi points out, there's an aesthetic theme going on with Spectre, and an inexplicably crowded city centre wouldn't fit with it. It's not like the people who put eight million extras in the PTS somehow forgot to populate their movie: it's designed.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Mathis1 and @ProfJoeButcher, I'm glad you agree. The apparent desolation in SP, the deliberate selection of open spaces with barely anyone in them (see journey to Blofeld's lair, for example) feels like something they wanted for the film.
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    I think a lot of people have issues with how much it cost to stage that chase. I have to admit, I never think about budgets whenever I watch any movie, so long as it entertains me!
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Mathis1 and @ProfJoeButcher, I'm glad you agree. The apparent desolation in SP, the deliberate selection of open spaces with barely anyone in them (see journey to Blofeld's lair, for example) feels like something they wanted for the film.

    Yeah. I mean the film is full of ghost imagery. The title is a synonym for "ghost", it begins with the words "the dead are alive", it shows a day of the dead parade, we see a message from a dead M, newly found photos of dead people, Oberhauser back from the dead, Bond and Mr White as two "dead men walking", and we end in the ruins of MI6.

    All of the main characters are actively hiding. Bond is hiding from M, Madeleine from her father's world, Mr White from Spectre, and Spectre is hiding from everyone. We visit Bond's dark and desolate flat, Lucia's isolated home, Mr White's secluded cabin, a remote clinic, a secret base on the desert, a safe room, and a condemned building.

    The whole movie is thematically involved with ghosts from the past and people trying not to be found. Spectre looks exactly as it should.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Mathis1 and @ProfJoeButcher, I'm glad you agree. The apparent desolation in SP, the deliberate selection of open spaces with barely anyone in them (see journey to Blofeld's lair, for example) feels like something they wanted for the film.

    Yeah. I mean the film is full of ghost imagery. The title is a synonym for "ghost", it begins with the words "the dead are alive", it shows a day of the dead parade, we see a message from a dead M, newly found photos of dead people, Oberhauser back from the dead, Bond and Mr White as two "dead men walking", and we end in the ruins of MI6.

    All of the main characters are actively hiding. Bond is hiding from M, Madeleine from her father's world, Mr White from Spectre, and Spectre is hiding from everyone. We visit Bond's dark and desolate flat, Lucia's isolated home, Mr White's secluded cabin, a remote clinic, a secret base on the desert, a safe room, and a condemned building.

    The whole movie is thematically involved with ghosts from the past and people trying not to be found. Spectre looks exactly as it should.

    Voila! That's a perfect analysis, @ProfJoeButcher. I couldn't have said it better. The charm of the film, for me, is that Bond and Madeleine look like the loneliest people on the planet, both deprived of their parents (M included in Bond's case), yet find each other amidst all that.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Nice explanation. I just wish that Bloberhauser had successfully managed to remain hidden and continued to be no more than a ghost from the past, and spared us with that nonsensical foster brother story.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Nice explanation. I just wish that Bloberhauser had successfully managed to remain hidden and continued to be no more than a ghost from the past, and spared us with that nonsensical foster brother story.

    That I agree with too. The Blofeld plot was clumsily handled, though it doesn't ruin the movie for me. And if Blofeld had been hiding in the shadows -- why oh why didn't they just show us the back of a seated man's head? -- it would have been even more appropriate for the film.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    Well, I've come to love Blofeld. I'm pretty sure a guy with a Dracula voice who conspires with the camera to stay hidden from moviegoers would not really fly nowadays, and I guarantee there's no new conception of the character hardcore fans could really like now.

    Blofeld is obviously the perfect villain from Bond's meta past, and a wonderful counterexample for Craig's Bond. Bond has learned over the course of the previous three movies how to move on from his trauma and not be ruled by it, or obsessed with vengeance. Blofeld and C can only see a future based on destroying the past (the 00 section, Hannes Oberhauser, whatever), while Bond can hold the Vesper interrogation tape and not freak out, instead being snapped out of it by Madeleine, his promise of a better future.

    The dynamic between Bond and Blofeld is my favorite in the series. Blofeld is constantly trying to get into Bond's head, failing first figuratively, and then in a literal sense. He can't break Bond because Bond has "better things to do". Bond has found some peace (a quantum of solace, you might say!), and poor Oberhauser/Blofeld never found a way out, and probably doesn't understand how Bond can be so unaffected by his efforts. I think it's great.

    Sorry to be so pretentious, I just love this movie. :-D

  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Sorry to be so pretentious, I just love this movie. :-D

    Ohhh...so YOU'RE the one... :-)

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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Mathis1 and @ProfJoeButcher, I'm glad you agree. The apparent desolation in SP, the deliberate selection of open spaces with barely anyone in them (see journey to Blofeld's lair, for example) feels like something they wanted for the film.

    Yeah. I mean the film is full of ghost imagery. The title is a synonym for "ghost", it begins with the words "the dead are alive", it shows a day of the dead parade, we see a message from a dead M, newly found photos of dead people, Oberhauser back from the dead, Bond and Mr White as two "dead men walking", and we end in the ruins of MI6.

    All of the main characters are actively hiding. Bond is hiding from M, Madeleine from her father's world, Mr White from Spectre, and Spectre is hiding from everyone. We visit Bond's dark and desolate flat, Lucia's isolated home, Mr White's secluded cabin, a remote clinic, a secret base on the desert, a safe room, and a condemned building.

    The whole movie is thematically involved with ghosts from the past and people trying not to be found. Spectre looks exactly as it should.

    Voila! That's a perfect analysis, @ProfJoeButcher. I couldn't have said it better. The charm of the film, for me, is that Bond and Madeleine look like the loneliest people on the planet, both deprived of their parents (M included in Bond's case), yet find each other amidst all that.

    Love that analysis.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Univex wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Mathis1 and @ProfJoeButcher, I'm glad you agree. The apparent desolation in SP, the deliberate selection of open spaces with barely anyone in them (see journey to Blofeld's lair, for example) feels like something they wanted for the film.

    Yeah. I mean the film is full of ghost imagery. The title is a synonym for "ghost", it begins with the words "the dead are alive", it shows a day of the dead parade, we see a message from a dead M, newly found photos of dead people, Oberhauser back from the dead, Bond and Mr White as two "dead men walking", and we end in the ruins of MI6.

    All of the main characters are actively hiding. Bond is hiding from M, Madeleine from her father's world, Mr White from Spectre, and Spectre is hiding from everyone. We visit Bond's dark and desolate flat, Lucia's isolated home, Mr White's secluded cabin, a remote clinic, a secret base on the desert, a safe room, and a condemned building.

    The whole movie is thematically involved with ghosts from the past and people trying not to be found. Spectre looks exactly as it should.

    Voila! That's a perfect analysis, @ProfJoeButcher. I couldn't have said it better. The charm of the film, for me, is that Bond and Madeleine look like the loneliest people on the planet, both deprived of their parents (M included in Bond's case), yet find each other amidst all that.

    Love that analysis.

    I'm thankful that Spectre is getting some love in our community.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    A harpoon prop seen on one of Q's desks in a behind-the-scenes video. Several other items were made for the film but either didn't make it on screen or received no action. My mind wanders to an alternate ending, with Bond chasing Blofeld's helicopter in a new Q-Boat, the 'Scubacraft', with the optional harpoon mounted on one of the bows...

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    The Scubacraft - Spectre's Q-Boat:

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    The Scubacraft is a real world vessel and can dive, just like the Q-Boat from TWINE! 👍
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    That's very cool @QBranch
    Thanks for sharing those photos and info.

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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited December 2023 Posts: 7,214
    I studied abroad in Rome in 2014-15 and actually met the location manager of Spectre in a pub in the city centre where we went after a football game.

    Talked with the guy about Bond and film in general during the entire evening / night. One of the many fond memories I have from my time in Rome.

    The car chase they filmed a few weeks after I had left, but a friend sent me some footage she filmed. I regretfully lost that when I changed phones a few years later.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    And so, we come to the end of our behind the scenes look at Spectre.

    Tomorrow, it's the final film in the Daniel Craig era, and the latest film in the EON series of James Bond films.

    No Time To Die

  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    Great collection of pics!
    I showed up for Spectre, but I reckon it have to go all the way through this thread when it's done...
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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Time now for the fifth and final outing of Daniel Craig as James Bond. The twenty fifth film in the EON series, and the most recent entry.

    No Time To Die

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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited December 2023 Posts: 14,682
    Looking forward to listing all the missed opportunities for the other thread, as they appear here. #1 already spotted: Fukunaga not wearing socks with his shoes...Tut tut.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    With the DB5, the Lancia Thesis and a Maserati Quattroporte present in this pts, my petrolhead is certainly satisfied.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Looking forward to listing all the missed opportunities for the other thread, as they appear here. #1 already spotted: Fukunaga not wearing socks with his shoes...Tut tut.

    Just one of the many unique things about him.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Looking forward to listing all the missed opportunities for the other thread, as they appear here. #1 already spotted: Fukunaga not wearing socks with his shoes...Tut tut.

    Fukunaga = Blofeld confirmed 😅
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Looking forward to listing all the missed opportunities for the other thread, as they appear here. #1 already spotted: Fukunaga not wearing socks with his shoes...Tut tut.

    Just one of the many unique things about him.
    Unique, with stinky feet.

    Speaking of fish, here's some snapper:

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    Wow! Who's the hunky stuntman - or should I say, studman - that could give Dan a run for his money? He might be single - look out Rachel!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6980375/Daniel-Craig-cruises-Caribbean-sea-hunky-stunt-double-filming-Bond-25.html

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    There's been a break-in. Yeah, a heartbreak-in'.
    Mallory wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Looking forward to listing all the missed opportunities for the other thread, as they appear here. #1 already spotted: Fukunaga not wearing socks with his shoes...Tut tut.

    Fukunaga = Blofeld confirmed 😅
    Yes! It makes total sense!
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    I have photos of Mark Higgins and the Astons I took on film from my interview with him. They're not hosted online anywhere at the moment however so I will have to figure out how to share them. I wish we could upload to the forum.
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    I use https://www.imagevenue.com/ which is very straightforward.
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