Would you rather Bond return to his cultural knowledge OR Bond return to the one-liner?

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  • Posts: 1,990
    Misogynistic? That's how pre-2002 Bond is being described now? A woman hater who beds women?

    The legacy Bond films are more fun than the Craig films, but CR is a great film.
  • peter wrote: »
    All of them… a film from each of the men that played the role.

    The best answer!
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    Watching SPECTRE at the moment!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don’t see the divide between the choices; they’re all Bond films. I watched the first half of Goldfinger last night, magic.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don’t see the divide between the choices; they’re all Bond films. I watched the first half of Goldfinger last night, magic.

    I couldn't agree more. You should pop in the second half and watch it today. :)

    They're all Bond films. For me it simply depends on my mood for a particular film or actor. I do tend to the watch the pre Craig films more often, because there's so many to chose from, and nostalgia plays a big factor for me.

    Damn. Now I have a craving to watch GOLDFINGER.
    Popping it in now................................off to another thread.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I will indeed: had a long day yesterday and had to turn in before the end of the film.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    A legacy film.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    mtm wrote: »
    I will indeed: had a long day yesterday and had to turn in before the end of the film.
    QoS is the man for the job!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Legacy films - is that what we're calling the old films now? As if the Craig era did not leave some kind of legacy.

    I feel like a casino-themed film at the moment, so either DAF or CR. The usual fence-sitting, which sums up this burdened Libran's life in a nutshell.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Legacy - specifically Dr no as I can't find the dvd.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Legacy films - is that what we're calling the old films now? As if the Craig era did not leave some kind of legacy.

    I feel like a casino-themed film at the moment, so either DAF or CR. The usual fence-sitting, which sums up this burdened Libran's life in a nutshell.

    I wasn't sure how to describe the older films. Course Craig films have left a legacy too. But great choices to watch.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Celebrated with TMWTGG last night
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Dr. No and No Time To Die double feature. It was awesome.
  • I watched Dr. No, The Living Daylights and Casino Royale yesterday before capping all that off with some 007 - Nightfire on my old PlayStation 2. All three films were spectacular as usual and Nightfire is always a blast to revisit.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Misogynistic? That's how pre-2002 Bond is being described now? A woman hater who beds women?

    The legacy Bond films are more fun than the Craig films, but CR is a great film.

    Doesn't M call Bond misogynistic in GE? Or is that the Mandela Effect? Maybe I have it wrong.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    thedove wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Misogynistic? That's how pre-2002 Bond is being described now? A woman hater who beds women?

    The legacy Bond films are more fun than the Craig films, but CR is a great film.

    Doesn't M call Bond misogynistic in GE? Or is that the Mandela Effect? Maybe I have it wrong.

    She does say that, yes. She calls him a misogynistic dinosaur, a relic of the Cold War.

    You’re correct, @thedove
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    peter wrote: »
    All of them… a film from each of the men that played the role.

    The best answer!

    I like that answer too. Not that Bond day is something on my radar, but I think that’d be a nice way of honouring it.
  • 007HallY wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    All of them… a film from each of the men that played the role.

    The best answer!

    I like that answer too. Not that Bond day is something on my radar, but I think that’d be a nice way of honouring it.

    These last two years I celebrated it, haven’t really done so before however.

    If anything it’s just an excuse for me to watch a Bond film; although I never really need an excuse to do just that hahaha.
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Misogynistic? That's how pre-2002 Bond is being described now? A woman hater who beds women?

    The legacy Bond films are more fun than the Craig films, but CR is a great film.

    Both are misogynistic but the later is more grumpy!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Misogynistic? That's how pre-2002 Bond is being described now? A woman hater who beds women?

    The legacy Bond films are more fun than the Craig films, but CR is a great film.

    Both are misogynistic but the later is more grumpy!

    Although M calls him that, Bond as a character, has never been a misogynist. Look the meaning of the word up.
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    thedove wrote: »
    The film makers of LALD did a great job of getting the vibe on the screen. I had never thought of it as a stand in for Haiti. I always thought it was a stand in for Jamaica. I haven't visited either one.

    Isthmus was shown to be opulent but when Bond gets dragged to the country side you start to see the poverty or the run down aspects of the country.

    Neither have I, bit given that Mr Big in the novel is Haitian, that voodoo and Baron Samedi are Haitian, that Kananga is dressed like Duvalier, I always understood San Monique to be Haiti. In the end, I just prefer the vibe and atmosphere.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    As part of my Bond Day festivities I indulged and watched the Sound of Bond on Amazon. In honour of that special lets see which Dame Shirley theme song you'd rather listen to?

    Would you rather listen to Goldfinger OR Diamonds Are Forever?

    Goldfinger big, bold and brassy. Dame Shirley sings the hell out of it and you never once question it. Her confidence comes through the speaker. Needing to remove her bra to deliver the final notes. A tour-de-force!

    Diamonds Are Forever softer, sexier, and silkier. Dame Shirley has fun with the teasing lyrics and does a fine job polishing up (see what I did there?) the song. As the years pass it seems this song is looked on more favourably.

    Which one is likely to be coming through your speakers?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I love DAF. It's a richer listening experience.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I was lucky enough to hear her sing both at the 60th anniversary concert, I was surprised just how good and how much of an experience it was- better than I imagined.
  • Posts: 15,120
    I love both, but I'd say Goldfinger: my first Bond song, first "love" and, even though it's non sequitur, Goldfinger is the superior film. DAF has a far better team song than it deserves.

    That said, it really depends of my mood.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I like both, though the Goldfinger theme song is definitely more iconic. And I'm also among the ones who love Dame Shirley's Moonraker rendition as well.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    IIRC, Dame Shirley Bassey used to open her concerts with a melody of both "Goldfinger" and "Diamonds Are Forever." Poor "Moonraker" - but she has stated that she only did that theme as a favor to John Barry and has rarely (if ever) included it in any of her live sets.

    Back to the question at hand, while both are equally memorable and I love them both, in recent years I love DAF just a tad more.

  • Posts: 1,078
    Goldfinger is fabulous, but I'd rather listen to Diamonds.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    IIRC, Dame Shirley Bassey used to open her concerts with a melody of both "Goldfinger" and "Diamonds Are Forever." Poor "Moonraker" - but she has stated that she only did that theme as a favor to John Barry and has rarely (if ever) included it in any of her live sets.

    Back to the question at hand, while both are equally memorable and I love them both, in recent years I love DAF just a tad more.

    That was mentioned in the special. She claims to have never performed Moonraker live. There is a story there on all the people that the song was offered to. I have heard Kate Bush and Frank Sinatra. I don't understand why Frank was so reticent about recording a theme. I believe he was considered for YOLT but suggested Nancy instead. In 1979 he simply turned it down.
  • Posts: 1,990
    Goldfinger is not a casual listen. DAF plays that role. Goldfinger is an experience, best experienced in a huge movie theater that blows you back and pins you to your seat.
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