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Would you rather Bond return to his cultural knowledge OR Bond return to the one-liner?

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  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Love both but give me skyfall
  • MalloryMallory
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    I always found TSWLM a little overrated. I understand why so many love it and it does indeed have a great number of iconic Bond moments (the ski jump, Jaws, the Lotus submarine car, keeping the british end up etc) but for me its scale and bombast is also a bit of a negative for me. Its almost too over the top… especially Stromberg’s ultimate goal which is really silly, even by Bond villain standards. Not to say I dont like it or anything but its definitely a mid table Bond film for me.

    So on that basis I would go with Skyfall, to me it is a near perfect modern Bond film and on a good day can outrank Casino Royale.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    Skyfall
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,579
    On-location shooting and emergency pasta for the win.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,641
    Skyfall.
    It's one of my most watched films of the series
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 20 Posts: 3,789
    Mallory wrote: »
    I always found TSWLM a little overrated. I understand why so many love it and it does indeed have a great number of iconic Bond moments (the ski jump, Jaws, the Lotus submarine car, keeping the british end up etc) but for me its scale and bombast is also a bit of a negative for me. Its almost too over the top… especially Stromberg’s ultimate goal which is really silly, even by Bond villain standards. Not to say I dont like it or anything but its definitely a mid table Bond film for me.

    So on that basis I would go with Skyfall, to me it is a near perfect modern Bond film and on a good day can outrank Casino Royale.

    I agree, and the characters weren't even that great, with an exception of Jaws (whom I find cartoonish), they're not fleshed out, no danger present, I don't feel that Bond is in danger everytime I watch the film, and Moore's delivery of lines sometimes comes off as flat or not in the mood kind of thing, and the acting were wooden.

    Skyfall is a great Bond film, acting, the danger and tension are present, and great characters.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,148
    TSWLM
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    TSWLM
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited March 20 Posts: 3,152
    SF. Can I still edit out 'go on then, eject me' and 'got in some deep water', though?
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    @Venutius , I love SF, and didn’t mind the ejector seat line, but I quite hate the delivery of “got into some deep water”…!! Every time I watch, I have a cold feeling dripping down my spine… 😣
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,846
    Skyfall.

    While both films are still in my “top ten”, TSWLM has slipped a bit in recent years. Although I still enjoy the PTS and Roger’s performance, Barbara Bach’s “acting” – always a weak point IMO - has really started to grate on me during recent viewings (Sorry about that Mrs. Richard Starkey!).

    As for SF, I have very fond memories of the leadup to “Bond’s 50th anniversary”, and the film – IMO at-least – lived up to the hype. It was, for me, an excellent blend of the Danial Craig iteration of the character and pleasing callbacks to earlier films (without being too overt like DAD).
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    That one was an interesting choice. I think I lean towards SF but Spy is almost a guilty pleasure for me. Still I am watching SF if choosing.

    Okay on to our next battle of the third appearances as Bond.

    Would you rather watch GF or TWINE?

    The peak of Connery against Brosnan's third. This likely won't be as difficult a choice or will it? TWINE is an interesting film as the producers were clearly tweaking with the formula and we get a female baddie, we get Bond injured, though not much is made of this after the first act. We get some rather inventive action. A strong song from Garbage.

    On the other hand, we have a stylish film of it's time. Perhaps the most colourful and memorable villain of the series. An elegant game of golf. A henchman who while mute makes for an unforgettable part of the movie. Of course there is the car! Dame Shirley delivering an epic song.

    Which one is likely to be popped into the Blu-Ray?
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    GF. While I need to give it a rewatch at some point TWINE isn't my favourite Bond movie, needless to say!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,212
    TWINE, it's my favorite Brosnan film; He's at the top of his game. With a few tweaks, particularly the casting of Renard, it could have been a classic Bond.
  • MalloryMallory
    Posts: 2,165
    Goldfinger is iconic.

    TWINE is snooze inducing.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    GF.

    Its magic.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    GF. GF. And then GF. TWINE is a convoluted mess with very few redeeming qualities.

    BTW, @thedove, you haven't updated the thread title yet. I was all set to vote for Skyfall.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Lol, I initially read GE, as In Goldeneye ; I would choose TWINE over GE, but GF over TWINE. 😁
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    edited March 21 Posts: 7,426
    GF, no contest!
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,270
    GF, but having said that I can't really say I'm a fan of this battle. It's too one-sided given the reputation of both films. GE would have been the much better film to pit against GF.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Thanks for the call out @j_w_pepper I have fixed the title.

    Yes it is a bit of a mismatch, but I was merely comparing the third entries together. The next one we will compare the fourth films of each actor. Might be interesting as we will have YOLT, MR, DAD and SP! Yikes some un-loved films in that bunch.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,148
    GF vs TWINE… gee, that’s a tough one 🤔
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    Posts: 3,152
    I'm one of those 12 blokes that like TWINE a lot, but...GF, without any hesitation.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,212
    Venutius wrote: »
    I'm one of those 12 blokes that like TWINE a lot, but...GF, without any hesitation.

    I'm with you; it's no GF, but does not deserve the abuse it gets.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Well, let me be the odd one out, TWINE is more likely to go in the player here. Even though I love Gert Frobe, and OddJob is iconic, the film itself seems to drag and have this slow- tensionless movement to it. Dr. No, FRWL and TB all are far more interesting to watch. TWINE may not be the best film there is, but I find it an entertaining watch, with cherry-on-top the sexiest scientist ever to grace the Bond-films.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I also really, really love TWINE but I have to go with GF. It's Top 5 for me.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Okay and finally lets pit the fourth films of four actors!

    First up we shall pit You Only Live Twice against Spectre

    We have in one corner, Connery looking somewhat dreary and at times disinterested. But we have wonderful Ken Adams sets. We have ninjas, we have a haunting song by Nancy Sinatra and we have a freaking volcano liar!

    In the other corner we have Craig in fine form, Blofeld returning to the screen after an absence of over 30 years. We have a kick ass henchman and we have Bond falling in love.

    So which one is likely to be placed into the Blu-Ray player?

    Would you rather watch YOLT OR SP?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,126
    YOLT by some distance.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,470
    YOLT handily. Ironically, while SP was more connected to its previous few films than YOLT, it was YOLT that actually felt like it was organically built up to regarding SPECTRE and Blofeld. It's just a more entertaining film all around to me. I will say I think they are both some of Connery and Craig's weaker performances as Bond.
  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 1,860
    YOLT = Original Bond. SP = Imitation Bond. I'll take YOLT even though nothing in the film makes any sense.
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