Would you rather Craig's Mi6 crew return with a new Bond OR a new Mi6 crew for the next film?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited February 2 Posts: 16,922
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind the crew back, despite the evident complaints about lack of continuity that would come down like an avalanche.

    Yeah, I'm confident that they could find a new bunch of top actors as they managed it last time, but I do really like the old bunch so I'd be happy to see Whishaw as Q again, for example as he's great, and like yourself I'm happy to ignore continuity if it means we get something or someone great. But I think even ignoring the continuity thing, they'd probably just feel a bit wrong with a new Bond as they kind of grew as a team with Craig's Bond.

    To be honest, that’s exactly what I’m struggling with. On the one hand, it makes the most sense to keep the team firmly rooted in the Craig era, which is now over. On the other hand, we’ve invested time and backstory in Harris’s Moneypenny, Whishaw’s Q, and Fiennes’s M—it would be a shame to lose all of that.

    Yeah okay, that's a fair way to see it, can't argue with that.
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Or maybe I just hate the thought of losing them. Quite frankly, Harris, Whishaw, and Fiennes have many more years of great performances ahead of them. They could easily fill the shoes of Maxwell, Llewelyn, and even legends like Lee and Dench. We’re talking about seasoned, talented actors—one of whom could’ve been a Bond girl, and one of whom could’ve been Bond himself. I love the dynamic of this team; No Time to Die feels too soon to retire them.

    I don't disagree, I think they came up with a brilliant reworking of the MI6 crew which I'd probably put on an equal level with the originals. And when it comes to M, for me Dench is the best one we've had- Lee was great but she pips it. She might even be the most iconic M, because of her longevity and higher profile in her 007 movies: if you showed your average person on the street a photo of her sat behind a desk I think they'd know to call her M more than perhaps they would a photo of Lee. She's even doing a set of adverts in the UK at the moment based on her M persona.
    I think it's great that after so many years of the series they're still producing films and casting which are worthy enough of being considered the best so far.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    first off, I'd say (chirping in on the discussion between @mtm and @DarthDimi ) the films always had the 'saga' quality to them. Take the reference to Bond beeing married before (Timothy's Bond). Obviously that's Tracy, but if it had been Timothy's, r he'd 've been an agent at 23 already. And a seasoned one at that.
    SO any new film would sit between the films Craig made, just as much as all the films that came before. They're just Bond's stories re-told for the current time.

    In this way, it wouldn't be a problem to keep the current crew, which, like you guy, I really like.
    Hence, for me they can stay.

    For as much as Judi Dench returning as M, she now definately is too old.

    Naomi Harris as M could actually work, she's in her early fifties now.

    I'd really like to see Ben back as Q, I just like his incarnation which has just the right amount of nod to Desmond as well as beeing his own character.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @mtm
    I agree—Dame Judi is the best M we've had so far. This isn’t a criticism of Lee, of course, but when Judi took on the role, the screenwriters provided her with far richer material. As a result, her M feels like more than just the voice delivering Bond’s orders; she becomes a catalyst for his growth as a spy, especially in the Craig films.

    I particularly agree with your final point. Setting aside the notion of 'blasphemy'—often rooted in a reverence for the original Bond films, warranted or not—I have no trouble praising many of the elements in the Craig films as the finest in the series' long history.

    @CommanderRoss
    I absolutely agree about Wishaw. Out of the three, he's the one least tied to any particular Bond film (while Eve and Mallory are a part of SF's story). He could be back. I'm sure audiences wouldn't mind. He's just a bloody good Q, different enough, and yet similar enough, to Desmond--if that makes sense. And Ben Wishaw is a very good actor. I love his voice and articulation, along with his Q's sometimes dry, sometimes clumsy humor.
  • I also have to say that I’ve grown rather fond of the new MI6 regulars. In many ways they’re the spiritual successors to the originals and whomever plays those roles next have big shoes to fill.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Eon has it’s work cut out for it; as good as past actors have been, there is a wealth of talent, in all venues of acting, who are more than capable of taking on the same roles and making them their own.

    The Craig era was a self contained one; time to move forward.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,250
    I'd be happy to see Fiennes or Whishaw return, or one or the other.
    Having at least some link back to DN is something I'd like EON to continue.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited February 2 Posts: 16,922
    talos7 wrote: »
    Eon has it’s work cut out for it; as good as past actors have been, there is a wealth of talent, in all venues of acting, who are more than capable of taking on the same roles and making them their own.

    Yeah they did it last time so there's nothing to say they can't do it again, and they got a collection of really extraordinarily top actors last time, practically acting royalty, so the Bond films can clearly attract really high level talent. And I know there's folks who think they should get no-name jobbing actors and directors because that's what the first ones were like in the 60s but I don't really follow that logic. If you can get the best, why wouldn't you?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Don't forget these actors will be getting their own spinoff series! Can't wait to see the Q mysteries. LOL! Sorry I couldn't resist a wee joke.

    I would love to see Fiennes return as M. Whoever pointed out that Naomi is in her fifties now, I will not hear that! LOL! But I grew so fond of her in the role of Moneypenny to see her as M wouldn't be that jarring. Would EON do this? Not sure but Harris has been a wonderful ambassador of the Bond brand keeping her involved is something I would explore.
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