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Yeah okay, that's a fair way to see it, can't argue with that.
I don't disagree, I think they came up with a brilliant reworking of the MI6 crew which I'd probably put on an equal level with the originals. And when it comes to M, for me Dench is the best one we've had- Lee was great but she pips it. She might even be the most iconic M, because of her longevity and higher profile in her 007 movies: if you showed your average person on the street a photo of her sat behind a desk I think they'd know to call her M more than perhaps they would a photo of Lee. She's even doing a set of adverts in the UK at the moment based on her M persona.
I think it's great that after so many years of the series they're still producing films and casting which are worthy enough of being considered the best so far.
SO any new film would sit between the films Craig made, just as much as all the films that came before. They're just Bond's stories re-told for the current time.
In this way, it wouldn't be a problem to keep the current crew, which, like you guy, I really like.
Hence, for me they can stay.
For as much as Judi Dench returning as M, she now definately is too old.
Naomi Harris as M could actually work, she's in her early fifties now.
I'd really like to see Ben back as Q, I just like his incarnation which has just the right amount of nod to Desmond as well as beeing his own character.
I agree—Dame Judi is the best M we've had so far. This isn’t a criticism of Lee, of course, but when Judi took on the role, the screenwriters provided her with far richer material. As a result, her M feels like more than just the voice delivering Bond’s orders; she becomes a catalyst for his growth as a spy, especially in the Craig films.
I particularly agree with your final point. Setting aside the notion of 'blasphemy'—often rooted in a reverence for the original Bond films, warranted or not—I have no trouble praising many of the elements in the Craig films as the finest in the series' long history.
@CommanderRoss
I absolutely agree about Wishaw. Out of the three, he's the one least tied to any particular Bond film (while Eve and Mallory are a part of SF's story). He could be back. I'm sure audiences wouldn't mind. He's just a bloody good Q, different enough, and yet similar enough, to Desmond--if that makes sense. And Ben Wishaw is a very good actor. I love his voice and articulation, along with his Q's sometimes dry, sometimes clumsy humor.
The Craig era was a self contained one; time to move forward.
Having at least some link back to DN is something I'd like EON to continue.
Yeah they did it last time so there's nothing to say they can't do it again, and they got a collection of really extraordinarily top actors last time, practically acting royalty, so the Bond films can clearly attract really high level talent. And I know there's folks who think they should get no-name jobbing actors and directors because that's what the first ones were like in the 60s but I don't really follow that logic. If you can get the best, why wouldn't you?
I would love to see Fiennes return as M. Whoever pointed out that Naomi is in her fifties now, I will not hear that! LOL! But I grew so fond of her in the role of Moneypenny to see her as M wouldn't be that jarring. Would EON do this? Not sure but Harris has been a wonderful ambassador of the Bond brand keeping her involved is something I would explore.
IMO it's time that when ideas and characters are cherry-picked, it's from the whole franchise, and not just previous films and novels.
In the last few films Moneypenny has actually been kind of playing the Bill role in that she's Bond's friend and ally in the service, and I quite like that.
I don't expect any of them to return, but what if Rory Kinnear got to show a bit more of his acting skills as head of MI6?
Mabey she agree with his new Role of Honour, it is only waiting of her look a like agree...
Mabey for one movie before the promotion he can have lead Mi6 off the record, a bit like FYEO has no M because of respect to Bernard Lee/Miles Messervy.
In earlier comment with bit of joking i said that Moneypenny should take honours from Malery, because him sitting in jail and her surname starts with M. Despite that she be named Moneypenny because she takes Money from the Casino in Skyfall. Naming her ''M'' let the name ''Eve'' dissapair and mabey stil can as sort warning signal. Where Felix stay for American Friend (Leiter as password to make contact ;) ).
But Bond's death, made it difficult not impossible.
This. Especially for Malory. I think of the whole team, only Naomie Harris might not be suitable for the next Bond actor, and only because of the age difference.
Lets spin another one about the future:
Would you rather EON fight the fight with Amazon OR suck it up and make the next film?
The recent Variety article suggested that EON and Amazon are at a loggerhead. One seeing the series in one way and the other seeing the "content" that the series has. It appears we are in a stand off.
Curious your thoughts on this. Would you rather that EON continue to hold strong and no film be made until they are sure that Amazon will let them bring their vision to the screen? OR should EON suck it up, compromise and get a film into production?
One we get a film, although it may not be what we are used to, the other sees no film coming to light anytime soon.
Unfortunately, Judi Dench was in the British press in the last couple of weeks saying that her eyesight's now so bad due to macular degeneration that she can no longer leave the house by herself. She's also 90. Judi's given enough, I'd say, and she deserves to take it easy.
EDIT: just missed the cut off for the previous topic, sorry!
I think to some extent every film involves a level of compromise when making it. But I can understand EON wanting to assert as much creative control as possible and stick to the fundamentals of their approach to this franchise/character. So I suppose between the two options here I can understand them wanting to facilitate that before going ahead. But again, there’ll likely be something in there that’ll appeal to Amazon.
I have no desire to see the James Bond series driven into the ground just to satisfy a streaming service's desire for 'content', which has in almost all other cases actively harmed their respective franchises (see Star Wars, Marvel, Star Trek, LoTR) - how have these franchises been improved by spinning them out into a wider amount of series and films? 007 Road to a Million was bad. Leave it at that.
Not that I particularly have much trust in EoN's creative ability (decisions taken for Spectre and NTTD do not sit well with me) but at least they want to maintain the series as event cinema.
My mind cant comprehend that Amazon willingly spent $250m on Red One, a poor film with very limited series appeal and a poor box office run, when they have a cinematic series that always generates at least 3x its budget at the box office, has huge marketing cache through is partnerships, and has high residual value afterwards. That $250m would have been way better spent on getting a Bond film in the can, rather than that trash.
I think they should reach an agreement and make a simple James Bond movie. It may be time to resurrect James Bond JR too. It wouldn't be the end of the world.