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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Tough one. Every 2 years if the quality is guaranteed, I guess. Big 'if', yeah, I know.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Preferably every 2 years. Even if one is a stinker a newer and hopefully better one will be around the corner.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2023 Posts: 4,507
    My opnion is not changed. The 3th movie of new actor should be 2 years after the second.
    Two movies in 5 years.

    QOS how much i liked it 3-3 have been better then the 2-4 we get. Spectre - Bond 26 can be 10 years if there release it in 2025. In 2025 the 4th 5 cardboard in Spectre is over if we count NTTD Feb or April 2020 release year. But if the take delay include then it wil be 2026. In both cases Bond 27 should be out in 2028. That speak against 2,5 or 3 years but we wait long enough.

    Of course i stil hope on Bond 26 next year and Bond 27 in 2027. Rather see it happen we get news about Johnny English 4 later this year for release next year ^:)^ and delay of Mi8 to November 2024.
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    I don't equate the amount of time between films as a big factor with respect to quality.
    Nor is a quality film necessarily a good film.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Ideally, the next two would be in 2025 and 2027. But with the writers' strike, probably 2026 and 2028.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    It doesn't matter, as long as EON is planning the next film while working on a previous one. They have an unlimited source of ideas. They just need to look back at unused ideas. Now if EON decides to do a two parter, then a year between wouldn't be the worst idea.
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    My unpopular opinion is the extra time doesn't always guarentee a better film.

    Honestly I don't really think NTTD was worth a 6 year wait. My least favorite entry after a long gap.
    In fact, I'd probably have enjoyed the film as is more had it been released in 2017. Then we could've had Aidan Turner's first film in 2019, his second in 2021, and we'd be eagerly awaiting his third to come out this November.

    Okay that was just an excuse to annoyingly bring up Aidan Turner again. :D :D :D

    Seriously, though I'd prefer a 2 year gap. I don't remotely believe quality suffers from only 2 years. I think it suffers when the films are procrastinated. You get rusty if too much time passes.


    If you don't use it, you lose it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If they were really capable of planning ahead and the quality wasn't diminished, two years, absolutely. I miss those 2-3 year gaps so much. I'm not impatient, I just hate waiting 4-5 years for an installment and not being blown away by it.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    3 seems right.

  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Crank em out assembly line style
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Reopen the sausage factory.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    My unpopular opinion is the extra time doesn't always guarentee a better film.

    Honestly I don't really think NTTD was worth a 6 year wait. My least favorite entry after a long gap.
    In fact, I'd probably have enjoyed the film as is more had it been released in 2017. Then we could've had Aidan Turner's first film in 2019, his second in 2021, and we'd be eagerly awaiting his third to come out this November.

    Okay that was just an excuse to annoyingly bring up Aidan Turner again. :D :D :D

    Seriously, though I'd prefer a 2 year gap. I don't remotely believe quality suffers from only 2 years. I think it suffers when the films are procrastinated. You get rusty if too much time passes.


    If you don't use it, you lose it.

    A lot of the gaps in the Craig era were not Barbara and Michael's fault.

    SF got delayed because of MGM/financing issues.

    https://deadline.com/2010/01/exclusive-sam-mendes-about-to-be-hired-as-consultant-on-bond-23-21327/

    NTTD got delayed because of Danny Boyle (okay that was partly their fault, hiring the wrong guy) and Covid (certainly not their fault).

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

    QoS and SP were delivered more or less on time. Speed over quality?

    It should have been:
    CR 2006
    QoS 2008
    SF 2011
    SP 2014
    NTTD 2018

    We waited a total of three extra years than Eon intended.

    It's also important to note that as the Bond actor inevitably gets more famous, he becomes less available. This will happen again. Even Connery started slowing down toward the end of his run.
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    echo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    My unpopular opinion is the extra time doesn't always guarentee a better film.

    Honestly I don't really think NTTD was worth a 6 year wait. My least favorite entry after a long gap.
    In fact, I'd probably have enjoyed the film as is more had it been released in 2017. Then we could've had Aidan Turner's first film in 2019, his second in 2021, and we'd be eagerly awaiting his third to come out this November.

    Okay that was just an excuse to annoyingly bring up Aidan Turner again. :D :D :D

    Seriously, though I'd prefer a 2 year gap. I don't remotely believe quality suffers from only 2 years. I think it suffers when the films are procrastinated. You get rusty if too much time passes.


    If you don't use it, you lose it.

    A lot of the gaps in the Craig era were not Barbara and Michael's fault.

    SF got delayed because of MGM/financing issues.

    https://deadline.com/2010/01/exclusive-sam-mendes-about-to-be-hired-as-consultant-on-bond-23-21327/

    NTTD got delayed because of Danny Boyle (okay that was partly their fault, hiring the wrong guy) and Covid (certainly not their fault).

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

    QoS and SP were delivered more or less on time. Speed over quality?

    It should have been:
    CR 2006
    QoS 2008
    SF 2011
    SP 2014
    NTTD 2018

    We waited a total of three extra years than Eon intended.

    It's also important to note that as the Bond actor inevitably gets more famous, he becomes less available. This will happen again. Even Connery started slowing down toward the end of his run.

    Excellent points. :)
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    An excellent summary @echo.

    As for future releases: every three years would be great.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited July 2023 Posts: 6,272
    Of the three years of delays, about 1.5 of those years were Covid (Mar. 2020-Oct. 2021), so Eon really only fell behind its own schedule by about 1.5 years.

    I think that's pretty good by Eon, all factors considered.

    Would I love for Eon to stockpile scripts and shoot them every two years? Sure but MGW often says they try to be true to whatever the current threat of the moment is (different from Cubby, who hewed toward fairly standard megalomaniac plots in the '70s and '80s), so I don't think we'll see them shooting films back-to-back. They don't want the films, or the product-placement technology in them, to feel dated.

    In the future, I think there will be a two-year gap between the first two, to capitalize on the new actor, then maybe 3 years, with maybe a 4-year gap in there.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    echo wrote: »
    Of the three years of delays, about 1.5 of those years were Covid (Mar. 2020-Oct. 2021), so Eon really only fell behind its own schedule by about 1.5 years.

    I think that's pretty good by Eon, all factors considered.

    Would I love for Eon to stockpile scripts and shoot them every two years? Sure but MGW often says they try to be true to whatever the current threat of the moment is (different from Cubby, who hewed toward fairly standard megalomaniac plots in the '70s and '80s), so I don't think we'll see them shooting films back-to-back.

    In the future, I think there will be a two-year gap between the first two, to capitalize on the new actor, then maybe 3 years, with maybe a 4-year gap in there.

    I don’t think MGW will be in charge much longer. He’s had his fair share of health problems, it seems recently. Also, Amazon probably wants movies faster if they have a true say in production. Bond does print money, honestly. I’d say 2-3 years is likely more and more.
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    echo wrote: »
    Of the three years of delays, about 1.5 of those years were Covid (Mar. 2020-Oct. 2021), so Eon really only fell behind its own schedule by about 1.5 years.

    I think that's pretty good by Eon, all factors considered.

    Would I love for Eon to stockpile scripts and shoot them every two years? Sure but MGW often says they try to be true to whatever the current threat of the moment is (different from Cubby, who hewed toward fairly standard megalomaniac plots in the '70s and '80s), so I don't think we'll see them shooting films back-to-back. They don't want the films, or the product-placement technology in them, to feel dated.

    In the future, I think there will be a two-year gap between the first two, to capitalize on the new actor, then maybe 3 years, with maybe a 4-year gap in there.

    Sounds about right, I'd say.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Yes it is an interesting discussion. I would prefer a more frequent releasing of films but understand why we must be patient and wait.

    Okay how about this one next:

    Would you rather take a train ride with Solitaire or Anya Amasova?
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    edited July 2023 Posts: 15,127
    thedove wrote: »
    Yes it is an interesting discussion. I would prefer a more frequent releasing of films but understand why we must be patient and wait.

    Okay how about this one next:

    Would you rather take a train ride with Solitaire or Anya Amasova?

    Solitaire, no contest.
    We could play Gin, I could lose, I could use an old adage. Unlucky at cards!
    ;) ;) :x
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    With Solitaire
    She is very beautiful.
    Tee Hee is easier to beat than Jaws...
    and she isn't very angry when you stow her with the folding bed...
    And again: she is extremely beautiful
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited July 2023 Posts: 3,787
    Solitaire, she's warm and kind and kinda friendly.

    Anya, again, like what I've said before in here when she's compared to Pam Bouvier, she's not that friendly, she's cold and distant and likely to be more impatient, we would've likely to get in more heated arguments than friendly conversations, I just seeing Anya not being a nice person, plus she's not to be trusted.

    Solitaire would've likely to be fun to hang out with, I could play with her at cards, tell me my fortune (I would accept it even if it wasn't real), and we would talk a lot of things for a very long time, laugh together, and probably being ended up being a genuine friend of mine.

    Both are damsels, but Solitaire was more understandable and she's not a fighter, so in a good way, with Anya, she's damsel in a bad way that she's made out to be a tough, well trained agent, but ended up a damsel in distress in a 'not-so-understandable' situations.

    So Solitaire by a mile, well, in short, I would prefer every (and other) Bond Girls than Anya Amasova (maybe except Mary Goodnight and Stacey Sutton).
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Ahum. It's confession time.

    Many Bond girls are a delight to behold. Many are gorgeous; stunningly beautiful; absolutely, insanely, ridiculously alluring.

    But the one that gets my number one vote is Solitaire.

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    A train ride with this angel? Where do I sign up, please?
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited July 2023 Posts: 9,008
    As I said the last time that Anya Amasova was one of the alternatives: I'd never trust a KGB agent. So apart from all other considerations, Solitaire wins by default.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Anya has her charms, but it has to be Solitaire.

    JSE018.jpg

    Oh. Muh. Lawd.

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Solitaire. No question.
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    Solitaire, even today, with Jane's current age. 72! Can you believe she's 72? I'd date her.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Solitaire my dear, the cards say we will be lovers ❤
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I agree with all the love showered on Ms. Seymour. She is in my top five of Bond ladies for sure. I would love a train ride with her! Time for us to move on down the track!

    Lets move to the literary side of Bond!

    Would you rather read a John Gardner continuation novel or a Raymond Benson continuation novel?

    You can pick whatever book that your preferred author wrote!
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited July 2023 Posts: 3,787
    I'll pass on this one, I liked both authors, so I couldn't choose between them.

    I liked John Gardner, and I think he wrote some good books, I kinda liked Scorpius and its concept, and I think he wrote a great and genuine love interest in Flicka Von Grusse, she's one of the best Bond Girls for me along with Vesper Lynd, Tiffany Case, Honeychile Ryder, Domino Vitali and Gala Brand (or Vivienne Michel), she's a fully realized, competent, no-nonsense, rounded Bond Girl, and there's a genuine romance between her and Bond, and most convincing for that matter, it's very easy to buy Bond falling in love with her.

    And I liked how he explored Bond's character more further (Making him visit EuroDisney, Promoting him to a Captain), his exploration of the Bond character was interesting.

    Some parts were cheesy, but some characters are interesting like Nena Blofeld and Cedar Leiter.

    One thing I liked about Raymond Benson is his Union Trilogy, I liked how he gave such characters of Draco, Bunt, Kissy Suzuki and even their child, James Jr a resolution.

    With probably the exception of Mathis, as I'm not a fan of his treatment of Mathis, but the rest old characters, I liked how he gave closure at.

    The sex scenes may also a bit uncomfortable and some weren't necessary to the narrative, but the plots in his books are great too.

    It's hard for me to choose, as both have sides that I liked.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Gardner, simply because he has slightly more adventures to choose from. I've only read Licence Renewed, and thought it was a good first entry.
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