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Of course it's a silly scene but so are crossing alligators and flipping scorpions.
That and animal rights activists would complain. Although honestly, I’m tired of animals being used to torture and kill people. Especially when the animal gets needlessly killed itself.
One can say that there is a romance between Bond and the leading ladies that features in the plots, gambling occurs in both films. There is a chase through a festival by a female antagonist. Bond is racing against a clock as Blofeld demands a ransom and a title with a given timeframe. Bond is out on his own in both films, though in TB he does have a bit more support. Much of the action takes place in one location and one type of environment. I can see similarities.
I guess it depends on the script.
It's like YOLT and Spy, although I think the similarities are much more pronounced. Then MR becomes Spy with the underwater being switched for space. Even Bond having an antagonistic relationship with the leading lady for a good deal of the film. Both seem to suggest Amasova and Goodhead are his equal. I would argue that only Holly shows Bond up through out the film and especially when they get to space.
Interesting observation @thedove regarding TB and OHMSS.
Ah, genuinely didn't know that!
Ray Harryhausen would have made a nice one, but it might have turned the franchise into a more fantastical one, with a "critter of the movie" per each Bond film.
People do it pretty well by themselves. No need of animals.
Did you listen to the Bond and Friends podcast where they did a dive into the scripts? Very interesting to see where they were taking Bond after LTK. It was back to the more fantastical elements of the series and creeping back to Roger Moore territory. Not sure Dalton would have been able to pull it off.
It does seem a shame Tim never got one last one film.
Agreed about that! Man, some sources even stating that it would've possibly be a Terminator rip-off with androids as villains and set in the Great Wall of China, I couldn't see that working, especially with Dalton.
I mean, I couldn't see any Bond actors in that script, even Moore and Brosnan, I think Androids are just too far for a Bond film, that would've been bad, maybe more worse than the invisible car!
Haven't listened to them no. Don't think the project of a third Dalton film would have worked, from what I read about it. Not for Bond and certainly not for Dalton. I was thinking more of a serious and straight Cold War spy thriller after TLD, but clean of all the Mooresque elements that this movie had. And with a more menacing villain than in TLD. Whatever ome thinks of LTK (and I'm not a fan), I think the change of tone and setting was far too abrupt.
1. Not having Felix Leiter in A View To A Kill, instead what we've got was a disposable, almost forgettable character in Chuck Lee, I mean this is Bond in America, and doing mission in America, Felix Leiter should be his contact there.
2. John Barry not scoring both The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only, I don't mind this much, but imagine have we got Barry to score both films, no against Hamlisch and Conti, but their scores were to say, a bit dated, sounded very much 70's (Discotheque and Pop), with Barry, his scores were timeless and classics, and it's funny considering that Barry scored Moonraker, a film between TSWLM and FYEO.
3. Not exploring Bond in the Royal Navy in the Craig Era, or to be specific, have Craig Bond wear a Naval Commander Battle Dress/Uniform.
4. Removing unnecessary themes/tunes like the California Girls in the Snowboarding scene in A View To A Kill, and the Slide Whistle in The Man With The Golden Gun that almost interfered with the quality of the car stunt.
5. Moore's Bond not driving an Aston Martin? Although I don't mind this much too, but in all of the Bonds, only Moore never got to drive one.
Didn't one of the drafts have Bond in a rodeo?
I was convinced that’s what was inevitably going to happen.
I'd rather have him as Mr White, as he was. But I wished Blofeld would have been way closer to the novel.
If White had been Blofeld, would that mean Bond had fallen for his adopted niece?
Lol; I think it would have taken a different path... No foster brother, no Madeleine... Maybe this storyline happened in an alternative universe...
@Ludovico , we all hafta start somewhere, including the Big Boss.
White killed Le Chiffre in CR, but in QoS, he came off as far more sinister, and a puppet master. He knew who Mitchell was (so he was obviously someone high up the chain), and had someone on standby who helped him escape from his capture (therefore being someone important enough to save)... By the third film, in my imaginary world, he could have taken over Quantum and amalgamated it into a new criminal empire called, SPECTRE....
Agree. Your's is the better story.
Agreed @FoxRox …. I was quite disappointed when I read that they were going to be running back Seydoux and Waltz. I thought there’s nothing to salvage.
Apart from Fukunaga’s unfortunate private life, he is a very skilled storyteller and he was wholly successful (in my eyes), in bringing meaning and gravitas to Madeleine and Blofeld. I fell in love with NTTD the first time I saw it. And my affection has only grown…
I think they should have embraced the fact that they'd already established Quantum and have Spectre go to war with them, rather than just have Quantum evaporate. You'd probably have needed another film after Spectre and before NTTD for that though.
Turning Quantum into Spectre was a bit shoddy, that said I didn't minded too much because I always understood that Quantum was a stand-in for Spectre due to legal restrictions. But it could have and should have been better explained and developed.
I said it in the QOS thread: I would love to read a series of graphic novels showing Bond's missions set between the events of QOS and SF/SP. Not sure if it's a missed opportunity or merely an idea for fanfic, but there you go.