The Bond Games' Place in the Canon

Agent007391

Does anybody but me actually put the original Bond games (minus 007 Racing and Rogue Agent, but adding in GoldenEye 2010/Reloaded) in the continuity? Since none of them contradict the films, and the films generally don't contradict them, I don't see why they can't be. It's obvious that Bond had other adventures than just the films, why can't the games be some of those missions?

Thoughts on the subject, please?

QBranch

James Bond 007 for Gameboy is a favourite of mine. However, this game messes with the film continuity as in the plot we see both Oddjob (who Bond meets, and kills in GF) and Jaws (who is now an ally- unless you consider the game being set between TSWLM and MR).

Agent007391

I liked James Bond 007, too. For a Gameboy Bond game, it had an oddly great story that rivals many of today's Bond games.

Agent007391

Oops, double post.

Agent007391

Triple post. My connection was getting screwy last night.

Risico007

Agreed James bond 007 was a far better game then maybe all of today's bonds you could be stealth-full you could do action you could gamble you can talk with people it was quite fun (i love the modern bond games but there lack of ingenuity is painfully obvious and I don't just mean Activision I mean all of the bond games including the Ea games. Nightfire flirted with stealth and did a good job of it but not enough choice for my blood)


If i had to guess I'd do it like this (modern games excluding james bond 007 and the film games Goldeneye, From Russia with love etc)


Licence to Kill
James Bond the Duel
Goldeneye
Agent Under fire (I personally feel Dench's M doesn't trust him as much as she does in Nightfire hence why I put AUF here because by the film tomorrow never dies M approves of Bond and his methods)
tomorrow Never Dies
Nightfire
The World is not Enough
Everything or nothing
Die Another Day

Reboot

Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
Blood Stone
I could put Goldeneye 2010 Here but as i said with my no film based games...
SkyFall

That is my list and I'm sticking to it

Agent007391

I only tack on GoldenEye 2010 because, while it is based on the film, the very use of the Daniel Craig Bond makes it a semi-original storyline, as do the myriad of changes throughout the story (Zukovsky's nightclub being in Barcelona instead of St. Petersburg; Zukovsky dying; Dubai instead of France; the general order of things is a little different).

Other than the Q in NightFire obviously being Desmond Llewelyn, I don't know why you put NightFire before TWINE. I guess I can understand AUF before TND, just making a few exceptions for Bond's weapon (in TND, he switches to the P99, whereas in AUF, he's already using it). For me, it goes like this (I haven't played James Bond: The Duel, and I'm only using the Brosnan movies)

GoldenEye
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World is Not Enough
Agent Under Fire (I'm a little nervous about this one, because I don't know if it makes sense for him to have taken on clones, then a gene therapy'd baddie, or the gene therapy'd baddie and then the clones)
Die Another Day (he obtains the Vanquish in this movie)
NightFire (he already has the Vanquish in this game, but there's a problem with Desmond Llewelyn's Q being in the game)
Everything or Nothing (again, he's familiar with the Vanquish, and he's calling Cleese Q, which he was reluctant to do at the beginning of their scene in DAD until Cleese proved himself by testing out the gadgets)

Now, the Craigs:

Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
GoldenEye or Blood Stone (their placement after QoS isn't solid, so either one could go first)
Blood Stone or GoldenEye (just the opposite of above, because one has to go first and the other second, I just don't know which)
Skyfall

SharkBait

There are only few games that I think belong into the same canon as the films. These are EoN which is Brosnan's last outing as Bond. Blöodstone and Goldeye 2010/RE are missions too in which Craig's Bond partakes between the movies. I just don't know in which point of his 007 career I'd place the Goldeye mission.

Nightfire... I'm 50/50 on that.

Agent007391

Well, Blood Stone and GoldenEye 2010's placement in the Craigverse are practically interchangeable. Either game could take place first, and the only solid thing about them is that they take place after QoS.

Risico007

unless... perhaps Janus is the organization behind Nicole the organization isn't given a name perhaps Janus is the on pulling the strings making it

Casino Royale
Quantum of solace
Blood Stone
Goldeneye

X3MSonicX

@Agent007391 Why does you don't consider 007 Racing and Goldeneye Rogue Agent as original Bond Games? Both are great. (Guess i'm the only guy on this whole community that thinks that GRA is a great game)

Agent007391

I kind of like Rogue Agent's gameplay (I'll be honest, I have no problem with any Bond game's gameplay), but I despise it's story. Another reason: The Goldfinger and Scaramanga versus Dr. No storyline. Each one of these villains were separate entities in the films, and Goldfinger and Scaramanga had no connection to SPECTRE. Plus, each one died in their respective movies.

I don't have much problem with 007 Racing, I just can't find an easy place in the continuity for it.

Risico007 wrote:

unless... perhaps Janus is the organization behind Nicole the organization isn't given a name perhaps Janus is the on pulling the strings making it

I kind of like that idea. It could work, too. Nicole is already a double inside MI6, and she's killed by someone who has access to a Predator unmanned drone, which are government issue (though I didn't know the UK used them), meaning that a military officer or someone similar (i.e. Trevelyn) would actually have a position to use it. I actually like that theory. Maybe I'll put Blood Stone ahead of GoldenEye 2010, then.

Risico007

plus Nicole was about to reveal something big I.E that a 00 is the head maybe it just seems odd that an organization would know she is about to talk unless they read in a report by 007 that he was going after Nicole.

Agent007391

Or, since Trevelyn and Bond are friends, perhaps he called his old friend for backup, and instead, Trevelyn flipped on the Predator and sent it out to kill Nicole. Also, most likely, Bond did contact M. How else would he have a nice clean suit and a brand new DBS?

X3MSonicX

Risico007 wrote:

plus Nicole was about to reveal something big I.E that a 00 is the head maybe it just seems odd that an organization would know she is about to talk unless they read in a report by 007 that he was going after Nicole.

I Always thought that this Revelation would be Blofeld.

SharkBait

Personally I think they should reveal Pleasence's Blofeld to be behind what happened in Bloodstone ;)

Agent007391

I would rather it be Telly Savalas, but Blofeld in general would have been cool.