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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I hope Amazon can learn from the Star Wars/Marvel over-saturation. Even in real life, you become more valued, when you visit people once in a while.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    delfloria wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    I am always amazed at how negative people can be. I realize people don't like change but the films made by EON overall were not all home runs. The Saltzman/Broccoli film era is my touchstone so I'm wide open after the Craig/Broccoli/Wilson era is now behind us. I can't help but feel that the fans complaining the most are one's that grew up on the final Brosnan and Craig films.

    I don’t think it’s that at all. It’s the possibility of the brand being diluted by Amazon. It took under 5 years for Star Wars and Marvel to go from two of cinema’s most successful IP’s to a series of streaming shows that are churned out every year or two. Marvel might still have theatrical releases but I’d argue the streaming shows have over saturated the brand and have made following along with the current films damn near impossible unless you’ve watched every single piece of Marvel media. That model has arguably diluted those two brands - the fact that Amazon is keen on spin-offs to begin with should be worrying given what we know about them as a company/streamer and the streaming model to begin with.

    I think you can put that under "FEAR of change". Complain if it happens but not now. Enjoy the ride because you never know what might happen. Especially when there is NOTHING one can do to change the situation. Couldn't be much worse than having a 007 reality series. THAT is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    I think the negative reception online is at least influencing Amazon’s decisions on how to go about. We know they would have wanted to do multiple spin offs and the reception to that couldn’t have been more negative, so they changed their minds and are only going to focus on the one Bond film for now. I think we’re gonna see them take cautious steps from here on.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 27 Posts: 4,920
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    I am always amazed at how negative people can be. I realize people don't like change but the films made by EON overall were not all home runs. The Saltzman/Broccoli film era is my touchstone so I'm wide open after the Craig/Broccoli/Wilson era is now behind us. I can't help but feel that the fans complaining the most are one's that grew up on the final Brosnan and Craig films.

    I agree 100%. Even the Felix Leiter book announcement today got some unfair criticism. Both for Benson writing again, and another spinoff book. I’m happy that Wilson/Broccoli/Craig can be put behind us as well. Sometimes, change can lead to new things and lessons. We’ve actually been pretty lucky so far this week, with Bond news. We can truly be grateful again, after a drought of no news.

    At this point I’m much more interested in an Amazon Bond film than anything from IFP for what it’s worth (never touched one of the spin off books due to lack of interest anyway, and the official Bond novels/stories have been pretty hit or miss over the last 10 + years, with some pretty bizarre entries).

    It seems like they’re concentrating on the main film at this point, which I think is the right thing to do. I don’t know if they’ll rush after that to make a Moneypenny or Leiter series or play more of a long game with original characters from the new films having their own show (the latter I can see working with the right character. Unfortunately much like the spin off books I wouldn’t specifically watch a Leiter or Moneypenny one).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I heard from a youtuber that the deal is 100% completed now, on March 24th. So I assume that means we can go full steam ahead?

    Quite possible release date announcement at cinemacon as per @P2D prediction.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't trust people on YT, but equally it does seem likely that Amazon would only appoint/announce producers once the deal was finalised.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    They only made 2 movies in 10 years. A little saturation now isn't such a bad thing
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 27 Posts: 8,778
    James Bond Dossier says at the 90 second mark "as of the 24th of March the deal is done".

    He also says at the start that the deal happened unannounced.


    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    They only made 2 movies in 10 years. A little saturation now isn't such a bad thing

    Perhaps Summer 2027 is realistic. It's rumoured a script is already being written.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    They only made 2 movies in 10 years. A little saturation now isn't such a bad thing

    Perhaps Summer 2027 is realistic. It's rumoured a script is already being written.

    Where?
  • MalloryMallory
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I heard from a youtuber that the deal is 100% completed now, on March 24th. So I assume that means we can go full steam ahead?

    Quite possible release date announcement at cinemacon as per @P2D prediction.

    It is indeed complete, Amazon updated their original press release:

    https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-mgm-studios-james-bond
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Benny wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    They only made 2 movies in 10 years. A little saturation now isn't such a bad thing

    Perhaps Summer 2027 is realistic. It's rumoured a script is already being written.

    Where?

    I believe that was a part of the podcast that the Cuaron rumours came from. Sure, it was an something of an offhand comment, but that's still justifiably a "rumour".
    Mallory wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I heard from a youtuber that the deal is 100% completed now, on March 24th. So I assume that means we can go full steam ahead?

    Quite possible release date announcement at cinemacon as per @P2D prediction.

    It is indeed complete, Amazon updated their original press release:

    https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-mgm-studios-james-bond

    This is another significant peice of news! Bond fans keep winning. :D
  • MalloryMallory
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    I have also added a timeline of official announcements to the front page post, to help keep track of these. This should take us up to the start of production, when we traditionally have a separate thread for that.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Mallory wrote: »
    I have also added a timeline of official announcements to the front page post, to help keep track of these. This should take us up to the start of production, when we traditionally have a separate thread for that.

    Thanks for that!
    And I agree with @delfloria that we should enjoy the ride while we can. Why worry about things we can't change? There is a chance that Bond 26 will bring us some excellent scripting, casting, production value, cinematography, music, action - I look forward to all of that!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 27 Posts: 17,594
    Mallory wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I heard from a youtuber that the deal is 100% completed now, on March 24th. So I assume that means we can go full steam ahead?

    Quite possible release date announcement at cinemacon as per @P2D prediction.

    It is indeed complete, Amazon updated their original press release:

    https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-mgm-studios-james-bond

    That's very cool, well spotted. So no reason to think it's not full steam ahead right now then.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I concur @zebrafish and @delfloria
    I think it’s an exciting new chapter for James Bond. I’ve always trusted EON and Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson to deliver. I have no reason to think that Amazon/MGM under the guidance of Pascal and Heyman cannot take the series forward to.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Since waiting until May until any progress can be made is no longer a factor, the sky really is the limit. Perhaps P2D was right, and we will see something at cinemacon. :-??
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,466
    delfloria wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    I am always amazed at how negative people can be. I realize people don't like change but the films made by EON overall were not all home runs. The Saltzman/Broccoli film era is my touchstone so I'm wide open after the Craig/Broccoli/Wilson era is now behind us. I can't help but feel that the fans complaining the most are one's that grew up on the final Brosnan and Craig films.

    I don’t think it’s that at all. It’s the possibility of the brand being diluted by Amazon. It took under 5 years for Star Wars and Marvel to go from two of cinema’s most successful IP’s to a series of streaming shows that are churned out every year or two. Marvel might still have theatrical releases but I’d argue the streaming shows have over saturated the brand and have made following along with the current films damn near impossible unless you’ve watched every single piece of Marvel media. That model has arguably diluted those two brands - the fact that Amazon is keen on spin-offs to begin with should be worrying given what we know about them as a company/streamer and the streaming model to begin with.

    I think you can put that under "FEAR of change". Complain if it happens but not now. Enjoy the ride because you never know what might happen. Especially when there is NOTHING one can do to change the situation. Couldn't be much worse than having a 007 reality series. THAT is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    So pretend to be happy while watching one of my favorite film franchises be exploited to where its value begins to decrease? This is why I’m so indifferent to the news of Heyman and Pascal taking over. I’m happy that some people are excited by the news of course but for me the writing is on the wall. Say what you will about the quality of the recent films (everyone has their opinions) but I trust Broccoli/Wilson 10x more than Amazon. Maybe I am being pessimistic and a bit of a killjoy but the franchise as we know it is over and we can all look forward to more pointless spin-offs like that 007 reality series you mentioned. Another Cinematic IP soon to be exploited to nothing.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 27 Posts: 4,920
    I think all we can do is wait and see. I don't think anything's guaranteed (while I personally don't see any reason this next Bond film will be a flop, what happens with the franchise in the long run is obviously a bit more uncertain, and I can understand people have their reservations about Amazon). At any rate it's worth saying Bond has always changed - often quite radically - even under EON. Whether these films ultimately retain what makes them all unique/special is another matter, regardless of short term success.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I think all we can do is wait and see. I don't think anything's guaranteed (while I personally don't see any reason this next Bond film will be a flop, what happens with the franchise in the long run is obviously a bit more uncertain, and I can understand people have their reservations about Amazon). At any rate it's worth saying Bond has always changed - often quite radically - even under EON. Whether these films ultimately retain what makes them all unique/special is another matter, regardless of short term success.

    I’d say the reason Bond has successfully been able to adapt to changes is precisely because of EON’s/The Broccoli Family’s guidance. That’s not to say every film they made was perfect - but I don’t think anyone else could’ve done that. Do Amazon/MGM have that ability? I doubt it personally.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Maybe @Pierce2Daniel was right about a potential release date announcement
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Maybe @Pierce2Daniel was right about a potential release date announcement

    Things are moving quickly, P2D was on the money.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 27 Posts: 4,920
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I think all we can do is wait and see. I don't think anything's guaranteed (while I personally don't see any reason this next Bond film will be a flop, what happens with the franchise in the long run is obviously a bit more uncertain, and I can understand people have their reservations about Amazon). At any rate it's worth saying Bond has always changed - often quite radically - even under EON. Whether these films ultimately retain what makes them all unique/special is another matter, regardless of short term success.

    I’d say the reason Bond has successfully been able to adapt to changes is precisely because of EON’s/The Broccoli Family’s guidance. That’s not to say every film they made was perfect - but I don’t think anyone else could’ve done that. Do Amazon/MGM have that ability? I doubt it personally.

    I agree. I think without EON weathering the tides both creatively and behind the scenes the series wouldn't be around today. It's why I'd say it's not about whether or not this next film is successful (again, it could well be and I hope it is). It's about how the franchise is managed in the long run.

    I think Amazon will at some point realise how tricky Bond films can be. I suppose the best way of putting it is while I don't doubt we'll get highs from this new era, it makes the lows (including Bond films which flop outright, which never happened under EON even with its disappointments) much more likely.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Hoping these people in charge of Bond are familiar with Fleming Books to understand the Bond character better, because in all of the articles so far and the interview of the new Producers (Heyman/Pascal) it seems like they have no idea about Fleming and the novels, they've only mentioned EON.

    I'm fine with them updating Bond's world, but I don't want to see a change in the Bond character itself (himself).
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    When mentioning EON, I am sure Heyman/Pascal include EON's "always go back to Fleming" philosophy. They don't need to mention Fleming, it is obvious that Bond is his creation. But the on-screen Bond has changed back and forth a lot, anyway, always adapting to the times - that's why this misogynistic killer with a taste for alcoholic beverages is still so popular.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    zebrafish wrote: »
    When mentioning EON, I am sure Heyman/Pascal include EON's "always go back to Fleming" philosophy. They don't need to mention Fleming, it is obvious that Bond is his creation. But the on-screen Bond has changed back and forth a lot, anyway, always adapting to the times - that's why this misogynistic killer with a taste for alcoholic beverages is still so popular.

    Thanks for reassurance @zebrafish 😌
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I think what we take for granted with EON was how much of Fleming’s work they adapted for their Bond movies, especially the Craig ones. I especially think it’s something we take for granted when it comes to Purvis and Wade’s writing.

    Ultimately it’ll depend on the director, writers, and to some extent the Bond actor whether they find inspiration for their new Bond tenure in Fleming’s work and what they take from it.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 27 Posts: 2,401
    I kind of suspect that Amazon knows James Bond isn't the usual action hero. It explains why they hired Pascal & Heyman. I think Amazon knows there's more to James Bond than just blowing up buildings and cars. So I think they'll look at Fleming's work.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Of course they'll look at Fleming's work. It's not hard to do, and they can get ideas from it.

    The question is whether they'll look at other books.

  • Kojak007Kojak007
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    Bond 26 is mentioned on today's issue of Production Weekly:
    https://www.productionweekly.com/production-weekly-issue-1446-thursday-march-27-2025-173-listings-39-pages/

    Don't know if there are any relevant Infos mentioned there?
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    With Amazon naming Heyman and Pascal has producers, are they going to have final say on who directs, who is the next Bond, who writes etc??? Or does Amazon still have final say??


    If those two have the final day on everything and it makes me wonder why did Barbara leave? If Amazon was gonna let producers control the series anyways?
  • Since62Since62
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    Anyone watching The Studio new streaming show ? It's funny, fast, tense, somewhat upsetting and - unfortunately if so - perhaps somewhat accurate in spirit if not literally. It's all Hollywood and here's hoping the folks at Amazon are NOTHING like those depicted. At any rate, entertaining show
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