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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I don’t know how much of that is fully true (if it is, a film executive responsible for greenlighting projects who doesn’t even read scripts doesn’t seem like a very good one. Neither is it a good thing when they seemingly have little interest in movies, let alone Bond movies). So it’s probably for the best.

    You'd be surprised.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 28 Posts: 5,993
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited March 28 Posts: 1,773
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.

    Nothing in her filmography or anything else suggests she'd be a good fit beyond having a working relationship with the producers. There are other women directors with better pedigree if that's what we want. But you're right, it wouldn't surprise me if they weren't having that thought. She's earned it, too. Just don't think it's a match, personally.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 28 Posts: 5,993
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.
    Nothing in her filmography or anything else suggests she'd be a good fit beyond having a working relationship with the producers. There are other women directors with better pedigree if that's what we want.
    Exactly, that's why I said I don't think she will. I just thought it was interesting that both producers have worked with her and again she's too busy anyway, if they really are trying to hit the ground running...

    As others have said, I think Alfonso Cuarón would be perfect. Has anyone else watched Disclaimer?

  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    AceHole wrote: »
    Some context, for those who are not yet aware of the Salke vs Broccoli issues:

    "Salke reportedly started pushing for “Marvel-style” ideas to expand Bond, including several spinoff shows and movies. Broccoli, being the purist that she is, seemingly had zero interest in adhering to Salke’s Marvel-esque demands."

    Salke was tasked with dealing with Broccoli, and her description of the franchise as “content” reportedly infuriated Broccoli, who reportedly stormed out of a meeting and later told friends that the people at Amazon are, “f***ing idiots.”



    What can be said about Salke? She's the same person who gave the greenlight on Amazon’s $500M-costing “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power,” not to mention a $300M Russos Bros bomb (“Citadel”), and that $80M partnership deal with Phoebe Waller-Bridge, which has so far yielded a total of zero hit shows.

    Yet, what did her in might have been Bond, James Bond. What an absolute coincidence Salke’s exit occurred right as Amazon’s $1 billion James Bond deal was being finalized. If you ask me, this is Hopkins/Bezos making sure that Salke doesn't go anywhere near 007. There’s too much at stake, too much to lose, and Salke has already f*cked up enough.

    Back in December, a Wall Street Journal report revealed the behind-the-scenes friction between Salke and Barbara Broccoli regarding the creative direction and future of the Bond franchise. Salke reportedly started pushing for “Marvel-style” ideas to expand Bond, including several spinoff shows and movies. Broccoli, being the purist that she is, seemingly had zero interest in adhering to Salke’s Marvel-esque demands.


    Salke was tasked with dealing with Broccoli, and her description of the franchise as “content” reportedly infuriated Broccoli, who reportedly stormed out of a meeting and later told friends that the people at Amazon are, “f***ing idiots.”

    A former Amazon bigwig told Hollywood Elsewhere that Salke’s knowledge of Bond history was very limited and that she had never actually seen any Bond movies before the Daniel Craig era.

    The source went on to state that Salke considers anything made before the ’80s to be an “old movie.” She’s not interested in the classics and never reads scripts.

    You can ask people from her NBC days about this, but agents and managers [will tell you] she never read scripts. She just makes deals with name talents like the Russo brothers and greenlights crap like “Red One.” She’s not material-driven.

    A seasoned writer-director additionally told HE that two years ago, Salke squashed a “Conan the Barbarian” remake from “Game of Thrones” producers, calling the project ‘toxic masculinity.”


    The Bond impasse is all on her. She’s an inexperienced idiot with limited experience and unlimited resources.

    How does such a person, with limited cinematic knowledge, end up overseeing a major studio like MGM/Amazon? Salke’s previous gig was as NBC Entertainment president. Under her presidency, several significant NBC shows were developed like “The Good Place,” “Master of None,” and “Brooklyn Nine-Nine.” Her contributions as a Fox executive include “Glee,” “Modern Family,” and “Bones.” The Amazon/MGM gig was her first significant movie-related position.


    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/3/27/jen-salke-out-at-amazonmgm

    Ok, I don't like her either.
  • BMB007BMB007
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.

    I doubt it'd be Gerwig because of schedule, but I've thought about her before for Bond. She is quite a flexible director with three features in distinct genres while also having a steady hand in big productions.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 28 Posts: 5,993
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.

    I doubt it'd be Gerwig because of schedule [...]
    100%. I have my doubts about whether she'd do it even if she was free, but funny to think that she wouldn't be able to because she's possibly working with the last James Bond on a different project...

    https://deadline.com/2025/03/netflix-daniel-craig-chronicles-of-narnia-movie-the-dish-1236324702/
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Sounds like we dodged the proverbial bullet with Salke. Talk about wrong fit...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 28 Posts: 17,594
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.

    Yeah I get the feeling she would have thoughts about Bond(!) :D
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Not sure if this has already been brought up but I realised today, and I should say, I definitely don't think she'll be in the running, because I don't think she's a natural match with the material, and she's also about to start shooting one of possibly two Narnia films, which Pascal is also producing...

    ...but both David Heyman and Amy Pascal have both worked with Greta Gerwig on Barbie and Little Women respectively.
    Nothing in her filmography or anything else suggests she'd be a good fit beyond having a working relationship with the producers. There are other women directors with better pedigree if that's what we want.
    Exactly, that's why I said I don't think she will. I just thought it was interesting that both producers have worked with her and again she's too busy anyway, if they really are trying to hit the ground running...

    As others have said, I think Alfonso Cuarón would be perfect. Has anyone else watched Disclaimer?


    I haven't, but I'll watch anything with Cate Blanchett.
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Exactly, that's why I said I don't think she will. I just thought it was interesting that both producers have worked with her and again she's too busy anyway, if they really are trying to hit the ground running...
    Maybe not her but I feel a female director is bound to happen eventually.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 28 Posts: 17,594
    I definitely want another female baddie.

    I'd like to know what Dame Barbara thinks of David Heyman. One imagines there's a lot of mutual respect there as basically being the two producers of the two big British(ish) franchises, but then again does she hold a grudge after he sat on Leavesden studios with his Potter films for years and years, the studio complex she basically created for GoldenEye? :D
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I can see why Salke was the last straw with Barbara Broccoli, who is on record as saying that she grew up thinking James Bond was a real person. For Salke to call Cubby's legacy "content" must have been insulting, to say the least.

    It's pretty clear that Amazon originally bought MGM to control Bond, only to realize later (*how* did they not realize this?) that they didn't have creative control, so they had to pay $1 billion more. They must have thought that Broccoli and Wilson would be easy to manipulate.

    I mean, the rest of the MGM library is pretty thin. No one's clamoring for a Heaven's Gate remake. They have their Rockys and their Legally Blondes and their Pink Panthers, but all of that pales next to Bond.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    echo wrote: »
    I can see why Salke was the last straw with Barbara Broccoli, who is on record as saying that she grew up thinking James Bond was a real person. For Salke to call Cubby's legacy "content" must have been insulting, to say the least.

    It's pretty clear that Amazon originally bought MGM to control Bond, only to realize later (*how* did they not realize this?) that they didn't have creative control, so they had to pay $1 billion more. They must have thought that Broccoli and Wilson would be easy to manipulate.

    I mean, the rest of the MGM library is pretty thin. No one's clamoring for a Heaven's Gate remake. They have their Rockys and their Legally Blondes and their Pink Panthers, but all of that pales next to Bond.

    To be fair, offering them more projects isn't a bad thing.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    echo wrote: »
    I can see why Salke was the last straw with Barbara Broccoli, who is on record as saying that she grew up thinking James Bond was a real person. For Salke to call Cubby's legacy "content" must have been insulting, to say the least.

    It's pretty clear that Amazon originally bought MGM to control Bond, only to realize later (*how* did they not realize this?) that they didn't have creative control, so they had to pay $1 billion more. They must have thought that Broccoli and Wilson would be easy to manipulate.

    I mean, the rest of the MGM library is pretty thin. No one's clamoring for a Heaven's Gate remake. They have their Rockys and their Legally Blondes and their Pink Panthers, but all of that pales next to Bond.

    I think some of it also was obtaining the prestige of the MGM name, roaring lion and all. Sounds better than Amazon instant video.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    So much to catch up on but with the person who fired babs being fired herself can EON come back and we can forget about this
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    So much to catch up on but with the person who fired babs being fired herself can EON come back and we can forget about this

    Oh yeah, let's get EON back and continue with the people who thought that Blofeld and Bond should be step brothers and decided to kill James Bond.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    BTW, with the new Bond film, I refuse to call it Bond 26, included on the Weekly Prod. chart we will be able to get updates as they happen.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited March 29 Posts: 746
    Whatever. I could care less about Nile (or whatever it is they're called) Bond. I'm not interested in seeing Bond films made by Bond villains (or at least in their name).

    Still that's just me.

    Sorry for being negative.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    delfloria wrote: »
    BTW, with the new Bond film, I refuse to call it Bond 26, included on the Weekly Prod. chart we will be able to get updates as they happen.

    Why? :-?
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,354
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    BTW, with the new Bond film, I refuse to call it Bond 26, included on the Weekly Prod. chart we will be able to get updates as they happen.

    Why? :-?

    Maybe it’s like you refusing to call Bond 25, NTTD.
    ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Some very interesting points made here. Even suggests that with Cuaron they will attempt to keep a tonal continuity, similar to The Batman after TDK trilogy.

  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited March 29 Posts: 3,261
    It's not a bad point: if NSNA wasn't Bond 13, is this really Bond 26? If the Amazon buyout was more of a hostile takeover than a passing of the torch, shouldn't we acknowledge the breach and have the next film be something like Bond 2.1?
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
    Posts: 172
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Some very interesting points made here. Even suggests that with Cuaron they will attempt to keep a tonal continuity, similar to The Batman after TDK trilogy.

    I have only recently discovered this guy and am enjoying his take on recent events. He’s already ‘least annoying Bond YouTuber’ for me, by a long way .
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 29 Posts: 8,778
    What is interesting about it is he seems to think that bringing in Cuaron means we're in for another paired down, grounded film, whereas if anything I think that Cuaron has a far more lightness of touch approach than a lot of other potential names. I think he would deliver a film as romantic and exotic feeling as FRWL on an epic scope.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 29 Posts: 4,920
    I mean, it's hypothetical anyway (although I like it as a theory and I think Cuaron is very capable of bridging a new era from the Craig one in the way described, insofar as the later Craig films have a lot going on in them tonally). Cuaron has handled some pretty dark themes in his films though (the third Harry Potter alone was noticeably more 'mature' and had a darker tone than its predecessors). But ultimately it's a Bond film, and I definitely agree he has that flair needed to create the thrills required of one.

    I think a lot of this will come down to script too and the writers. I can see them wanting to go for something a bit more 'meaty' and put Bond through something substantial and interesting story-wise (leaves a lot of room for what kind of adventure he'll go on in that way).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I guess if the producers have just been hired to do the one film (I suspect Amazon would want them to do more than one but they haven't announced that) it's possible they might want to leave their mark on it and not just make a GoldenEye/Force Awakens steadying-the-ship sort of vaguely safe Bond film and maybe push it a bit.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I think if they're not trying to make the best Bond film they possibly can, there's no point. I could be wrong, but regardless of what kind of film we end up with I think that'll be their mentality rather than a 'let's just do a regular Bond adventure and hope the fans are all happy' one.
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,927
    delfloria wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    So much to catch up on but with the person who fired babs being fired herself can EON come back and we can forget about this

    Oh yeah, let's get EON back and continue with the people who thought that Blofeld and Bond should be step brothers and decided to kill James Bond.

    So you hate Fleming as well as he killed off Bond twice…


    And again EON also brought us EVERY OTHER BOND FILM FROM DR. NO TO NO TIME TO DIE surely there must be one of the 25 films you like otherwise why are you here
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    surely there must be one of the 25 films you like otherwise why are you here

    It's a question which pops into my head quite regularly when reading these forums! :)
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