EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • Posts: 2,238
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't think Deakins was desperate about the idea of doing a Bond, I don't think he'd do another.

    Deakins turned down Spectre, and in any case, is basically retired now.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I'm not doubting his potential to direct a Bond film, but can anyone tell me why Cuaron is perfect for Bond? I've seen Children Of Men and Gravity

    I'm not being negative here, I'm just not familiar with his stuff and what I've seen I wasn't massively impressed by
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I'm not doubting his potential to direct a Bond film, but can anyone tell me why Cuaron is perfect for Bond? I've seen Children Of Men and Gravity

    I'm not being negative here, I'm just not familiar with his stuff and what I've seen I wasn't massively impressed by

    Id say with Harry Potter 3 he was able to take an existing franchise and make it more mature and up its game stylistically. So in theory he could do similar with Bond. I quite liked Children of Men and Gravity though.
  • K2WIK2WI Europe
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    I think they would be wise to bring back a few players from Eon. David Arnold should be at the top of the list. Daniel Kleinman. Per Hallberg. Alex Witt, second unit. Roger Deakins would be cool as well. Would he pass up a chance to work with a grand auteur like Cuaron?

    I’d add Dennis Gassner and Mark Taylor’s names into the mix too.

    Re: Deakins, while the prospect of working with Cuaron could maybe entice him, I’m gonna agree with the others and say he’s probably not in a rush to return to Bond. In any event I think if Cuaron is getting the directing job, that’ll most likely mean Lubezki is his first option (not that I’m complaining at all).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    K2WI wrote: »
    I think they would be wise to bring back a few players from Eon. David Arnold should be at the top of the list. Daniel Kleinman. Per Hallberg. Alex Witt, second unit. Roger Deakins would be cool as well. Would he pass up a chance to work with a grand auteur like Cuaron?

    I’d add Dennis Gassner and Mark Taylor’s names into the mix too.

    Re: Deakins, while the prospect of working with Cuaron could maybe entice him, I’m gonna agree with the others and say he’s probably not in a rush to return to Bond. In any event I think if Cuaron is getting the directing job, that’ll most likely mean Lubezki is his first option (not that I’m complaining at all).

    The dream team. :D
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    Load up those IMAX film cameras and we’re good to go! 😎
  • RyanRyan Canada
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    I think they would be wise to bring back a few players from Eon. David Arnold should be at the top of the list. Daniel Kleinman. Per Hallberg. Alex Witt, second unit. Roger Deakins would be cool as well. Would he pass up a chance to work with a grand auteur like Cuaron?

    I've thought about this too. Keeping and/or bringing back some of the alumni would certainly help with the transition and help retain the "feel" of Bond as we know it as we push toward the new.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Ryan wrote: »
    I think they would be wise to bring back a few players from Eon. David Arnold should be at the top of the list. Daniel Kleinman. Per Hallberg. Alex Witt, second unit. Roger Deakins would be cool as well. Would he pass up a chance to work with a grand auteur like Cuaron?

    I've thought about this too. Keeping and/or bringing back some of the alumni would certainly help with the transition and help retain the "feel" of Bond as we know it as we push toward the new.

    As long as they are off screen alumni…
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I noticed ever since the new producers took over there’s been a lot of chatter about wanting to continue “Eon’s legacy”. I think after the negative blowback online to Amazon taking control, they’re gonna want to try to retain some of the Eon main crew just so that it doesn’t look like such a clean break from what came before. The only crew member we know for sure is not returning is casting director Debbie McWilliams, who announced her retirement after the news broke of Amazon’s takeover, unless they convince her to stay on for one more film.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I noticed ever since the new producers took over there’s been a lot of chatter about wanting to continue “Eon’s legacy”. I think after the negative blowback online to Amazon taking control, they’re gonna want to try to retain some of the Eon main crew just so that it doesn’t look like such a clean break from what came before. The only crew member we know for sure is not returning is casting director Debbie McWilliams, who announced her retirement after the news broke of Amazon’s takeover, unless they convince her to stay on for one more film.

    Yes. This sounds reasonable.
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    From a filmmakers perspective, sometimes a hard and tough deadline creates magic because there is no time to second guess your choices made from the gut. Also, I don't think holding onto the connections to the previous crews, that connect to the most current 007 films, gets us anywhere but looking to the past for comfort as opposed to forging ahead into brand new territory with Bond. Having just watched the new MI trailer I hope Bond does not get swept up into being a hi tech action monster and loses his fantastic but grounded spy thriller roots.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I’d still not ask David Arnold back. He’s already done five. There’s so many better composers out there that I’d love to see have a crack at Bond. I’ve always wanted to hear Bond scores by Jonny Greenwood and Alberto Iglesias.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    I noticed ever since the new producers took over there’s been a lot of chatter about wanting to continue “Eon’s legacy”. I think after the negative blowback online to Amazon taking control, they’re gonna want to try to retain some of the Eon main crew just so that it doesn’t look like such a clean break from what came before. The only crew member we know for sure is not returning is casting director Debbie McWilliams, who announced her retirement after the news broke of Amazon’s takeover, unless they convince her to stay on for one more film.

    Yes. This sounds reasonable.

    Just want to clarify that Chris Corbould has also said he would LIKE TO retire from effects work to direct movies. That hasn't panned out yet.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    I noticed ever since the new producers took over there’s been a lot of chatter about wanting to continue “Eon’s legacy”. I think after the negative blowback online to Amazon taking control, they’re gonna want to try to retain some of the Eon main crew just so that it doesn’t look like such a clean break from what came before. The only crew member we know for sure is not returning is casting director Debbie McWilliams, who announced her retirement after the news broke of Amazon’s takeover, unless they convince her to stay on for one more film.

    Yes. This sounds reasonable.

    Just want to clarify that Chris Corbould has also said he would LIKE TO retire from effects work to direct movies. That hasn't panned out yet.

    Yes. This is true. But wouldn't Corbould be more of an action director? Given his background.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    I noticed ever since the new producers took over there’s been a lot of chatter about wanting to continue “Eon’s legacy”. I think after the negative blowback online to Amazon taking control, they’re gonna want to try to retain some of the Eon main crew just so that it doesn’t look like such a clean break from what came before. The only crew member we know for sure is not returning is casting director Debbie McWilliams, who announced her retirement after the news broke of Amazon’s takeover, unless they convince her to stay on for one more film.

    Yes. This sounds reasonable.

    Just want to clarify that Chris Corbould has also said he would LIKE TO retire from effects work to direct movies. That hasn't panned out yet.

    Yes. This is true. But wouldn't Corbould be more of an action director? Given his background.

    He had a script in mind when I met him. It was something about two guys who go on a mission in south america or something. I didn't mean to suggest he would direct Bond.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    I noticed ever since the new producers took over there’s been a lot of chatter about wanting to continue “Eon’s legacy”. I think after the negative blowback online to Amazon taking control, they’re gonna want to try to retain some of the Eon main crew just so that it doesn’t look like such a clean break from what came before. The only crew member we know for sure is not returning is casting director Debbie McWilliams, who announced her retirement after the news broke of Amazon’s takeover, unless they convince her to stay on for one more film.

    Yes. This sounds reasonable.

    Just want to clarify that Chris Corbould has also said he would LIKE TO retire from effects work to direct movies. That hasn't panned out yet.

    Yes. This is true. But wouldn't Corbould be more of an action director? Given his background.

    He had a script in mind when I met him. It was something about two guys who go on a mission in south america or something. I didn't mean to suggest he would direct Bond.

    Oh, I see. That's cool.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I’d still not ask David Arnold back. He’s already done five. There’s so many better composers out there that I’d love to see have a crack at Bond. I’ve always wanted to hear Bond scores by Jonny Greenwood and Alberto Iglesias.

    I agree; plus I'm not sure he wants to do films anymore, he hasn't done one in years. He's also not far off retirement age; likewise Danny Kleinman will be 70 this year.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I’d still not ask David Arnold back. He’s already done five. There’s so many better composers out there that I’d love to see have a crack at Bond. I’ve always wanted to hear Bond scores by Jonny Greenwood and Alberto Iglesias.

    I agree; plus I'm not sure he wants to do films anymore, he hasn't done one in years. He's also not far off retirement age; likewise Danny Kleinman will be 70 this year.

    Are you saying 70 would be too old to compose and direct music ? Really ? He'd not have to hold onto a flying airplane from the outside in order to handle the music.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'm saying he doesn't seem to want to. And he's not near to 70 yet.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Arnold has expressed still being open to do Bond films. He’s pretty much disinterested in scoring films in general, but Bond is the exception and I think that’s really the fanboy in him that keeps him open.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Arnold has expressed still being open to do Bond films. He’s pretty much disinterested in scoring films in general, but Bond is the exception and I think that’s really the fanboy in him that keeps him open.

    To be fair, I wouldn't go around saying I didn't want to, especially when fans are asking me. I wouldn't want to disappoint with a no, and maybe he's genuinely open to doing Bond again, but he may also want to retire, which is fair.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I think he would take it in a New York minute .
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I think he would take it in a New York minute .

    Don't get me wrong I would love it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Arnold has expressed still being open to do Bond films. He’s pretty much disinterested in scoring films in general, but Bond is the exception and I think that’s really the fanboy in him that keeps him open.

    Oh has he? I haven't seen that, where's he said that?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    mtm wrote: »
    Arnold has expressed still being open to do Bond films. He’s pretty much disinterested in scoring films in general, but Bond is the exception and I think that’s really the fanboy in him that keeps him open.

    Oh has he? I haven't seen that, where's he said that?

    IIRC it was during that whole 60th anniversary thing he was a part of.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    Arnold has expressed still being open to do Bond films. He’s pretty much disinterested in scoring films in general, but Bond is the exception and I think that’s really the fanboy in him that keeps him open.

    Oh has he? I haven't seen that, where's he said that?

    IIRC it was during that whole 60th anniversary thing he was a part of.

    I had a quick look, and although it's five years ago, he is asked directly here and says yes he would. I'm sure you're right and he's probably said it again since.


  • Posts: 4,434
    Please no David Arnold. His scores are tired and played out. If it is Cuaron (and it is looking increasingly likely), then I hope he brings a new team. In fact he recently worked with Finneas on his show Disclaimer, who scored the entire series. I wouldn't mind if he got Finneas to do the film - he also has a connection to Bond for the purists....


  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    delfloria wrote: »
    From a filmmakers perspective, sometimes a hard and tough deadline creates magic because there is no time to second guess your choices made from the gut. Also, I don't think holding onto the connections to the previous crews, that connect to the most current 007 films, gets us anywhere but looking to the past for comfort as opposed to forging ahead into brand new territory with Bond. Having just watched the new MI trailer I hope Bond does not get swept up into being a hi tech action monster and loses his fantastic but grounded spy thriller roots.
    I’d still not ask David Arnold back. He’s already done five. There’s so many better composers out there that I’d love to see have a crack at Bond. I’ve always wanted to hear Bond scores by Jonny Greenwood and Alberto Iglesias.

    That's why I would be extremely disappointed if Purvis and Wade come back. They've done (00)7 movies. The writing in Bond has to change. Set story/screenplay formula or not. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that was one of the reasons that EON sold out. So many better writers for Bond, seriously. I'd even take John Logan or Phoebe Waller-Bridge back at this point. Not trying to get an anti-Purvis and Wade thread going again but they can be related to sticking to the past. Which Bond should not do. Don't have Bond go rogue right off the bat!
  • K2WIK2WI Europe
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    From a filmmakers perspective, sometimes a hard and tough deadline creates magic because there is no time to second guess your choices made from the gut. Also, I don't think holding onto the connections to the previous crews, that connect to the most current 007 films, gets us anywhere but looking to the past for comfort as opposed to forging ahead into brand new territory with Bond. Having just watched the new MI trailer I hope Bond does not get swept up into being a hi tech action monster and loses his fantastic but grounded spy thriller roots.
    I’d still not ask David Arnold back. He’s already done five. There’s so many better composers out there that I’d love to see have a crack at Bond. I’ve always wanted to hear Bond scores by Jonny Greenwood and Alberto Iglesias.

    That's why I would be extremely disappointed if Purvis and Wade come back. They've done (00)7 movies. The writing in Bond has to change. Set story/screenplay formula or not. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that was one of the reasons that EON sold out. So many better writers for Bond, seriously. I'd even take John Logan or Phoebe Waller-Bridge back at this point. Not trying to get an anti-Purvis and Wade thread going again but they can be related to sticking to the past. Which Bond should not do. Don't have Bond go rogue right off the bat!

    I probably wouldn’t be as disappointed by their return, but right now I think it’s a little unlikely (Wade seemingly hinted back in January that he wouldn’t be returning) and I do think we will need fresh blood on script duty anyway.

    The good news there, thankfully, is that to me there doesn’t seem to be much of a shortage of capable writers who could do it handily.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    If Purvis and Wade were the sole writers of Bond for the past 25 years I could understand the sentiment, but they never have been. There have always been other writers that came in and did their rewrites. According to them, QOS doesn’t even have their work despite the screen credit. I think Eon always fell back to them because they were knowledgeable of Fleming and that’s it. They’d lay the groundwork for others to step in and do their rewrites.

    Not comparable to David Arnold.
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