EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • Posts: 1,804
    Amazon has all the money in the world. Getting A list talent was never going to be a problem. At worst, the film would be too Hollywood-esque.
  • Posts: 1,975
    I'm optimistic because the last 3 bond films have not felt like James Bond films to me. Ready for a reboot.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    delfloria wrote: »
    I'm optimistic because the last 3 bond films have not felt like James Bond films to me. Ready for a reboot.

    Yep, it was time for a shake up.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Even if set in the present day, I believe they will go for something that has the same tone as Connery's first four films; they will strive for sophisticated fun that fits the world today but realizes the appeal of what has made the franchise so successful.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Even if set in the present day, I believe they will go for something that has the same tone as Connery's first four films; they will strive for sophisticated fun that fits the world today but realizes the appeal of what has made the franchise so successful.

    I'd be up for that!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    What are you talking about? Maybe you should reread my post.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    Yet you’re getting hot and bothered by a director who did a HP film back in ‘04, Children of Men in ‘06, Gravity 12 years ago, and Roma, a beautifully shot snore-fest in 2018.

    He hasn’t shot a feature in seven years and the only thing he’s done of note was the, again, beautifully shot, but tonally and narratively messy, Disclaimer for Apple.

    If we are being honest, the last solid film Cuarón has made was back in ‘06…so, @Mendes4Lyfe who should get over what?

    I honestly hope they cast a wide net for the Bond director. Lots of interviews and callbacks and poking and prodding…There are plenty of talented filmmakers out there brimming with ideas. Why bolt yourself to a guy that hasn’t made a feature film for seven years, and the last one to show flashes of action was made almost 20 years ago.

    I have to believe there are more directors being queried…
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    You do know these things to a fault, @peter If you were to pick a director for Bond 26, who would you pick?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    You do know these things to a fault, @peter If you were to pick a director for Bond 26, who would you pick?

    That’s the thing, @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , I don’t have one director in mind at all. But my hope was the best and brightest would be brought in for constant meetings to see who has the best vision for James Bond. And when I say the best and brightest, I mean bring in the straight up big action directors, bring in thriller directors, call in the big boys like Fincher and Nolan and Villeneuve and Cuaron. Bring in some women who have directed thrillers and action and suspense films. Bring in dramatic directors who also know how to create suspense and tension in their genre. Bring in the best of the best.

    Cast a wide net (like they’ll hopefully do with the man who will eventually play Bond), and see what’s popping and who has the ideas that are popping.

    I just find it hard to believe that Cuaron, a man who hasn’t directed a film in seven years, whose last project looked beautiful but was very messy, is the one and only.

    To me, I hope he’s one of many that they’re vetting for this most important role; not only is this person going to be launching a new James Bond film, not only will they be launching a new era after a long pause, they’re launching an entirely new team, new figureheads, since 007 was first released into our pop culture. This is a huge undertaking and to simply anoint one man without vetting others is concerning (IF true).
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    peter wrote: »
    You do know these things to a fault, @peter If you were to pick a director for Bond 26, who would you pick?

    That’s the thing, @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , I don’t have one director in mind at all. But my hope was the best and brightest would be brought in for constant meetings to see who has the best vision for James Bond. And when I say the best and brightest, I mean bring in the straight up big action directors, bring in thriller directors, call in the big boys like Fincher and Nolan and Villeneuve and Cuaron. Bring in some women who have directed thrillers and action and suspense films. Bring in dramatic directors who also know how to create suspense and tension in their genre. Bring in the best of the best.

    Cast a wide net (like they’ll hopefully do with the man who will eventually play Bond), and see what’s popping and who has the ideas that are popping.

    I just find it hard to believe that Cuaron, a man who hasn’t directed a film in seven years, whose last project looked beautiful but was very messy, is the one and only.

    To me, I hope he’s one of many that they’re vetting for this most important role; not only is this person going to be launching a new James Bond film, not only will they be launching a new era after a long pause, they’re launching an entirely new team, new figureheads, since 007 was first released into our pop culture. This is a huge undertaking and to simply anoint one man without vetting others is concerning (IF true).

    Yeah. These are valid points @peter
  • Posts: 4,999
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    I suppose it’s worth saying the last three Craig films actually have a wide array of tones, ranging from fatalistic darkness to good old fashioned Bondian humour, nostalgia, and even outright breeziness. So short of something really radical there’ll be some similarities.

    Personally, I’m still not sure we’re looking at a much needed course correction Bond movie (insofar as the Craig era was relatively successful and even if EON aren’t the ones to be helming the next film I think they’ll be looking at what worked from at least a couple of those films, which is fair enough). With Amazon at the wheel it’ll inevitably feel different though. I can see them retaining some broad ideas or attempt to harness some of what worked with the Craig era (at least in their minds) though.
  • Posts: 221
    we are probably looking at a 2028 release
  • Posts: 1,975
    peter wrote: »
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    Yet you’re getting hot and bothered by a director who did a HP film back in ‘04, Children of Men in ‘06, Gravity 12 years ago, and Roma, a beautifully shot snore-fest in 2018.

    He hasn’t shot a feature in seven years and the only thing he’s done of note was the, again, beautifully shot, but tonally and narratively messy, Disclaimer for Apple.

    If we are being honest, the last solid film Cuarón has made was back in ‘06…so, @Mendes4Lyfe who should get over what?

    I honestly hope they cast a wide net for the Bond director. Lots of interviews and callbacks and poking and prodding…There are plenty of talented filmmakers out there brimming with ideas. Why bolt yourself to a guy that hasn’t made a feature film for seven years, and the last one to show flashes of action was made almost 20 years ago.

    I have to believe there are more directors being queried…

    All of Cuaron's film's have had a particular style to them, much in the way Campbell's film's have. Both have been able to take an established franchise and bring fresh blood to it without losing the series trademark tropes and tone. Whether or not Cuaron is actually picked is not the point but shows us the kind of directors they could be looking to. Regarding the time lapse between films, there are lots of excellent directors out there who have not lost their touch over time.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    we are probably looking at a 2028 release

    And perhaps it's for the best.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited 5:02am Posts: 760
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    You're the one who's been constantly pushing for a return to Moore/Brosnan style campiness. Those films are decades (plural) old, let it go dude.
  • edited 5:41am Posts: 634
    peter wrote: »
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    Yet you’re getting hot and bothered by a director who did a HP film back in ‘04, Children of Men in ‘06, Gravity 12 years ago, and Roma, a beautifully shot snore-fest in 2018.

    He hasn’t shot a feature in seven years and the only thing he’s done of note was the, again, beautifully shot, but tonally and narratively messy, Disclaimer for Apple.

    If we are being honest, the last solid film Cuarón has made was back in ‘06…so, @Mendes4Lyfe who should get over what?

    I honestly hope they cast a wide net for the Bond director. Lots of interviews and callbacks and poking and prodding…There are plenty of talented filmmakers out there brimming with ideas. Why bolt yourself to a guy that hasn’t made a feature film for seven years, and the last one to show flashes of action was made almost 20 years ago.

    I have to believe there are more directors being queried…

    "Roma" as a snore-fest? What? I understand everyone has different tastes — not everyone likes melodramas — but that film creates such incredible contrasts in the class landscape of Mexico through these dynamic frames of background/foreground. Some of the best composition in a film in the last ~ten years, as far as I'm concerned. Snore-fest is a bit too aggressive of a term to use...

    A bit reminiscent of the "suburban melodrama director takes on Bond 23?" questions back then. Look how that turned out!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I wasn’t too enthralled with ROMA either. It’s a beautifully shot film, but it didn’t really leave much of an impression on me beyond that.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Away we go didn't leave much of an impression on me either. :-??
  • edited 10:17am Posts: 1,804
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    Yes, Hollywood has changed a lot since then.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited 10:35am Posts: 9,550
    BMB007 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    Yet you’re getting hot and bothered by a director who did a HP film back in ‘04, Children of Men in ‘06, Gravity 12 years ago, and Roma, a beautifully shot snore-fest in 2018.

    He hasn’t shot a feature in seven years and the only thing he’s done of note was the, again, beautifully shot, but tonally and narratively messy, Disclaimer for Apple.

    If we are being honest, the last solid film Cuarón has made was back in ‘06…so, @Mendes4Lyfe who should get over what?

    I honestly hope they cast a wide net for the Bond director. Lots of interviews and callbacks and poking and prodding…There are plenty of talented filmmakers out there brimming with ideas. Why bolt yourself to a guy that hasn’t made a feature film for seven years, and the last one to show flashes of action was made almost 20 years ago.

    I have to believe there are more directors being queried…

    "Roma" as a snore-fest? What? I understand everyone has different tastes — not everyone likes melodramas — but that film creates such incredible contrasts in the class landscape of Mexico through these dynamic frames of background/foreground. Some of the best composition in a film in the last ~ten years, as far as I'm concerned. Snore-fest is a bit too aggressive of a term to use...

    A bit reminiscent of the "suburban melodrama director takes on Bond 23?" questions back then. Look how that turned out!

    I'm glad you liked it. But for me, although every shot was undoubtedly a masterpiece in visual composition, the story was a superficial melodrama. Slow. Plodding. On the surface representaions of the cliche: pregnancy out of wedlock, cheating husband.....Two hours of someone picking up dog poop or going for walks didn't quite grasp me.

    And that's my main concern with Cuaron..,outside of HP (21 years ago), and Children of Men (19 years ago), storytelling takes a back seat to visual composition, and visuals only take me so far in a film. It has to be a marriage between the narrative and the the moving picture.
    delfloria wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    It wouldn’t surprise me if they stick close tonally Craig’s run. In spite of gripes made by a subset of fandom, Craig’s run was the most successful out of all the Bonds, with a strong emphasis on CR and SF. Amazon undoubtedly wants more of that than the Brosnan era.

    Both those films are over a decade old, let it go dude.

    Yet you’re getting hot and bothered by a director who did a HP film back in ‘04, Children of Men in ‘06, Gravity 12 years ago, and Roma, a beautifully shot snore-fest in 2018.

    He hasn’t shot a feature in seven years and the only thing he’s done of note was the, again, beautifully shot, but tonally and narratively messy, Disclaimer for Apple.

    If we are being honest, the last solid film Cuarón has made was back in ‘06…so, @Mendes4Lyfe who should get over what?

    I honestly hope they cast a wide net for the Bond director. Lots of interviews and callbacks and poking and prodding…There are plenty of talented filmmakers out there brimming with ideas. Why bolt yourself to a guy that hasn’t made a feature film for seven years, and the last one to show flashes of action was made almost 20 years ago.

    I have to believe there are more directors being queried…

    All of Cuaron's film's have had a particular style to them, much in the way Campbell's film's have. Both have been able to take an established franchise and bring fresh blood to it without losing the series trademark tropes and tone. Whether or not Cuaron is actually picked is not the point but shows us the kind of directors they could be looking to. Regarding the time lapse between films, there are lots of excellent directors out there who have not lost their touch over time.

    I'd say Cuaron has a far more distinctive and polished style compared with Campbell.

    And once again, I'm not against Cuaron, I'm just finding it very strange that Amazon and the producers have supposedly latched on to this one director, a guy who hasn't shot a feature for almost a decade, whose last film was a beautifully shot, yet narratively dull soap opera; whose last project was a narratively messy limited series for Apple.

    They're launching a whole new era of Bond films, and I expect(ed) they'll be interviewing a wide variety of talented directors and not hitching their ride onto one person (without investigating the talent that's out there).
  • Posts: 4,999
    You never know - if it is him maybe he’s got solid ideas for Bond that have impressed the producers. I understand Roma’s not for everyone but I can see why based on his previous films (especially Potter 3/his previous association with Heyman) why he’d be considered.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    007HallY wrote: »
    You never know - if it is him maybe he’s got solid ideas for Bond that have impressed the producers. I understand Roma’s not for everyone but I can see why based on his previous films (especially Potter 3/his previous association with Heyman) why he’d be considered.

    Bingo.
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