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To be honest I reckon the very first thing we'll see will be some sort of retrospective documentary on the Bond series in some fashion, or a 007 lifestyle TV show or something. I think the dramas will come later.
We’ll see. I can imagine a lot of these ideas not quite working in practice. And hey, I’m fine with some Bond documentaries.
Why not? Colin Farrell played the Penguin and it was the best decision he could have made.
Like I said :)
"If they’re going to do it I think it should be about an original character from the official movies (ie. a Jinx or Zukovsky type) who proves popular, has an actor and team willing to commit to developing said character in their own context, and aims at being distinct from the Bond films while still having that thread with the main movies."
Which is more along the lines of Penguin than what I see being suggested at this stage.
Not all actors are going to want to commit to such spin offs though, especially if we're at a point when Amazon hasn't even made a proper James Bond film yet. I also think part of Penguin's success was that that version of the character was quite distinct, witty (dare I say even weirdly likeable) and there was creative opportunity to expand on his story in a way which linked into the bigger Batman world Matt Reeves created.
If they can do such a spin off and make it worthwhile and expand on the Bond era they're in, I'm all for it. But it's not something you can just do overnight. I think they really need to concentrate on making these films first.
Is he? The make-up routine alone looks awful to be fair, haha.
I was sceptical of Penguin, but it seems like they went into it with the right ideas. I'm not sure if it's comparable to pitches about Moneypenny or Leiter spin offs in this instance.
I could be way off, but my suspicion is after they've finalised this deal in May, Amazon's questions about Bond will likely be how to get newer audiences (and indeed which audiences they can get/conceivably keep), how to drum up excitement about a new era, and how to keep Bond in the public consciousness (this is all secondary to creating an actual film incidentally). I think in practice Felix Leiter and Monepenny spin offs won't inherently do any of this, and I think these are concerns and possibly realisations which could come to light at this stage. Maybe a young Bond show might do it, but I'm not too sure. We'll see how far Amazon really go in this direction, but I can see them not doing so until they've got a film, and in the meantime just going with docs etc as you said. But I'm not sure
Or maybe they'd want to get Samantha Bond back in some capacity. Who knows? Caroline Bliss, this is the moment you have been waiting for since 1989!
The MI6 podcast has been *very* right with insider hints. They said a year or so ago that it was a distinct possibility Eon would sell, when I and I think others on this board truly didn't believe it. And then Eon sold.
The podcasters also hinted that Gregg did something that influenced the sale to Amazon. I still want to know what that is.
Ana de Armas got her Spin off too without Bond.
I know spinoffs can be a bit naff, but on the other hand I do kind of wish Harris had had a Moneypenny show of her own. I think she's great and could easily have been the star of something like that, with Whishaw appearing, sure. And it wouldn't have felt like she's just a Bond substitute because she's different to Bond, but also quite cool. I could imagine it being quite London-centric.
Eh? The time between was roughly 2 - 3 years fairly consistently before Craig.
Even within Craig this was also the case, more or less: two years between "Casino Royale" and "Quantum of Solace", then four between "Quantum of Solace" and "Skyfall" (would've been three if MGM didn't go bankrupt), then three between "Skyfall" and "Spectre", then really four between "Spectre" and "No Time to Die" (can't blame EON for COVID shutting down movie theaters).
QoS was obviously handicapped with the writers strike. And SP and NTTD were in need of refinement. SF had the best cohesive story. Really hope Amazon hires good writers!
The mere two-year gap between 'Casino Royale' (CR) and 'Quantum of Solace' (QOS) is quite impressive, especially given the numerous setbacks. The Craig era faced its share of challenges—strikes, studio issues, and even a pandemic—not caused by Daniel Craig or the oft-dismissed 'Babs'.
But now, with Amazon in the picture, we anticipate a barrage of new releases. Amazon, known for its relentless production of 'content', promises much. Yet, will this content captivate us? Will its release be a monumental event, sparking discussions that endure for months or years? Or will it be formulaic, churned out for subscription services, quickly forgotten amidst waning interest? Time will tell whether those who insatiably crave more new things will remain so pleased.
But that's apparently what Amazon wants, or at least, wanted.
Mission Impossible sort of did, but the audience were actively asking to know what happened with Ethan’s wife etc.
Exactly. All things considered the gaps weren’t bad and there was a lot of stuff they couldn’t avoid in the later Craig films.
Yeah. That's true. Audiences are now sort of....obsessed with continuity.
Yes. We are in an era where things get replayed and dissected to death over social media. In some ways it was easier in the '60s and '70s, before VCRs.
Can you imagine if the continuity errors in, say, TB were given the once-over in real time, as opposed to whatever people remembered seeing in the cinema?
"Wait, what color was his mask when I saw it in the theater?"
Today TB would be: "Wow, what slapdash filmmaking" and some sort of Internet meme.
Yes. That's the sort of era we live in. I just hope Amazon prepares better...if they're going to serialize the films again.
Bond was in better hands back then. Hard to compare to how it would be now. ‘62-‘89 contains the best Bond films.