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Bond Movie A vs. Bond Movie B (Diamonds Are Forever vs. The World Is Not Enough)

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  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    No brainer - The Living Daylights. Classic Bond that got the series back on track, with arguably the best Bond in Tim Dalton. Where as YOLT ditched Fleming, became a self-parody, had a pantomime Blofeld. Did have a cracking score though, but then so did TLD with some of Barry's finest scoring. Luckily a lot of the silliness that was originally scripted (and some of it filmed) was ditched in favour of a more serious tone. Thankfully. And a brilliant intro to the new Bond. Even Robert Brown convinces as M, something not achieved in the Moore films he appeared in. One of my favourites, I left the cinema happy, unlike my exit from AVTAK.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    On an emotional level this is an easy one for me and I have to go for TLD. Sorry YOLT! No offence meant.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    TLD

    But I still love YOLT.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    If you asked me which I'd rather watch, I'd say TLD. YOLT has some good bits, but TLD has its pancakes stacked higher.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    TLD.
  • The007SwedeThe007Swede
    Posts: 127
    TLD.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    TLD
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    TLD

    On the basis of its story making a lot more sense.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    TLD

    Due to the fact it is the better Bond film.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    TLD. Dalton does a better job here than Connery did in YOLT. Though I do love to say YOLT as a word. Yolt!
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    Once again no problem on this one.

    TLD quite considerably.
  • slyfoxslyfox
    Posts: 940
    Easy again. TLD is better in almost every way.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    YOLT is easily my prefered movie.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited July 2012 Posts: 12,837
    TLD-20
    YOLT-2

    :)) Nice to see (imo) the better film winning =D>
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    TLD.

    Even though YOLT is a good movie, it can compare to Daltons first.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Comparing Serra to Barry is comparing chicken s**t to chicken cordon bleu. Please. You're entitled to the opinions guys, but you don't know what good music, let alone Bond music is if you really think that.
    @00Beast has brilliant taste in music. Speak for yourself, mate.

    =)) that was good.

    Anyway, YOLT is indeed from the classic era and a movie that I love despite it's flaws, but The Living Daylights is a flat out better and more classic film.
  • W_PPKW_PPK
    Posts: 172
    TLD!
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    Just to even things up a little? YOLT! ;)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    The Living Daylights!
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited July 2012 Posts: 12,837
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Comparing Serra to Barry is comparing chicken s**t to chicken cordon bleu. Please. You're entitled to the opinions guys, but you don't know what good music, let alone Bond music is if you really think that.
    @00Beast has brilliant taste in music. Speak for yourself, mate.

    =)) that was good.

    Well he likes Rush, so I think that means he does. And just because he likes Serra more, how does he not know what Bond music is? I'm tired of people acting like if people don't agree with their opinions, then that person is a lesser fan.

    I prefer GE's score to GFs. I don't really like the GF music, not even the theme. I think OHMSS, MR, TLD, and more are better Barry soundtracks.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Comparing Serra to Barry is comparing chicken s**t to chicken cordon bleu. Please. You're entitled to the opinions guys, but you don't know what good music, let alone Bond music is if you really think that.
    @00Beast has brilliant taste in music. Speak for yourself, mate.

    =)) that was good.

    Well he likes Rush, so as far as I think that means he does. And just because he likes Serra more, how does he not know what Bond music is? I'm tired of people acting like if people don't agree with their opinions, then that person is a lesser fan.

    I prefer GE's score to GFs. I don't really like the GF music, not even the theme. I think OHMSS, MR, TLD, and more are better Barry soundtracks.

    Thanks @thelivingroyale and @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, good to know some people get the point of a discussion forum for crying out loud. What's absurd is that @SirHenryLeeChaChing thinks that my taste in good music is based off of one Bond soundtrack. Well, if that's the case then I might as well say the same thing for you for not liking the GE soundtrack.
  • DB5DB5
    Posts: 408
    The best Fleming short story as the basis for the best Bond film since OHMSS. TLD!
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    edited July 2012 Posts: 1,778
    Can we do Licence to Kill vs. Goldeneye next?
  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    TLD! One of my top five!
    Nevertheless I don't hate YOLT, I appreciate its many strengths.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited July 2012 Posts: 3,494
    I never said my opinion was better or worse than anyone else's. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I simply am saying that (1) it is my opinion that Serra has never written anything that is better than Barry or even in his league, I'll take Barry's worst soundtrack (oh wait, he doesn't have a worst soundtrack) over anything Serra has ever written. Or Arnold, Hamlisch, Kamen, and Conti (Rocky excluded) too. The only Bond soundtrack that I feel is completely in Barry's league is Live And Let Die. And (2) there is a certain flair and sound that Barry established, and Serra doesn't get that in GE, and that why you can't compare anything short of technical aspects because GE doesn't sound like a Bond movie short of the Bond cues. So if you are really thinking that GE sounds like Barry's work (it doesn't), then there's nothing more I can say that I haven't already said. You just don't get Barry or the "Bond sound" because if you did you'd know there was no comparison other than each scored a Bond film. And then I wouldn't find the opinion to be completely irrational. Whether you get it or not is not my problem.






  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    edited July 2012 Posts: 1,778
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    I never said my opinion was better or worse than anyone else's. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I simply am saying that (1) it is my opinion that Serra has never written anything that is better than Barry or even in his league, I'll take Barry's worst soundtrack (oh wait, he doesn't have a worst soundtrack) over anything Serra has ever written. Or Arnold, Hamlisch, Kamen, and Conti (Rocky excluded) too. The only Bond soundtrack that I feel is completely in Barry's league is Live And Let Die. And (2) there is a certain flair and sound that Barry established, and Serra doesn't get that in GE, and that why you can't compare anything short of technical aspects because GE doesn't sound like a Bond movie short of the Bond cues. So if you are really thinking that GE sounds like Barry's work (it doesn't), then there's nothing more I can say that I haven't already said. You just don't get Barry or the "Bond sound" because if you did you'd know there was no comparison other than each scored a Bond film. And then I wouldn't find the opinion to be completely irrational. Whether you get it or not is not my problem.






    Well said. Even the worst of the worst will have it's defenders and supporters. Anyone has a right to prefer GE's dreadful score but simply as a Bond score it's not good. The majority of it is dull, uninteresting, and boring. It sounds more suited for a political thriller only political thrillers don't have cheap techno or what sounds to be something from a porno (Bond/Xenia race). GE itself is not a bad movie but music in films is so important and underapreaciated that there are parts in GE I want to be engaged but can't because of the horrible and inappropriate music. James Bond music is supposed to be exciting, exotic, and lush. Serra's GE score was none of those things.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited July 2012 Posts: 16,351
    I bet Neither of you knew that those high pitched Techno hits used in the Majority of the score were samples taken from Goldfinger's soundtrack.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited July 2012 Posts: 16,351
    Murdock wrote:
    I bet Neither of you knew that those high pitched Techno hits used in the Majority of GoldenEye's score were samples taken from Goldfinger's soundtrack.

    those DADA sounds, the opening note from "James Bond back in Action Again."

    sorry did Quote instead of edit again. X.X
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    edited July 2012 Posts: 1,778
    Murdock wrote:
    I bet Neither of you knew that those high pitched Techno hits used in the Majority of the score were samples taken from Goldfinger's soundtrack.

    Those "samples" as you called them must've really been stretching it because they sound nothing alike. The only part of Serra's track I actually liked was the section used when Bond and Natayla are stuck in the helicopter and about to be blown up.

    And even if they are samples so what. Serra obviously butchered the source material. Vanilla Ice sampled Queen's and David Bowie's "Under Preasure" for "Ice Ice Baby" but does that mean it was a classic too?
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    Well this round is obviously going nowhere because The Living Daylights is our clear winner without a doubt!

    Next round begins now!

    The Man with the Golden Gun vs. A View to a Kill
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