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I would consider Tomorrow Never Dies as the absolute worst Bond film; it's pure sensationalism, not a drop of substance inside a sea of bad puns, bloated action sequences, poor acting and unintentional hilarity - it's really the worst result of what happens when the filmmakers try to pack all the boring cliches and Bond formula points possible into one film.
Meanwhile, I find Quantum Of Solace, although not perfect, to be an extraordinary Bond film with great style, theme, action and lead performance from Daniel Craig. It's no Thunderball but it's a high-class Bond picture.
I completely agree about Dalton. And people say he wasn't threatening.
Anyway, as for my original comment, I didn't mean Brosnan used those styles (like the more physical side), I just meant both blended different styles.
QoS.
Dalton not threatening? Look at the scene in TLD, with Pushkin in the hotel. How he takes the woman and wrangles her about before he takes Pushkin to the bed. That scene was insane. People must be crazy if they think Dalton wasn't threatening. And that is only one example.
Exactly. But believe it or not, some members on here actually think he wasn't.
That's pretty much my answer as well. Moore and Brosnan were not physical like the others, not dangerous. The Bond I grew up with WAS dangerous and that's what I want to see. 00's are not average agents, they are killers and physically intimidating. Dalton was the least physical of the 4 (including Lazenby) but you had no doubt he was a killer when you look at his eyes. Moore's abhorrence of these levels of violence is public knowledge, he rarely goes there and it's apparent this is not the focus of his characterization. So you expect that and at least he's consistent in that. Brosnan tries to be dangerous, but doesn't convince me in the way the others do. I found him, believe it or not, more believable as Taffin than Bond in that respect. He was edgier and more consistently so. In the Brosnan era, there was a lack of character consistency from film to film, he'd jump from one aspect to another and never settled down into anything after 40+ years that I recognized as Bond other than a "tick the box" approach which consistently (there's that word again) was the pattern. Whether Pierce himself or the scripts caused this is up for debate, but I sure someone will still think I'm bashing rather than giving an honest and I believe very well educated opinion.
Craig has Lasenbys physicality, Dalton's ruthlessness (although nobody can pull off ruthless Bond as well as Dalton himself), and in some instances, Connery's swagger.
Brosnan had Moore's comedic side, Connery's swagger and in some instances, Dalton's ruthlessness (but again, nobody can pull off ruthless like Dalton could).
Now common. I liked Brosnan as 007 but he is laughable as the tough guy in Taffin. All the time he raises his voice and overacts to the roof. At least with Bond he had a bit more restraint and had matured as an actor. The "me too" line in TND and the "I never miss" line in TWINE were more convincing than anything in Taffin.
I also liked his reactions to Miranda as the traitor in DAD ("the coldest weapon of all")
Look here to see what I mean. The dull grey suit makes him look more like a school teacher than Bond to me.
Compared to this:
anyway, dont get too far off topic
Guess we'll agree to disagree on that one. I thought he was tougher and edgier. Wasn't comparing his overall acting or saying that Taffin was better than say, GE or TLD. But I liked it better than DAD to be honest.
I meant least physical between Connery, Craig, and Lazenby. Definitely 4th, but overall he's still the man behind Sir Sean. He's had what Craig hasn't, the chance to be a conventional Bond. But Craig is right on his heels for me, and may surpass him yet if SkyFall lives up to the trailer and what I've seen he's capable of conventionally when he's been allowed.
Caroline Bliss. Horrendous Moneypenny. Probably one of the most unconvincing Bond/Moneypenny scenes in the series if I'm being honest.
"On the top of that was the weak action"
I would put the action in TND a few pegs above QoS if nothing else. The car park chase, warehouse fight are, while filler, better presented and better filmed than most of the set pieces in Quantum.
Yes. Every time she comes on screen I want her off. So unconvincing, especially in LTK. She lets out a fake as pyrite sob as she picks up the phone after the exchange with M. Pa-lease! Lois's MP would still be shaken, but not enough that she couldn't perform her duty, and she would have more than enough faith in Bond to pull through.
Im not sure if the comment is on that Youtube page but someone posted something along the lines of this, "Pierce Brosnan abilities as an actor never cease to amaze me. He plays the role of a sh***y actor to perfection". Whether you like him or hate him that was a pretty funny comment.
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Yes, I do love Pierce, don't get me wrong, he's a great chap. But I am on the fence about his acting. Some things I really enjoy him in, and then in things like this I wonder what the hell he was thinking. If anyone (@Creasy47?) can recommend to me some great work from Brosnan that really shows off his talents, I'd love to see it.
Compared to Lois, yes. Compared to Samantha, I'll take Caroline any day. She knew her place. The things that came out of Sam's mouth after GE were the antithesis of Lois' flirtations and closer to raunchy porn than class. It was almost as if she was trying to upstage Bond, and that should NEVER happen.
I saw bits of it years ago, but will definitely give it a rewatch sometime. Then there's Evelyn I think it's called. I have heard a lot of great things about that film.
Bah. Samantha wins hands down. Better actress, more screen charisma and better chemistry with the lead actor. I actually believed Bond and Brosnan enjoyed working together.
Exactly. With Caroline it was like a teen girl with a sad crush on a substitute teacher.
Sorry, but acting, charisma, and chemistry in this case is overshadowed by the horrid juvenile dialogue straight out of a porn movie, and Caroline is easily better looking if you've seen her other work. Sam's haircut- WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
I haven't seen CB in any other stuff to be fair but between the two as MP, Caroline is in for a kicking. I actually quite like the smutty "cunning linguist" line. Bond pulls it off well. Its 10x more convincing and suggestive than the "Barry Mannilow" nonsense.
Agree to disagree. I have no objection to smut from a female Bond character, but Moneypenny should be above that.