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TMWTGG is one my least favourite Bonds. It lacks in nearly all departments.
So let’s break it down;
Bond; Connery is back on form here, after sleepwalking though YOLT, whilst Moore is inconsistent.
Connery (DAF)
Action; DAF is pure spectacle and little substance I’m afraid, apart from the great elevator fight, naturally. So I’m going for TMWTGG; at least it has a bit of invention. Both lose points for giving us “comedy Sherriff’s”.
TMWTGG
Locations/Music; easy one this….
TMWTGG/DAF
Script; DAF
Plot; the space laser from DAF is impractical, to say the least. I actually quite like the plot of TMWTGG, shame it doesn’t concentrate on the Bond/Scaramanga duel.
TMWTGG
Screenplay; DAF is the first Bond film to have an uninteresting and uninvolving screenplay, in my humble opinion. TMWTGG has a dodgy middle third, but makes it up with first and final sections. So…
TMWTGG
All in all, then, I have to go with….
The Man With The Golden Gun
Diamonds is just too campy, silly characters, this movie set the stage for the 12 years of Roger Moore so we can give it props for that but I absolutely hated it. It was such a let down after the great OHMSS
Shady Tree and his Acorns
Tiffany Case turing into a Lucile Ball
The Slumber Funeral home gangsters, "I got a brudder". "The stiff-I mean the deceased, your brother?"
My most vivid memory of this hogwash of a film was the outrageous car chase thru Las Vegas. I remember the audience just howling and I was sitting there shaking my head during the whole time. A real crapper of a Bond film.
DAF ranks as the third worst (followed by DAD and MR)
It's head and shoulders above Diamonds, one of Moore's best, Moore still plausible in the role, something Connery had long lost by the time of his 1971 bow out
Golden Gun wins here like a greyhound on amphetamines over it's struggling rival
Also agreed with Dr. Metz. Casino Royale has flaws that are often overlooked. I think people get caught up in the theatrics of the film: the high octane action sequences and the melodrama. I say that because I was one of those folks, but then upon further viewing the film started to show cracks that got wider over time.
I'm right there with you on DAF. Great Bond fun all around. I always say, DAF should be treated as a standalone film; more of a natural successor to YOLT. In fact I think all Bond films should be viewed this way, since there is virtually no continuity in any of the films (though they tried with CR-->QOS). I gotta disagree with you on the OHMSS PTS fight though, that's a great introduction to Lazenby's Bond. OHMSS and DAF are top classic Bond films, albeit very different ones.
DAF vs. TMWTGG? DAF. I think Connery gives this one the edge.
and it doesn't surprise me that someone who calls themselves "Dr Metz" would feel so strongly about DAF
All the films have their flaws some more than others. DAF has such crappy Fx (note the matte work during the attack on the oil rig) and editing and lack continuiety in the storyline. They should have taken more care in post production given the hugh budget.
The only thing DAF has over TMWTGG is Tiffany Case. She is one of the better Bond girls.
I don't know how you can say that. She's so much more useless than Mary Goodnight (and how in the hell can you be more useless than her, you ask?) because she does, almost literally, nothing the entire movie. She shoots herself off of an oil rig, she such a stupid twit that she puts the real tape back in, for God's sake! At least Goodnight killed a henchman, and I really wish I was the button she backed into on Scaramanga's console.
I completely agree. Tiffany was just a brainless broad.
She somehow managed to outsmart the CIA <i>and</i> Bond with the diamonds in the casino. I'd say that's something.
At first she comes off as a rugged individualist and like the gal in the book which describes her as a young Lauren Bacall, but after the scene at her pool and after Bond slaps her she just turns into a Lucile Ball. Bumbling twit.
Now Jill St John looks WOW in a bikini but then what Bond girl doesn't?
The final score is DAF with 12 and TMWTGG with 11. One of the closest matches we've had yet. Many thanks to anotherbondgeek for breaking the tie!
All right, the next round will be a duel between:
On Her Majesty's Secret Service and The Living Daylights
OHMSS
Still one of the two best 007 movies made up untill now imho.
6. The Living Daylights (1987) - 8.5/10
7. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969) - 8.5/10
My #7 against my least favorite, so there's no contest here! TLD has a stronger first half than OHMSS, stays consistent with action and intrigue all the way through, has Timothy Dalton in a slam-bang performance, a better henchman, better music, and a more interesting plot, however complicated it may be.
TLD is good and Dalton does a bang up job. villians were weak but I liked the girl and the movie in general but it falls to OHMSS.
Good strong characters: Tracy, Draco, Blofeld, Bunt. Even Gunther was good henchman
The ski chase scenes , the one by moonlight and the one in daylight culminating with the avalanche is tops. The car chase is exciting and does not go overboard with the humor. The helicopter assault on Piz Gloria is just as exciting as the climax of The Guns of Navarone. The bobsleigh race and fight between Bond and Blofeld is full os thrills and heart stopping action.
The PTS with the fight on the beach is brutal and exciting with good editing.
The romance between Bond and Tracy, touching.
The downbeat ending helps to make this the cult classic it has become.
my vote goes to OHMSS
My second favourite of all time. There are bits in the first half of OHMSS which seem extraneous (they are not) while TLD is a rollercoaster from start to finish.
OHMSS is still top five though.
I love both films(they're both in my current top 004). Both debut films for a Bond actor. Both are faithful to their respective Fleming title literary source. Both feature important relationships between Bond and the leading lady. Both have fantastic John Barry scores. Both are loved by staunch fans of the series more than the general movie watching public.
I'm going to pick TLD for the following reasons:
001) Dalton is the more experienced actor of the two Bonds.
002) The villain's scheme and the romantic story are better integrated in TLD whereas in OHMSS, Tracy disappears from the story for an hour with no mention of her.
003) The Dalton/d'Abo chemistry comes off stronger and more believable than the Lazenby/Rigg chemistry.
There are aspects of OHMSS that I prefer to TLD:
001) The villains are stronger.
002) The final battle is better.
But on the whole, TLD gets my vote.