Bond Movie A vs. Bond Movie B (Diamonds Are Forever vs. The World Is Not Enough)

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  • Posts: 4,762
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I, too, rarely watch a film's commentary, but I watched GE one night, and restarted it with the commentary attached. Quite entertaining.

    Oh yeah, I love those where you can watch the movie with the commentary at the same time! I used to do that all the time on those select episodes of Batman the Animated Series where the directors/producers really liked that particular one.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I enjoy director and cast commentaries immensely, but more often than not they aren't done. I was so excited to hear the MI:GP commentary with Brad and Tom, but apparently Brad doesn't see the need for them. That's a shame, because The Incredible had hours of features and great commentary. Kind of hypocritical Brad.
  • Posts: 251
    DAD for me.
    The fencing scene is one of the best fights in the series, and Brosnan is a great Bond in an average movie.
    Sorry Rog!
  • edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Shoreline wrote:
    DAD for me.
    The fencing scene is one of the best fights in the series, and Brosnan is a great Bond in an average movie.
    Sorry Rog!

    I love the way Brosnan kicks the sword at the camera then catches the one Graves throws at him. That's epic!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Kerim wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    I think Clown porn is better then DAD..

    This statement is 100% accurate.

    150%.
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    Kerim wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    I think Clown porn is better then DAD..

    This statement is 100% accurate.

    150%.

    200%
  • edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189
    bondsum wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    I think Clown porn is better then DAD..

    This statement is 100% accurate.

    150%.

    200%

    :)) :))

    Nah DAD would win against clown porn. That would just be scary. At least I can laugh at DAD.

    Besides one of DAD's biggest saving graces (other than Broz and Dench) is Ms Pike.

    Ummm :D
  • Posts: 4,762
    TMWTGG: 23 votes
    DAD: 9 votes

    Oh wow, what an upset! Thank you for the eight other brave souls who voted for DAD with me! Otherwise this match would have gone absolutely nowhere (though it kind of already did that judging by the landslide votes for TMWTGG).

    Next match: Dr. No vs. GoldenEye
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    bondsum wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    I think Clown porn is better then DAD..

    This statement is 100% accurate.

    150%.

    200%

    No @bondsum, @Agent007391, this is spam.

  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    My vote will go to GoldenEye for its better use of satelites and tanks.
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    Goldeneye

    I love it. Almost everything about it is perfect. I went to see it in the cinema disappointed that Dalton was gone, but by the end Brosnan had won me over and had showed me that he was a great Bond. I think it gets a lot of unfair flack for being "formulatic", when so are almost all the Bond films.

    I like DN, but it just bores me. It was the first one I know, but I don't think it was as good as most of Connery's other films. FRWL, GF, TB and YOLT were big improvements imo.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    GE. It does and will always beat any Bond film it's up against in my eyes. This glorious movie brought me into the world of Bond, and not only that, it's heavily entertaining from Bond's dam entrance to his brutal fight with Alec at the end of the movie. I have to force myself to not watch it, or else I would do so non-stop, every chance I had.

    Having said that, DN is still in my Top Ten.
  • edited July 2012 Posts: 1,497
    Dr. No

    I've never much cared for GE, but all the fanfare on this site got me curious that maybe I had missed something. So I revisited GE a few months ago and thought it was ok. Having had some more time to process, I've found I dislike GE more and more. Brosnan is merely serviceable; he lacks a certain...charisma maybe? Not sure, but he never draws me in. I've also found Alec's whole scheme a bit convoluted and his motivations are unconvincing. The story really never shows Bond's and Alecs friendship, except for one scene, and it's rather forced. On a superficial level, the locations are pretty drab too.

    DN on the other hand, has a real intriguing mystery story. Connery is perfect, and his interchange with Dr. No is classic. DN is perhaps underated because it doesn't have the high production values and the formula and character haven't quite been established. But it is a damn good escapade of a movie.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Damn... The second best Connery versus the second best Brosnan... The first versus the first... The best supporting casts of both actors' tenures... I'm going to have to go with the one who's video game brought me to Bond, GE wins it for me.
  • Posts: 266
    Dr No.

    I think its the better film, i like both and both are in my top ten, but Dr No is just so cool imo and i think it edges it.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    For me it has to be Dr No, still one of my favourites - it may not have as much action as later Bonds, but I prefer story over action, it has style, great locations, great women, and considering the budget it looks fantastic. And it did kick the whole thing off!
    Plus Connery is excellent in the part.
  • edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Goldeneye.

    It may be cheesey but I just enjoy it a bit more. The soviet atmosphere really does it for me.

    Dr No is great though and definitely in my top 10.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Dr. No, it's a '60's classic.
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    Easily Dr No as it has so many classic one liners, especially the: "That's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had your six." plus the beautiful Bond babe Ursula Andress as Honey Ryder.

    Apologizies, Darth. I was just endoring actonsteve's comment.
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    JBFan626 wrote:
    Dr. No

    I've never much cared for GE, but all the fanfare on this site got me curious that maybe I had missed something. So I revisited GE a few months ago and thought it was ok. Having had some more time to process, I've found I dislike GE more and more. Brosnan is merely serviceable; he lacks a certain...charisma maybe? Not sure, but he never draws me in. I've also found Alec's whole scheme a bit convoluted and his motivations are unconvincing. The story really never shows Bond's and Alecs friendship, except for one scene, and it's rather forced. On a superficial level, the locations are pretty drab too.

    Agreed. I watched it for the first time for five years the other day and, ye, gods the dialogue.

    Its very "it says here" ie the actors are given such unnatural dialogue that it kicks you out of the story. Maybe repeated viewing nuls you to the clunky dialogue. I now rate it below TND and that is saying something.

    Dr No?

    Ah, its as mellow as the waft of frangipani on the Undertakers wind.

    It gets my vote.

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    DR NO
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Tricky questiom, i like them both just as much. But i gotta say

    Goldeneye
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited July 2012 Posts: 24,173
    GE

    I love both. At one time I was able to say that both the first and last Bond film were in my top 3. That was until '97 of course. ;-)

    Why so much love for GE? Man, need I spell it out? ;-) A six year wait, me being 13 and with a cinematic Bond experience finally well in reach (age 7 when LTK came and of course considered too young by the parental powers that were), the 90s feel all over it (and I had the best years during the 90s) and the exciting introduction of a new Bond (although I am a fierce Daltonite, as demonstrated by my awesome Dalton tattoo all over my genitals). All this can of course be summed up as nostalgia. How about the film itself?

    Very well, superb cinematography, cold but cerebral atmosphere, best Bond - M dialogue ever, interesting albeit controversial score, truly wonderful and often underrated theme song, BEST . OPENING TITLES . EVER!, tremendous acting (what a cast!), great story, amazing script, magnificent action, 2000 buckets of a little thing called fun, Isabella :x, Femke :\">, Sean ^:)^ and so much more. All of the above, IMHO of course. ;-)
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    Will go with GE, although not sure if this is an even match up?
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    Doctor No without question

    I don't care if Brosnan got Bond back on it's feet in 1995, did well and the overall release was a success. The fact of that matter is that, Connery started it all off in '62, got closer to Fleming that year than Brosnan ever was able, put in a very strong, almost immaculate performance and it was where it all started and it beats Goldeneye hands down, I know which one I'd watch If I had time. Andress wins over Scorupco and Wiseman was a far better adversary than Trevelyan and Bean. It's not always about big bangs and budgets and how much extravaganza they can fit into Bond, more so the overall quality, presentation and a story that grips the viewer and doesn't need excessive amounts of dollars spent in order to achieve it. Dr No works perfectly with regards to that, and is a clear winner
  • edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Here's a controversial view

    As much as I love Honey I'd chose Natalya ANY day of the week.

    (I'm a gentleman and I don't prefer blondes ;) )
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    Here's a controversial view

    As much as I love Honey I'd chose Natalya ANY day of the week.

    (I'm a gentleman and I don't prefer blondes ;) )

    Ah, now that's where I disagree, I love GE and prefer it to DN, but Honey>>>Natalya. Onnatop though...
  • Posts: 11,189
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Here's a controversial view

    As much as I love Honey I'd chose Natalya ANY day of the week.

    (I'm a gentleman and I don't prefer blondes ;) )

    Ah, now that's where I disagree, I love GE and prefer it to DN, but Honey>>>Natalya. Onnatop though...

    It's weird, I've been pondering why this is the case but I just like Natalya's 'homeliness' and how she doesn't need to 'flaunt' her beauty. That and the little smile and mole on her cheek.
  • Posts: 12,526
    I wouldn't want to upset any of them so i would let them all have a go at Rogue agent! ;) :)) =))
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @BAIN123, I couldn't agree more. That's what is really catchy about her, to me.
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