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Secondly Bond doesn't goofingly pose as one half of a courting couple :p
The problem I have with Diamonds is the direction. It feels really lazy and sluggish. Other films have a slow pace but the plotting keeps you interested. With Diamonds it just feels a bit too slow and most of the tension goes away. Last time I watched it I got bored once they entered the Navada desert.
The problems with DAF:
*Didn't become the revenge plot of OHMSS that we needed
*Tiffany is one of the worst Bond girls (thanks to Plenty for saving that aspect of the film)
*BLOFELD. IN. DRAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Charles Gray- Worst Blofeld ever
*Same tired Hamilton formula
*Stupid death for Blofeld that could have been fantastic if done on the salt mines
*Tiffany lived.
*Bond wore a pink tie and got beat up by two stick think women
*Irma Bunt is completely forgotten, as is Tracy, leaving Bond to be an often one-dimensional character
I could go on, and on and on.
First point agreed
Second point half agreed. I like Jill St. John (ummmm) but she does turn into a ditzy over-acting airhead fairly quickly.
Give me Natalya ANYDAY. Her one line "Anything except the interrption" is better than anything which comes out of Tiffany's mouth.
I know I've made this point before but how the hell did Shady Tee manage to open a coffin that had been burning in the furnace without hurting his hands? Seriously - it's about three bloomin' seconds later!
*Changing back the tapes Bond had gone to the trouble of getting switched
*Shooting a gun and knocking herself back and off the rig
Now how does a woman that examines fingerprints and call divulge that Franks is actually Bond do that stupid stuff?
I don't recall Fleming's Tiffany Case doing that :p
GE is horrifically overrated.
Diamonds has a kind of louche piano bar charm that I love.And the soundtrack is better.
Last time I saw Diamonds I almost fell asleep (I don't mind slower paced Bond films but Diamonds really drags). The climax on the oil rig has no real tension to it either.
I am comparing it with GE which I find formulaic to the point of tediousness. Because they wanted their fans back it is just a succession of Bond cliches set to kerplunky music.
GE is a very "cold" film. There is no warmth to it. The whole thing feels metallic.
There is a joie de vive to Diamonds and a campiness that I adore.
Nor does GE. Faffing around with a pen isn't exactly exciting.
Err
Err...yes it is. The quick cutting, the tense music, Brosnan's expressions all make it a far more suspensful scene. The only suspensful scene in DAF is ruined by an improbable outcome (Bond burning in the furnace).
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You must admit the soundtrack is better on Diamonds?
Were his expressions that bad?? I don't think so. What else was he meant to do?
I like the DAF soundtrack but I confess to finding the GE one a bit more memorable. I own the GE soundtrack :p Neither hold a candle to the other scores I mentioned though.
Of course its going to be 'cold'. Most of it is set in Russia :p
For me GE also has the better set of characters. The Bond girl isn't an airhead, the bad guy actually has a bit of physically about him, Bond's American contact is more entertaining and there's just more verve and tension.
*For the record I find the below an extremely soothing piece of music - probably one of my favourite tracks and far from "Kerplunky"
GE isn't really formulatic, especially compared to other films. It has all the basic Bond ingredients but it bought Bond back and it was fresh and exciting, it tries lots of new stuff too.
There is one bit that is too formulatic and that's the bit after the PTS. Bond in a tux with the DB5, shaken not stirred, Bond James Bond, big casino, etc. That's the only scene in the film that feels too formulatic.
It's meant to be cold, with Russia and all the cold war stuff. But there's comedy and lighter stuff too, there are colder Bond films.
I like the soundtrack, I think it's original and there's some great drum beats. But it's not for everyone, from what I've seen the soundtrack splits fans 50/50.
DAF just felt like a prototype Moore film, but not as fun and not as good. Connery was a shadow of his former self, and it has BLOFELD IN DRAG. You have your opinion and everything but I don't understand why overall, anybody would like DAF better than GE.
There you go.
Even though the comparison is unnecessary (and I do like DAF a good bit), here are the things which GE has over DAF:
-Better 007 (Pierce wins anyday against Connery)
-Better Action (DAF lacks really great action, except for the elevator fight and the car chase)
-Better Soundtrack (Yes, it is true; both are top notch, but I give the win to GE)
-Better Villains (Trevelyan slaughters Charles Gray Blofeld, and his crew of Xenia, Ourumov, and Boris equally slaughter Wint and Kidd and the other numerous minor henchmen of DAF)
-Better Main Girl (I hope I don't have to explain myself here)
-Better Theme Song (It's true!)
One bit though, and almost every Bond film has that. Apart from that it tries more new stuff than lots of Bond films. And even if you think it is too formulatic, do you really think that puts GE below DAF, which I have to point out again, has BLOFELD IN DRAG!
The one and only track from GoldenEye I DON'T like would be 'Ladies First'. Yuck.
I still have no idea why they removed the scene of Wint and Kidd actually shown killing Shady Tree by shooting him in the back. I see no reason why they would feel the need to remove it!
That's the magic of GoldenEye my friend! Everything fits together just perfectly!
You've got that right. I haven't spoken with you in some time, @00Beast, but my copy of GE on blu-ray is currently being shipped to me!
Yes it has been a little while, my friend! Good to be back in business! You are a lucky man, I imagine that the best Bond movie on the best quality to date will be a beauty to behold with splendor!