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You cant believe what a bucket of cold water this was in 1987. Since DAF we had terrific but cartoonish Bonds. Where the character, as much as I love Rogs' portrayal, was a one dimensional bon viveur gallivanting around the world with oneliners. With Dalton we had James Bond back. That sense of danger had returned. That steely glint in his eye. The fact that he would kill you as soon as look at you. That sense of menace we lost when Connery left. So many great scenes with TLD..Pushkin at gunpoint, the Prater Park, "Death to spies Minister.." It took a format and series and shook it to its core.
Goldeneye on the other hand....
I felt was a step backwards. The progress of the Dalton years was jettisoned to keep audiences cuddly. We had a Bond who had been the king in waiting so long he didnt need to try so he brought nothing new to the role, a frankly ridiculous story of a man stealing a weapons satellite which had been done so many times before, cliche after cliche to assure the unimaginative that this was still the unadventurous films we had before and the usual cliched explosians and gunfights. All jazzed up with a little bit of 90s self reverentialism ("sexist mysogist dinosaur").
GE is as reassuring and staid as AVTAK in its own way. Its afraid to go down the road trod before in case it alienates its audience. Its cautiousness taken to extremes.
Thats why nowadays its one of my least favourites.
Living Daylights wins
It's probably just me but watching this scene, he doesn't strike me as that dangerous. More like a handsome senior secondary school teacher shooing off a lovestruck pupil.
(urgh...that Barry Manilow line makes me cringe everytime I hear it!)
There are some effective scenes like the stuff with Saunders and Pushkin but if you want someone who looks like they WILL kill you in the blink of an eye go no further than the CR pts.
Plus, in fairness to Moore he DID have darker moments like Dalton.
6. The Living Daylights (1987) - 8.5/10
7. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969) - 8.5/10
8. GoldenEye (1995) - 8/10
GE
Brosnan as Bond
Trevelyn's a great villain
Jack Wade's funny
Q's hilarious
good plot
the game and the WiiMake
TLD
Dalton as Bond
three great villains
Kara Milovy is an awesome Bond girl
John Rhys Davies is a great ally, who should have been in later Bond films
a better soundtrack
the Ghetto Blaster
Caroline Bliss was a hotter Moneypenny
TLD wins.
GoldenEye FTW!!!
. People dont tend to have the killer in their eyes when they are relaxing.
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Anyway...
TLD vs GE.
- Better Bond (performance)
- Better Girl
- Better Villain(s)
- Better M
- Better Moneypenny
- Better Score
- Better Gadgets
- Better Look
- Better Tone
I could have saved myself time by saying that TLD is better in every way possible. TLD also feels like the series is genuinely moving fowards in a fresh new direction.
TLD = the best Bond film.
GE = a Dalton film, minus Dalton.
Just a few corrections ;)
GE is Brosnan's best, TLD is Dalton's best. Natalya is a great Bond girl, so is Kira. Sean Bean and Gottfried John are better villains, but TLD has Necros. GE has a greater M, TLD has a greater ally (Felix Leiter vs. Jack Wade). GE has greater TS and Song, but TLD has better gadgets.
One thing made me choose GoldenEye: Better dialogs.
That is the best joke i've ever read. =))
Im not sure it's fair to judge Dalton off of one scene. I pretty this was put in there simply to make him seem more casual as the film had been all action up until this point.
You sumed up alot of my feelings towards Brosnan in GE. Let me state that I believe that GE has easily one of the top 5 scripts in the series. The story isnt the problem with me, it's Brosnan and his uninspired and lightweight performance. Brosnan in GE along with Connery in YOLT are IMO the 2 laziest Bond performances in the series.
And I agree that Roger Moore's lighter and more humorous take on Bond should have ended with him. It had no business making it's way all the way up into 2002. Dalton started the change but sadly we had to move backwards for over a decade.
But GE was a super restart of the series and Pierce was very fine, and script was so sharp.
AAaaahhhh ... I go with Goldeneye. But it's close.
Goldeneye has strong villains, visuals, and a unique-ness to it.
The Living Daylights has amazing visuals, decent villains, and a grittier uniqueness to it as well.
Too close.
But if I was watching the Living Daylights, I'd pick it for the PTS.
If I was watching GoldenEye, I'd pick it for the TANK CHASE, OH GOD, THE TANK CHASE.
I vote TLD
for ever reason stated thus far :D
You got my vote anyway Tim