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I love Connery and it saddened me to see him in DAF; which should, by rights, have either been Lazenby's second film, or Moore's first.
19. Diamonds Are Forever
YOLT takes it for me. Good things about both but YOLT has my favorite Bond girl to this day, and DAF while having my 2nd favorite Bond soundtrack doesn't do the death of Tracy any justice.
Make it 18-10 for YOLT
DAF is 2nd, YOLT is 3rd.
18- 11, YOLT is in the lead
"Sir Donald has convinced the PM otherwise. May I remind you 007, that Blofeld is dead. Finished! The least we can expect from you now is a little *plain*, *solid*, *work*."
- Sir Miles Messervy, Diamonds are Forever (1971)
Preach on brother! I can see where people may think that DAF forgot its previous roots in OHMSS, but I agree with you more heavily because of this sole quote right here. It sums up anyone's argument about DAF not being revenge-motivated, and very nicely too. Also, for those who say that DAF is an abomination because it "forgot" OHMSS, let's back-track. Bond assumed that he killed Blofeld in Egypt in the PTS, I mean, it was practically an exact genetic replica of Blofeld after all, at least on the surface. M was the one who, in the quote above, mentioned that 007 needed to move on and continue his work as a double-oh. Thus, he goes on to what he expects to be a smuggling operation, working his way up the pipeline and ultimately reaching who he assumes to be Willard Whyte, and surprise surprise, it's Blofeld! At this point in the movie, he focuses on stopping Blofeld and killing him once and for all, which is exactly what the ending of OHMSS and the PTS of DAF suggested in the first place. Maybe the direction went about it the wrong way and Connery didn't have the edge for revenge like Lazenby would have, but I look past it regardless.
Oh no, Sean would've handled the revenge well, if there was any. NO IRMA BUNT. Blofeld is the "Charles Manson", but Irma pulled the trigger. That's what upsets me most, besides the mess of a script and the sheer lost opportunity. She doesn't get her dues, only disappearing into the ether, never to be seen again. Now that is an absolute crock.
Yes, I will agree there. Irma Bunt should have returned so that 007 could have his due revenge. I'd rather have Bunt than Bambi and Thumper whom, while still being somewhat iconic, are rather useless and just there for a gag. I'd rather see a showdown between Bond and Bunt anyday.
I don't disagree with you on that point. I'm simply saying that, when taken strictly on the "merits" (and I use that term loosely in regards to both of these films) of what is contained within the film, I can find more enjoyment out of DAF than I can from YOLT. DAF as a sequel to OHMSS is a complete and utter disaster. YOLT is similar in that respect, as it is a complete disaster of an adaptation of Fleming's novel. I simply can get more enjoyment out of watching a bad sequel to OHMSS than I can in watching what is probably Fleming's second best novel being butchered on the big screen.
19. You Only Live Twice
18. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. A View To A Kill
16. Diamonds Are Forever
Good points here which I try to concentrate on in my enjoyment of the film. The line that Top Gear speaks of hints at Bond's quest for revenge being fulfilled. Further in the spirit of fairness, he does seem to be preoccupied with killing Blofeld rather than capturing him. But they are just off hand references that mean nothing later on when Bond discovers Blofeld because we never get any real emotional content in a situation that should have tons of it. Not one single line from Bond's mouth in reference to Tracy, nor about promising Blofeld revenge and a day of reckoning, it's all just implied and while it's understood, it is done in a lazy and very unsatisfying way from there on out. Too lighthearted where it should not be. For all the griping about the PTS from FYEO, the end that the implied Blofeld character comes to is far more satisfying than crashing a baffle sub into the side of his cheap looking command headquarters while Tiffany's character continues to get laughs. The script should not be looking for laughs at this point, there had been plenty of that beforehand and it detracts from the moment which is supposed to be serious with Bond's revenge and trying to stop Blofeld's space laser from making Washington DC resemble an ant under a magnifying glass on a summer day. In comparison to QOS, which makes references to Vesper and builds bridges to it's predecessor as clearly as an unfinished script and time constraints on the filming schedule would allow, DAF is an extremely poor followup. In QOS you know Bond is hell bent on getting to Mr. White and at the truth, and you get one of the best finishes in the history of the series with proper closure which can be continued minus the Vesper storyline. Hence why I do not try to think too much about OHMSS while watching this film.
Another great point missing from the script. Unfortunately, OHMSS was Ilse Steppat's last film as she died December 21st, 1969, three days after OHMSS debuted in London. If they had wanted to work her demise in to DAF, that may have been the reason why they did not. I suppose they could have gotten a different actress to play Bunt if they had really wanted to.
- YOLT
I prefer the overweight, bored and tired Connery to that mishmatch of horse turd DAF
Deservedly so. >:)
This is true. If there's any film I'd like to see lose (other than GF), it's DAF.
It's about that time, so we'll draw this one to a close since most everyone has voted. So sorry to see DAF lose, I was hoping it would stand up against YOLT, but I guess not! Thanks Agent for tallying those votes, I appreiciate your effort!
All right, here's the next line-up:
A View to a Kill vs. Die Another Day
I have a feeling that DAD will get slaughtered, but let's see anyway!
laughable, silly, inept, ridiculous, cringeworthy, inappropriate James Bond, awful characters, terrible Bond girl and embarrassing overall watch, all said
I really don't know what to choose here, this should be a draw in all honesty..
I'll go with 1985's AVTAK as the 'winner' of this, it's oh so marginally better I feel somewhere deep inside