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Bond Movie A vs. Bond Movie B (Diamonds Are Forever vs. The World Is Not Enough)

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  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
    Posts: 2,189
    I would have to pick The Spy Who Loved Me here. I hesitatte to say that it is because Moonraker is over the top, because when you compare it to TSWLM, it really isn't much of a stretch, but Moonraker simply takes it too far. It's one thing to imagine that a crazed rich man could construct a mobile sub-pen disguised as an oil tanker, and an under-water palace to live in while waiting out the nuclear apocalypse, but it is quite another thing to imagine a crazed rich man developing a toxin which kills only humans and not other life, as well as secretly constructing a private space program and a personal space-station which is larger than the one the internationall comunity is still in the process of building today. The former is a matter of mere millions of dollars, while the latter is a matter of trillions. That is a level of unrealism that I simply cannot overlook, much like I cannot overlook the gaudy space suits they were. All told, TSWLM has a better story, a better Bond-girl, a better feel and cinematic texture, a seemingly identical villain,(Stromberg and Drax have very similar plans), and above all, a more believable plot.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    22-12, giving TSWLM a 10 point lead. MR's narrowing it down.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Overall, the villains are more entertaining, especially with the better Jaws performance, the soundtrack is better, Roger's performance hits the mark, the plot is driven better, the action is ten times better, and the pacing is much smoother and flows well.
  • VBM398VBM398
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    TSWLM
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    24-12, Spy keeps kicking ass.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited April 2012 Posts: 3,494
    00Beast wrote:
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Overall, the villains are more entertaining, especially with the better Jaws performance, the soundtrack is better, Roger's performance hits the mark, the plot is driven better, the action is ten times better, and the pacing is much smoother and flows well.

    Not to mention the TSWLM women are smoking hot in the looks and body department. Bach, Munro, Bisera, harem girls, the list is endless. Way better than the collection of dogs and oinkers MR presents. Chiles is very average. Clery is atrocious and flat. The astro women are ordinary specimens. What was the point? Their title and level of culture? Except for Emily Bolton, they are all below my dating standards for a fact, I see better looking women than these week in and week out. Very disappointing by the established standards.


  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    @SirHenryLeeChaChing: Oh indeed, TSWLM has much better looking ladies! Barbara Bach can't act, but man, she can "deliver"! Hahaha. As for the others, like Naomi and the log cabin girl, they are exceptionally fine as well!
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    My brain tells me TSWLM is the better movie...but why oh why do I have no desire to see that one? It feels overly long to me. I'm much more inclined to put on MR...maybe it's the Barry score, or the brilliant cinematography, or Hugo Drax, I'm not sure. It just feels more 'fun'

    MR ftw
  • DoubleOhhSevenDoubleOhhSeven
    Posts: 1,778
    Can I make a request? Goldfinger vs. Goldeneye.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    24-13

    @SirHenryLeeChaChing, I'm not sure if you voted or not.
  • slyfoxslyfox
    edited April 2012 Posts: 940
    It's controversial but TSWLM for me has always been one of the most over rated and dull Bond films in the series. It's low low low down my rankings.

    MR, though certainly not perfect, is a fun and entertaining globetrotting adventure. The location variety is vast, the music is superb, there's a fine array of women on board. For me, probably the 2nd best in the series after TB. Unlike @SirHenryLeeChaChing, I, like many here, rate Corinne Clery very highly in the series. I also find her death scene brings a surprisingly emotional tone to an otherwise light-hearted popcorn movie. Manuela is adorable too. Ken Adam's sets are literally out of this world.

    I even prefer Roger's performance in MR to TSWLM.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Overall, the villains are more entertaining, especially with the better Jaws performance, the soundtrack is better, Roger's performance hits the mark, the plot is driven better, the action is ten times better, and the pacing is much smoother and flows well.

    Not to mention the TSWLM women are smoking hot in the looks and body department. Bach, Munro, Bisera, harem girls, the list is endless. Way better than the collection of dogs and oinkers MR presents. Chiles is very average. Clery is atrocious and flat. The astro women are ordinary specimens. What was the point? Their title and level of culture? Except for Emily Bolton, they are all below my dating standards for a fact, I see better looking women than these week in and week out. Very disappointing by the established standards.

    Really now? I find that unbelievably harsh. And well, just unbelievable.

  • VolanteVolante
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    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Overall, the villains are more entertaining, especially with the better Jaws performance, the soundtrack is better, Roger's performance hits the mark, the plot is driven better, the action is ten times better, and the pacing is much smoother and flows well.

    Not to mention the TSWLM women are smoking hot in the looks and body department. Bach, Munro, Bisera, harem girls, the list is endless. Way better than the collection of dogs and oinkers MR presents. Chiles is very average. Clery is atrocious and flat. The astro women are ordinary specimens. What was the point? Their title and level of culture? Except for Emily Bolton, they are all below my dating standards for a fact, I see better looking women than these week in and week out. Very disappointing by the established standards.


    Really? In that case I wish I lived where you live.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Not to mention the TSWLM women are smoking hot in the looks and body department : Bach.

    Luds ? We need you !!
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited April 2012 Posts: 3,494
    Agent007391 wrote:
    24-13

    @SirHenryLeeChaChing, I'm not sure if you voted or not.

    Yes I did for TSWLM on the previous page.
    4EverBonded wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Overall, the villains are more entertaining, especially with the better Jaws performance, the soundtrack is better, Roger's performance hits the mark, the plot is driven better, the action is ten times better, and the pacing is much smoother and flows well.

    Not to mention the TSWLM women are smoking hot in the looks and body department. Bach, Munro, Bisera, harem girls, the list is endless. Way better than the collection of dogs and oinkers MR presents. Chiles is very average. Clery is atrocious and flat. The astro women are ordinary specimens. What was the point? Their title and level of culture? Except for Emily Bolton, they are all below my dating standards for a fact, I see better looking women than these week in and week out. Very disappointing by the established standards.

    Really now? I find that unbelievably harsh. And well, just unbelievable.

    Well, that's what I think about Clery's face and body. She's fugly. It has nothing to do with her acting in the movie which Slyfox pointed at, she was fine for the role. IMHO, the women in this movie were facially way below Bond standards. Otherwise, I played in bands from the late 1970's until the early 1990's. My metal band played venues from Massachusetts to Virginia for a few years during the 1980's. I have many friends from those days and some are quite famous. According to women back then I looked then somewhere between 1970's Peter Frampton and the late Warrant singer Jani Lane, basically I was a pretty boy with hair down to my elbows. Beautiful women love musicians and women loved me and that's how it was. Sometimes I found it all a bit unbelievable myself! I'm not ashamed of it and quite proud of my exploits so if you find all that "unbelievable", well that's not my concern.

    @ DC- Hahaha I've debated TSWLM vs MR with Luds on the side.
  • slyfoxslyfox
    edited April 2012 Posts: 940
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    24-13

    @SirHenryLeeChaChing, I'm not sure if you voted or not.

    Yes I did for TSWLM on the previous page.
    4EverBonded wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Overall, the villains are more entertaining, especially with the better Jaws performance, the soundtrack is better, Roger's performance hits the mark, the plot is driven better, the action is ten times better, and the pacing is much smoother and flows well.

    Not to mention the TSWLM women are smoking hot in the looks and body department. Bach, Munro, Bisera, harem girls, the list is endless. Way better than the collection of dogs and oinkers MR presents. Chiles is very average. Clery is atrocious and flat. The astro women are ordinary specimens. What was the point? Their title and level of culture? Except for Emily Bolton, they are all below my dating standards for a fact, I see better looking women than these week in and week out. Very disappointing by the established standards.

    Really now? I find that unbelievably harsh. And well, just unbelievable.

    Well, that's what I think about Clery's face and body. She's fugly. It has nothing to do with her acting in the movie which Slyfox pointed at, she was fine for the role.

    Search 'Corinne Clery' in google images and you may see a new side to her! I think there's a beautiful and mysterious quality to her. Very sexy.

  • identigraphidentigraph
    Posts: 1,052
    I would have to disagree with the Corrine Clery comments, she is a fine looking woman!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423

    Despite my growing admiration for Moonraker, my vote has to go with Spy, for being such a pure, unadulterated pleasure.

    The Spy Who Loved Me
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    JBFan626 wrote:
    My brain tells me TSWLM is the better movie...but why oh why do I have no desire to see that one? It feels overly long to me. I'm much more inclined to put on MR...maybe it's the Barry score, or the brilliant cinematography, or Hugo Drax, I'm not sure. It just feels more 'fun'

    MR ftw

    Nothing wrong with that reasoning at all. I always vote for the film that entertains me more in these matchups.

  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    @ Slyfox and Identigraph- Hey guys, you or anyone else can disagree with me, that's your personal taste. Personally, if it were the three of us sitting there in a bar full of women and you guys wanted her, I'd tell you go right ahead. There's nothing about her that I find attractive, that's all.
  • slyfoxslyfox
    Posts: 940
    Each to their own indeed, sir. I'm a fan of that French/Italian type European look.

    Part nudity kids - http://bondgirls4ever.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/corinne-clery-corinne-dufour/corinneclery027/
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Okay, we're at 24-14, still in Spy's favor.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    Agent007391 wrote:
    Okay, we're at 24-14, still in Spy's favor.

    And we'll wrap it up here now, thanks again for tallying those votes! As Agent has pointed out for us, The Spy Who Loved Me has taken the win over Moonraker!
    DoubleOhhSeven wrote:
    Can I make a request? Goldfinger vs. Goldeneye.

    Your wish is my command! This is the next round ladies and gentlement, enjoy!
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 3,262
    Goldfinger
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited April 2012 Posts: 11,189
    DoubleOhhSeven wrote:
    Can I make a request? Goldfinger vs. Goldeneye.

    AAAAARRRRGGGH!!!!! I hate choices like these :-t

    Honor vs. Isabella
    Shirley vs. Tina
    Harold vs. Famke
    Gert vs. Sean
    Guy vs
    Sean vs. Pierce

    Both are amongst my favourites BUT I'd have to go with :'( Goldfinger

    It's just a bit more iconic and classic. Plus Sean in GF is more comfortable than Pierce was in GE.

    Nice little bit of trivia - both films have A LOT of continuety errors. Goldfinger has 48, GF has 23
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    Goldeneye
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    Goldfinger.

    60's Bond ALWAYS trumps 90's Bond.
  • Agent005Agent005
    Posts: 562
    Goldfinger
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,169
    Goldfinger
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    Well, I really don't have to say much for those of you who know my tastes, but I'll say it anyway......GOLDENEYE!

    It beats the snot out of Goldfinger, which is my second least favorite in the entire series for many reasons, such as its boring pace, dull locations, few good action scenes, and worst of all......Miss Galore. :-&
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