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Bond Movie A vs. Bond Movie B (Diamonds Are Forever vs. The World Is Not Enough)

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  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
    Posts: 1,812
    Thunderball

    LTK is good but TB feels way more like Bond.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    Thunderball: 22 votes
    License to Kill: 10 votes

    OUCH!! What a slam-bang win from TB! Wow, I was expecting a much closer race than this!

    Well all right, let's keep moving along, but hoping that the next round will be well mixed!

    A View to a Kill vs. Quantum of Solace
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Sean smashes to victory again!

    For this it is obvious. QoS.

  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    A VIEW TO A KILL without a doubt, it is the better story and unlike qos it has original stunts.

    Qos suffers from redoing two stunts that have been done much better in the RM era than in DC's era (bailing a plane without a chute and boat racing). And for the rest the Bourne sequels beat qos in actionscenes every time which is kinda unforgivable when we are talking Bondmovies.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Jeez, it's bond movie vs bond movie, Bourne shouldn't even come into it.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited May 2012 Posts: 2,629
    QOS is going to go down in franchise history as forgettable. AVTAK is memorable for the wrong reasons.

    QOS for the ability to block it out of my mind easier.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    doubleoego wrote:
    Jeez, it's bond movie vs bond movie, Bourne shouldn't even come into it.

    Well QoS had too large a quantum of Bourne, but sadly not its qualities. O:-)

  • VBM398VBM398
    Posts: 154
    QoS. Not my favourite, but it beats AVTAK on my rank. but I still love AVTAK
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    SaintMark wrote:
    A VIEW TO A KILL without a doubt, it is the better story and unlike qos it has original stunts.

    Qos suffers from redoing two stunts that have been done much better in the RM era than in DC's era (bailing a plane without a chute and boat racing). And for the rest the Bourne sequels beat qos in actionscenes every time which is kinda unforgivable when we are talking Bondmovies.

    Original stunts huh? QoS actually has the Bond actor performing them however, while AVTAK has about 80% of Moore's stunt doubles, and Rog at 20% which would virtually be talking parts in the worry that he would exhaust himself if he so much as moved at 5 miles an hour.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    edited May 2012 Posts: 3,262
    I think we've already had this matchup, 00Beast. From February 4:
    00Beast wrote:
    Well, Octopussy beat GoldenEye by a landslide, sadly. Onward to the next round!

    A View to a Kill vs. Quantum of Solace

    In any case, my answer is the same as before.
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote:
    Both of these are in my bottom 3 but I'm picking AVTAK, mainly because of the John Barry score and Cold War-era ambience. Plus, I can more easily discern what's happening in its action scenes. Also, it has more of the traditional "feel" of what I expect from a Bond film even though I'd pick most of the other 007 films over either one of these.

    AVTAK
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    QoS is my choice. AVTAK misfires in more ways than QoS does.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    I like AVTAK just fine for the most part, but Sir Roger was obviously way past his prime. Kudos for the storyline being ahead of time, but without Walken and Gray and a Barry soundtrack that spawned a classic crossover song, there really isn't much and I have it at #17. The latter features a better lead actor, Arnold does a nice soundtrack, and it makes a solid companion piece to the classic Casino Royale as it does make you think about future battles with Quantum while wrapping his story with the CR characters. My pick is Quantum Of Solace.

  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    A VIEW TO A KILL without a doubt, it is the better story and unlike qos it has original stunts.

    Qos suffers from redoing two stunts that have been done much better in the RM era than in DC's era (bailing a plane without a chute and boat racing). And for the rest the Bourne sequels beat qos in actionscenes every time which is kinda unforgivable when we are talking Bondmovies.

    Original stunts huh? QoS actually has the Bond actor performing them however, while AVTAK has about 80% of Moore's stunt doubles, and Rog at 20% which would virtually be talking parts in the worry that he would exhaust himself if he so much as moved at 5 miles an hour.

    Yes the jump out of the plane looks very Un CGI, as in NOT. And it is a poor mans repeat of a far better stunt as performed in MR.

    The boat race that made NO sense whatsoever nor did it fullfill a purpose. Now talking about that boatrace in LALD which is pretty exciting and fun.

  • SJK91SJK91
    Posts: 1,310
    Both are not too good, but Quantum of Solace is better.

    Oh and: Craig >>>>>>>> Moore

    16. Quantum of Solace (2008) - 6/10
    17. The World Is Not Enough (1999) - 6/10
    18. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - 5.5/10
    19. Moonraker (1979) - 5.5/10
    20. A View to a Kill (1985) - 5.5/10
  • Signed_By_RogerMooreSigned_By_RogerMoore
    Posts: 643
    A View To A Kill

    Better in every way imo and my preference for Moore over Craig is an important factor. Though if I had to watch a Bond film after having not seen one in months and it was a toss up between these two, I would watch AVTAK just because it's more Bondian and enjoyable.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited May 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Haven't we been here before and done this one or maybe it was something very similar.
  • Signed_By_RogerMooreSigned_By_RogerMoore
    edited May 2012 Posts: 643
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Haven't we been here before and done this one or maybe it was something very similar.

    One day, every combination of battle will have been debated...I wonder how many there are (potentially)?

    EDIT:

    If my maths are correct (and I don't have much faith in them) we have some way to go
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote:
    I think we've already had this matchup, 00Beast. From February 4:
    00Beast wrote:
    Well, Octopussy beat GoldenEye by a landslide, sadly. Onward to the next round!

    A View to a Kill vs. Quantum of Solace

    In any case, my answer is the same as before.
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote:
    Both of these are in my bottom 3 but I'm picking AVTAK, mainly because of the John Barry score and Cold War-era ambience. Plus, I can more easily discern what's happening in its action scenes. Also, it has more of the traditional "feel" of what I expect from a Bond film even though I'd pick most of the other 007 films over either one of these.

    AVTAK

    Oh my, you're completely right! Sorry about that everybody, let's scrap this one and do a new one. And just for the record, QoS won for the 2 hours this went on!

    Thanks PKK for catching this! All right, here's the new round:

    Moonraker vs. A View to a Kill

    Hopefully this has not been done yet!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Ha, A View To A Kill would still lose. I vote for Moonraker!
  • Signed_By_RogerMooreSigned_By_RogerMoore
    Posts: 643
    00Beast wrote:
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote:
    I think we've already had this matchup, 00Beast. From February 4:
    00Beast wrote:
    Well, Octopussy beat GoldenEye by a landslide, sadly. Onward to the next round!

    A View to a Kill vs. Quantum of Solace

    In any case, my answer is the same as before.
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote:
    Both of these are in my bottom 3 but I'm picking AVTAK, mainly because of the John Barry score and Cold War-era ambience. Plus, I can more easily discern what's happening in its action scenes. Also, it has more of the traditional "feel" of what I expect from a Bond film even though I'd pick most of the other 007 films over either one of these.

    AVTAK

    Oh my, you're completely right! Sorry about that everybody, let's scrap this one and do a new one. And just for the record, QoS won for the 2 hours this went on!

    Thanks PKK for catching this! All right, here's the new round:

    Moonraker vs. A View to a Kill

    Hopefully this has not been done yet!

    AVTAK would have pulled it round ;)

    An interesting one, two films I enjoy. AVTAK is, for me, a really enjoyable movie, despite it's negative aspects. Theres still a lot about it to make it a really good movie.

    Having said that, Moonraker just has the edge in this one. Moore was in his prime. the locations are fabulous. Michael Lonsdale is brilliant. The script really showcases Moore's talents and his comedic portrayal. Just a great bond film. What I will say about MR is that Jaws return was a bit of a damp squib (though can see why they did it). Also think Lois Chiles is a bit boring.

    Moonraker it is for me :)
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    MOONRAKER
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    WTF, AVTAK gets two versus in a row? QoS. Oh, wait, wrong one. AVTAK.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    A View to a Kill

    In my opinion, the #3 best Bond movie of the series, following just behind FRWL and GE as my top 3. For a while I tried to put it lower in my rankings to make way for others, but I realized after watching it on Friday night that it really is my #3 favorite. Roger Moore is simply a beast in his last outing, Max Zorin makes for one of the best main villains in the entire series, the soundtrack is so hum-worthy, it's dark and eerie, and the finale pulls out all the stops! Blows MR out of the water in practically every way.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    edited May 2012 Posts: 3,262
    00Beast wrote:
    Thanks PKK for catching this!

    As Vijay from OP would put it, "No problem." ;)

    Anyhow my vote is most definitely for Moonraker. Moore's still in his prime here, Holly is an infinitely superior leading lady to Stacy, stronger villain in Drax, faster and smoother direction from Lewis Gilbert, far more exotic locations, a more insidious evil scheme from the villain and just a slicker, more fast paced and confident adventure film all-round. The only areas where AVTAK trumps it for me is in the title song department and I believe Zorin's French chateau is more impressive than Drax's French chateau(although both are gorgeous).

    Other than that MR all the way.
  • Agent005Agent005
    Posts: 562
    Moonraker
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited May 2012 Posts: 2,629
    What the deuce?

    To alleivate any confusion,


    MR over AVTAK
    MR over QOS
    QOS over AVTAK


    I'm picking MR over AVTAK because even doberman pinchers are terrified of looking at Grace Jones.
  • SJK91SJK91
    edited May 2012 Posts: 1,310
    Haha time to revote! Moonraker wins this one for me, but both are on the bottom of my lists. This one was very close as you can see.

    19. Moonraker (1979) - 5.5/10
    20. A View to a Kill (1985) - 5.5/10
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    MR. It could have been a good movie, whereas AVTAK never really had a chance.
  • 0iker00iker0
    Posts: 501
    22. Moonraker
    21. Die Another Day
    20. Licence To Kill
    19. You Only Live Twice
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. A View To A Kill (AVTAK beats with no problem Moonraker)
    16. Diamonds Are Forever
    15.The World Is Not Enough
    14. Goldfinger
    13. The Living Daylights
    12. Live And Let Die
    11. Thunderball
    10. Quantum Of Solace (If it had been QOS vs. AVTAK)
  • actonsteveactonsteve
    Posts: 1,492
    AVTAK

    I chose the beachboys music over Jaws in love with Dolly.

    I love them both however..
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