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By the end of the PTS i'm convinced Dalton is Bond. As the closing credits end on DAD, i'm still waiting to be convinced by Brosnan.
I'm convinced Brosnan is Bond when he looks down at Alec from the antenna in GE.
Other instances:
-walking out of M's office in GE
-floating elegantly in the water at the spa in GE
-Getting out the car after bashing Xenia in GE ("sweet dreams")
-walking to the hotel from the car park in TND
-Moving around in the office in TWINE
-Meeting with M in the tunnel in DAD
Never quite "got that" with Dalts for some reason. Its all to do with how he moved on camera.
Brosnan had some ok moments, but I could never point and say that is James Bond. To pick one scene, Dalton has the Pushkin hotel room. The way he moved, the way he looked, the way he owned the screen. Cold, calculating and in complete controll of what was going on around him.
Brosnan just never got a handle on Bond imo, too much time was wasted making his Bond out to be a tribute to Connery & Moore. Rather him let him figure out how he wanted to play Bond.
What about the scene with Dr Kaulfman? The little smile he gives to Dr K. Plus the exchange. "You have a doctorate in that too?" "No, no no...this is more like a hobby...but I'm very gifted", "oh I believe you".
Plus the final line "me too". If that doesn't convince you I don't know what will. THAT is Bond. Showing calm when under pressure and faced with death but also able to kill someone without hesitation.
Was watching TWINE the other night too. The "I never miss" line is great.
In agree with the scene with Pushkin in TLD though. Cracking stuff (though the scene with Red Grant and Connery in FRWL or the CR PTS is better in my book :p ).
Well, nothing from his era does, really. Like I said, he had some ok moments (confronting Kauffman, waiting for Paris, the whole printing press scene, escpaing from the bankers office). But they're just that, ok. The 1995 to 2002 era could have been so much better, had the series not been stuck in reverse gear.
Agree. HOWEVER I do feel Brozza had some great moments in the part. One thing is certain though - he's much slicker than Dalts is.
I rate TWINE extremely low on my Bond list. TLD, by comparison, I treasure as a solid, satisfyingly exciting Bond film.
That's true. But then that isn't necessarily a good quality.
Well it does help if you're going to be a star. Connery was slick too and he's continually seen as the king!
15.The World Is Not Enough
14. Goldfinger
13. The Living Daylights
TLD.
TWINE.
1. Goldfinger should have won the last round, it's amazing how some of the younger bunch around here disrespect the film and the music that made the series iconic. How times have changed...
2. The Living Daylights, easily. Before I state why, it often seems that people vote for a film based on the lead actor rather than the total experience each film brings. I am of the latter species, which is why I have for example OHMSS at #6- the worst Bond actor ever, yet it truly is one of the greatest Bond films ever. So in comparison to TWINE, TLD succeeds far better as a Bond film on many levels. If I may quote from Haserot, the biggest difference is both the script and the plot. Both operate on a storyline based on many levels of deception, but TLD on first and even second viewing keeps the viewer guessing who are the good guys and who aren't. Whereas with TWINE, the minute Bond encounters Renard and he utters the "what's the point of living" bit, it's over for everyone. Even Bond knows Elektra can't be trusted. Why doesn't he then notify M? So she can fool M next, the minute she calls M you know that that's going to happen. Then there's the melodrama of the relationships. Where on one hand we have a fresh faced and generally innocent Kara falling in love with Bond in a genuinely believable sense, in TWINE we have Bond wiping away a computer tear and acting like a lovesick fool to the point of screwing Warmflash and being disrespectful to M so he can be near Elektra. TLD has better villains (which says how underdeveloped Renard truly is), better music (although parts of TWINE's soundtrack are quite good and Bondian on their own), and is just flat out a superior effort that is generally considered a top 10 and in my case, a top 5 effort.
And he is! :D
I think Brosnan and Dalton are brilliant. But Dalton was a tiny bit better imo because he was more original with the part. Brosnan was slick and cool and really convinced me that he was Bond, but DAD let him down and I just prefer Dalton's Bond overall.
I don't see the fuss about the CR PTS. It has Craig talking quietly, it's shot in black and white for no reason and there's a good fight. That's about it.
Brosnan had some fine moments, the Kauffman scene is certainly one of those as is the killing of Elektra. But they were too far and few in between and he never seems too comfortable and natural. Dalton was much more convincing in that respect, although there were certainly some things he was not good at.
I gave you every break possible. You had better than a 50-50 chance. You weren't even close.
Seconded to all these comments. TLD, easily.
PTS: TWINE
Title Song: TLD
Villains: TLD
Action: Close, but I say TWINE
Girls: Neither are great, but in terms of looks, TWINE
Gadgets: TLD
Locations: TLD
Oh dip, it's a tie. Well, I'll step out of this one, I can't decide. I rank them both pretty closely.
I love both films and TLD is Dalton's best but TWINE is just slightly better.
To add to the conversation above, Brosnan always felt like Bond to me, from the opening of GE to the end of DAD. Dalton only felt like Bond in TLD. LTK, while still a good one, felt like any action hero from the 80's could of done that role, like Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Van Damme, or Seagal.
The Living Daylights by a landslide.