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TSWLM is a work of art. GE, if it weren't for the fact that the central character has been amusingly given the name James Bond, could easily join Brozza's other early straight to DVD action-thriller bargain-bin offerings.
And how did I know what you would vote for =))
Anyway, I love both but I voted for GE because I like Brosnan better than Moore (although Moore was great), and Sean Bean is in it, plus I like the plot better.
See? Opinions.
Here is an opinion: Police Academy 3 is a far superior film to Citizen Kane.
Conclusion: Some opinions are total nonsense.
It's like saying you prefer Zac Efron to Robert De Niro... perfectly acceptable, unless you say that Efron is more talented than De Niro, which is just plain wrong.
Nothing wrong with preferring an actor or a film over another.
If we only ranked films by quality, it would be pretty boring as everyone would put the same films at the top. Ranking films by personal preference is much more interesting, as in this case people may have totally different favorite movies.
This. And because the Moore era did more to engender the Austin-Powers-"dolphins-with-freakin-laser-beams" reputation that almost did in the entire Bond franchise.
The Police Academy analogy above does not make sense, because Police Academy never sets out to be a movie on the scale of Citizen Kane. Completely different genres: PA is a lighthearted comedy and CK is an epic drama. It's comparing apples to oranges.
GE and TSWLM is an acceptable comparison because both set out to make a really entertaining Bond experience of a movie: it's the same faire, same genre, same series.
....which is the perfect explanation for your opinion that GoldenEye is even anywhere close to being a straight to DVD bargain bin offering.
My point was that although I respect everyone's right to an opinion, that is something different from respecting that opinion.
If you see what I mean.
Yes, we can agree to disagree, but surely the point of this thread is to argue about the relative merits of the movies and debate our points of view.
He's only been away for a few days...
I love Spy but quite a few people on here would disagree with you and call Spy an overrated cash cow which remakes YOLT and features an "ugly" lead (Luds and Shark to name two). There are others who aren't as extreme...you'd be very suprised.
I'd put GE miles ahead of Brozza's pre-Bond work too. True its not Brozza's best performance but it has a cracking supporting cast and a woman who doesn't sound like a robot when she delivers a line. Every single time I watch it I come out smiling. Have done for the last 15 years and continue to do so.
Are you referring to the delectable Barbara Bach as sounding like a robot? Outrageous!
Any one who criticises Bond movies for being 'cash cows' is clearly loopy. They are cash cows - that is actually the reason they've carried on making them.
Any way, I know you love Brozza, which is fine. I just continue to find it bizarre the extent to which some people (not you) have little or no appreciation of Spy. It is a masterpiece. And yes it may well be a remake of YOLT, but remaking similar stories is what EON has essentially been doing for 50 years. Again, it is a bizarre criticism to throw at Bond.
Spot on response my friend.
Not really, mate. Some opinions may be nonsense to YOU, but they are not in actuality. I know some things are hard to swallow in regards to the beliefs of others that don't coincide with yours, but just let it go before we have another fight on our hands.
What is the point of the thread if not to argue over the merits of the films in question?
Thanks guys! Nice to have such good friends on here! Well everyone, you heard the men, it seems like GoldenEye (best Bond movie ever, cough cough!) has taken the win! <:-P
EDIT Whoops, almost forgot. Ahem, um well, let's see, the next round shall be:
Goldfinger vs. The Living Daylights
I almost needn't even explain myself, because any old hat around here knows my feelings towards Goldfinger. ;)
If not, let me just say that TLD outdoes GF on the action, the locations, the pacing, the soundtrack, and Bond himself. The only factor GF takes the edge on is the villains. As for the girls, neither main girl is a prize winner, but at least GF has Jill Masterson!
Even Oddjob's bowler??
I will actually have to give this some more thought. It's a toughin'.
@0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, it was indeed tough. Had to think about it for a little while.
There's just more that sticks in the mind