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IDK I used to like TLD alot more. It just hasn't aged well for me. I prefer LTK.
14. Goldfinger
13. The Living Daylights
I agree with you on these. I also thought JDB was FARRR better suited to play Jack Wade in GE. Somehow him as a villain doesn't really...feel right. BUT the kitchen fight between Necros/Green4 is pretty memorable and Dalton wasn't in sight.
Bond actor - GF
Bond girl - GF
Song - GF
Baddie - GF
Action - Hmm...TLD (but a close call)
I do find it (GF) overrated as well. And following on from FRWL, GF comes off as a bit wolly jumper by comparison. It feels like Bond has lost that edge that he had in FRWL.
There really is no contest, TLD wins easily.
While I completely disagree with your assessment of Dalts and TLD, both of which are excellent, I do agree that it is very weird to see so many people on a Bond forum placing TLD above GF. I don't understand where this dislike of GF is coming from. First GE wins over Spy in the previous round and now GF gets a kicking and placed below TLD.
Any outsider looking in and reading half these posts would assume the world's gone mad! GF is one of THE definitive Bond movies. Overrated? Total insanity.
The only thing I agree with is baddie and action.
I think GF gets bashed alot by the people who hate all the unrealistic films, since without it we probably wouldn't have had any. I like GF, it's my favourite Connery film.
I have to agree. GF is my #1, but TLD is a top 5 Bond film to me and many others. It isn't GF, but still a great film and a classic to me.
Errr... yeah. Right.
Just as long as you ignore a magnificent Barry song and score, beautiful iconic title credits, possibly the best PTS in the series, a endless string of classic lines, Connery at his physical peak, the DB5, Gert Frobe, Oddjob, some of the most iconic and memorable production designs ever from Ken Adam (including the laser room, ranch and Fort Knox sets), some of the best Bond girls AND vintage scenes with Q, M and Moneypenny.
TLD is absolutely one of my favourite Bond movies but there is no conceivable way in which I could ever describe it as superior to GF.
I mean seriously, what on earth is going on around here?
I don't think Sean was at his physical peak in GF! He didn't do anything the entire time! Was he flexing his muscles in his cell the whole film? The PTS one of the best? Ha! It makes no sense at all. The only good thing is the last bit, and Bond in a dinner jacket, which only Sean could pull off.
'Connery at his most peak of condition'
'endless string of classic lines'
'some of the best Bond girls'
Someone was obviously watching a different movie to me is all I can add
From the moment 007 (what could be the best James Bond ever) emerges from some water with a plastic duck on his head, it's all downhill, until near the very end and a decent sequence at the Fort Knox depository, it's a largely forgettable series release
I will not, and can not, buy into the hype this third Bond release generates sometimes
I love GF but I think Daylights is a better film. So what? I think GF is unfairly praised as the greatest Bond film ever in the media and everything, it's good, I like it and without it the series might not even have gotten this far, but parts of it are pretty boring.
That's sort of my point. I like GF, but I think people overrate it because it started the whole Bond formula that made the films so popular. But just because it started the formula in no way does it mean it was the first to perfect it.
Agreed. This is where the silliness really took off and yes, I agree, Bond did lose a bit of his raw edge in this film. Something about him lacked the serious determination he had on he 2 previous films.
Tough for the Daltonites when TLD is mostly a forgotten 007 movie and Goldfinger is the sheer classic that did create "the formula". Only in the mind of small group of people that are blind for any form of reality is TD and his two movies worth anything. Even Lazenby's effort is better remembered.
Even Sean Connery as 007 in itself is better than anything TLD has to offer.
Of course IMHO. O:-)
The 'silliness' (if that's what you want to call it) is part of what came to define Bond and make him such an enduring and global success.
I don't understand some people's obsession with 'seriousness', as if Bond would ever have survived had the films just been straight-faced, conventional thrillers.
This thread feels very surreal right now.
The Bond fans that hate Goldfinger - you couldn't make it up.
It's just a boring and mundane Bond release, that's gets a bit silly, overrated and some don't understand the hype of it all, that's not to say it's a bad release, i can see why some think it's of legendary status, that's all very well and good, but simply not for all
Quite possibly the silliest statement I have ever heard from a poster whose opinions I normally take rather seriously.
He isn't wrong. Everyone here knows I would fight a damn war for Sean, no matter the cost, but the film is just okay, not spectacular.
Even Brady himself, the epitome of Sean Connery appreciation, can see his third outing was a poor release and not above boring and mundane, go and have another watch and see for yourself
It's just how some feel about it, there's no sense in lying
GF has very good scenes like the golf match, the dialogues of Goldfinger, the golden girl and the fight with Oddjob, but as a whole TLD has a better and more exciting story.
So TLD for me.