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Same here.
Great, and we didn't even need a fan and tub filled with water.
I think quite a few people round here like myself are sick of seeing it regarded as the best Bond ever, film critics are so clichéd when they review it and go on about it being the quintessential 007 entry. As for SC at his physical I'd argue that would be FRWL, that fight with Grant knocks the one with Oddjob into a cocked hat.
Yes it does have a great score and one of the best PTS' of the series but after that with the exception of tense enjoyable meet up with Auric and the laser table sequence, GF sends me to sleep. Adam's work goes without saying he always excels. TLD is much better paced and as TD being better than SC in the film maybe not as comfortable in the role but much more IF like, the way Sean is in FRWL. Both FRWL and TLD have a nice cold war feel, GF just reminds me of Austin Powers these days.
Oh dear, the Bond snobs have come out ;)
I don't think GF is the VERY best Bond film quality wise (that goes to FRWL) but it's certainly ONE of the best and has a firm spot in my top 5 along with FRWL, OHMSS, CR and GE.
SC is more charismatic than Dalton (I couldn't care about being more Fleming-like)
Gert Frobe, while not my favourite villain, makes more of an impression than the miscast JDB.
Honour Blackman beats Mariam D'Arbo hands-down
Jill Masterson
Jill Masterson
Shirley Eton
Shirley Bassett
Last time I saw GF I really enjoyed it and it certainly did NOT send me to sleep
GF is well regarded by the critics for a reason - because it's good.
I've also read Dalton considers GF to be one of his favourites too.
They should read the book. It puts flesh on the characters. They might find it more interesting then.
My theory is that this generation who came to it via DvD or TV isn't used to the slowness. They aren't used to the story unfolding at a leisurely pace. They want zap! pow! Now!
Also it hasnt got the freshnes it had for us oldies. Mainly because being a blueprint its been copied so many times before.
But that doesn't explain why the same people enjoy the likes of FRWL or TLD. Both those films also have a "slower" more leisurely pace.
I came to Bond via TV/DVD (or in my case Nintendo) yet I consider GF to be one of the best.
For the record I don't think the film is "perfect" though. There are flaws.
I always find the final countdown on the atom bomb amusing - the numbers and ticks make no sense.
I never said anything about it being too slow or boring, just that it's slow in comparison to TLD, is all. It's still an excellent film. I just don't see why people make such broad, insane assumptions about the generalization of people, when I'm not in that boat of a comparison in the slightest.
I am discussing those who don't like it. Not those who do...
I suppose some people just consider it too "cheesey" and too "kid orientated". However compared to later entries its pretty moderate.
I love 'oldies'. By the way, they're classics. Just because I find GF stagnant at times doesn't mean I don't like slowly progressive or complex films.
Ian Fleming frowns on you.
Well I'd hardly call fighting a giant squid, a character named "Pussy Galore" or going into a "Castle of Death" conventional yet Fleming came up with all of those.
While they were more "grounded" compared to most of the films there was still a "quirkiness" about them that made them different (and popular).
The difference being that Fleming always found a way to explain or make us accept his quirkiness, while the films (Guy Hamilton's specifically) all feel like "You will accept this because we say so", which just makes me want to punch someone.
I've read the book (which I actually like better than the film, my favourite one out of the Bond books I've read), and I still think TLD is better and GF is good but a bit boring.
Have you read CR?
Yep. I've read CR, MR and GF. I need to start reading TB soon, I want to get througthe Blofeld trilogy.
I didn't come to it through the DVD's I'm 40 years old and first saw it on T.V back when Bond films were a rarity on British TV, 2 a year if you were lucky so don't tar me with that brush. I've probably been a Bond fan a lot longer than many on this forum. I admit I'm not enamoured as I was as young boy by the series but I certainly didn't just get into these films in the last decade, I have a 35 year history with Bond long before the bloody internet turned all of us into experts.
For sometime I've felt GF was not all the great entry it's made out to be if that makes me a Bond snob then so be it. I much prefer the return of Mr Young for Bond 4.
As for not liking slow paced films I think you'll find I was commending a slow paced film in the films you've watched thread, I've no problem with a slower pace but GF just about stops at times, FRWL is the Bond film that should get the quintessential 007 tag not GF.
Damn, you're beating me. Too many other fantastic books to read.
Can't agree on the action being a close call, I'm afraid. I mean Goldfinger only boasts Fort Knox really. Everything else, when compared against TLD's super-charged and energetic action, doesn't make the cut. In fact, GF is one of those Bond movies which doesn't hold much action to its name, while TLD is chock-full of entertaining action left and right.
GF is a great Bond film, and if you would've asked me a year ago I would of picked it, but it's moved down in my ranking system over the past year.
P.S I never found Flemings books to be particulary grounded in reality, GF is still a good adaptation of the source novel.
TLD- 22 votes
And '80s Dalton trumps '60s Connery!
Next round: Live and Let Die vs. Moonraker
The more enjoyable film IMO. LALD has Jane. MR has everything else. ;-)
Anyway, LALD. I love most of MR, I just hate what they did to the Jaws character, really drags the film down imo. LALD is a little outdated, but it's still a fun film, with Roger giving a great 1st performance.
Better 007 performance: LALD
Better Villains: LALD
Better Soundtrack: LALD
Better Pace: LALD
And on side notes, LALD also does not include half the cheese that MR does.