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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Roll on New Years Day!!!! <:-P A great way to kick off 2014!!!! So excited to see the next 3 instalments!!! \:D/
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Sometimes, though, there are blu-rays that you can only get in certain regions. 'Hellraiser 3,' my favorite in the series, is only available in other countries, and while I've heard of a Japanese version of it (which is Region A), I don't know if it comes in the English language, plus, it's a ridiculous price.
    Precisely my point. If certain people are so hard up on piracy and so called "illegal" distribution of "copyrighted" content, then make everything region-free so that people don't have to cut corners to enjoy certain films or other content they enjoy. But again, as it's all for money it'll never happen. I sometimes forget that I think like an actual human being, and not a businessman whose bodily systems only function via the the deposit of coins and dollar bills into a machine where their heart used to be.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, that's why it sucks viewing these things from a consumer point of view, because it's bullshit, whereas on the businessman side, it's an excellent idea. But see, instead of making a select few 100 or so people out there buy a certain blu-ray at a ridiculous price overseas, why not make it region-free/all regions and sell it all over the place? Guarantee you'll sell more copies and make more money, then, and everyone who wants it can easily get their hands on it. Win/win situation.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    edited December 2013 Posts: 6,396
    Mark Kermode summed up best. If you want to eradicate piracy, then release your film/TV show in all formats on the same day.(Cinema/DVD/Streaming etc) and give people the choice of how and where they want to watch it.

    Incidentally, this is what Ben Wheatley did earlier this year with A Field In England. It was shown on Film4 in the UK and was available to buy on DVD and BluRay the same day it hit the cinemas.

    However, this won't catch on because film studios and television networks are greedy and want the maximum profit available to them. They can't see the long term effects.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    WillyGalore wrote:
    Mark Kermode summed up best. If you want to eradicate piracy, then release your film/TV show in all formats on the same day.(Cinema/DVD/Streaming etc) and give people the choice of how and where they want to watch it.

    Incidentally, this is what Ben Wheatley did earlier this year with A Field In England. It was shown on Film4 in the UK and was available to buy on DVD and BluRay the same day it hit the cinemas.

    However, this won't catch on because film studios and television networks are greedy and want the maximum profit available to them. They can't see the long term effects.

    Yeah, I've followed Keromde's support of the all-format releases on day one, and agree with his thoughts and the statistics. He interviewed someone who I believe was a distributor for A Field in England, and she reported that there was no visible sign that their profits were harmed by releasing the film on all formats simultaneously. I don't think the big studio heads would take that kind of risk though, as they are worried chiefly about profit and that profit only, not getting a film out there for the masses to enjoy above all, as they must think there isn't as much in it for them that way. Do they not realize that there are more ways to get money from your film other than at the box office? I would be curious to know though just how much profit the studios get from the sales of their films in the disc format and through online streaming.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    edited December 2013 Posts: 6,396
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Mark Kermode summed up best. If you want to eradicate piracy, then release your film/TV show in all formats on the same day.(Cinema/DVD/Streaming etc) and give people the choice of how and where they want to watch it.

    Incidentally, this is what Ben Wheatley did earlier this year with A Field In England. It was shown on Film4 in the UK and was available to buy on DVD and BluRay the same day it hit the cinemas.

    However, this won't catch on because film studios and television networks are greedy and want the maximum profit available to them. They can't see the long term effects.

    Yeah, I've followed Keromde's support of the all-format releases on day one, and agree with his thoughts and the statistics. He interviewed someone who I believe was a distributor for A Field in England, and she reported that there was no visible sign that their profits were harmed by releasing the film on all formats simultaneously. I don't think the big studio heads would take that kind of risk though, as they are worried chiefly about profit and that profit only, not getting a film out there for the masses to enjoy above all, as they must think there isn't as much in it for them that way. Do they not realize that there are more ways to get money from your film other than at the box office? I would be curious to know though just how much profit the studios get from the sales of their films in the disc format and through online streaming.

    People aren't stupid. Give them the choice and the vast majority will still rather see a film for the first time on a cinema screen before watching it on their television. Take Gravity as an example. If it had been released across all formats yesterday, I would still go see it on the big screen before popping in to my local ASDA on the way home to buy the BluRay copy.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    edited December 2013 Posts: 4,012
    30 new photos released (some photos might be considered spoilers by some people):
    [url="
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/the-30-pictures-from-sherlock-youve-been-waiting-nearly-two"]
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/the-30-pictures-from-sherlock-youve-been-waiting-nearly-two[/url]
    I love how Mary is often shown in grey, just like in the story. Also, I might be seing things, but the leaves embroidered on her dress look a bit like feathers.

    And there is some new footage on BBC's latest trailer (again, might contain spoilers):
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    This is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my life:
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I saw that earlier, Brady, I loved it.

    "Go to sleep, and when we wake up, I'ma hit that thing again. Promise."

    You know the ladies are in heaven over stuff like this.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I saw that earlier, Brady, I loved it.

    "Go to sleep, and when we wake up, I'ma hit that thing again. Promise."

    You know the ladies are in heaven over stuff like this.

    That was the best part. :))
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited December 2013 Posts: 5,767
    Yeah! "Cumberbatch is in town!" :-))

    Aah thanks @Brady, that clip made my day already :-)!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That one's probably the best I've seen, but there are others. I think there's one with Gary Oldman reading R. Kelly lyrics and Liam Neeson reading some of the lyrics to 'Baby' by Justin Bieber.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    edited December 2013 Posts: 3,144
    It has been a hard days night. And I have been working like a DOG and so on
    The late Peter Sellars Quoting a hard days night by the Beatles in the style of William Shakepsear I could not find a clip anywhere but it's worth a listen if you can turn one up.
    Edit it's there on YouTube but it won't let me post a link !!!.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    edited December 2013 Posts: 4,012
    Interview with Cumberbatch and Freeman about S3:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/features/sherlock-series-3-benedict-cumberbatch-and-martin-freeman-provide-teasers-for-the-biggest-comeback-in-british-television-8988545.html

    EDIT: stuff just keeps showing, synopsis for episode 2 released:
    "Sherlock faces his biggest challenge of all - delivering a Best Man’s speech on John’s wedding day! But all isn’t quite as it seems. Mortal danger stalks the reception - and someone might not make it to the happy couple’s first dance. Sherlock must thank the bridesmaids, solve the case and stop a killer!" - See more at: http://sherlockology.tumblr.com/post/69181523063/cumberbatchweb-sherlock-the-sign-of-three#sthash.AiblN6XR.dpuf
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Saw that 'Sherlock: Series One' was on sale for $20 on blu-ray. Just bought it! Might get the second one and have another marathon before Series 3 releases.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    The second episode is five minutes longer, running for an hour and a half, the usual time. Odd that.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    The Hounds of Baskerville on BBC3 at 9pm tonight.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    This is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my life:


    :-)) =D> ^:)^ What a great sport!
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Sandy wrote:
    I usually use filmon.com @Creasy47.
    How does it work @Sandy? I´m not sure I will hold out till I get the discs by the end of January...

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    edited December 2013 Posts: 4,012
    boldfinger wrote:
    Sandy wrote:
    I usually use filmon.com @Creasy47.
    How does it work @Sandy? I´m not sure I will hold out till I get the discs by the end of January...

    You simply go to the website, on the left there is a list of channels and countries. If you click on UK live TV you'll find BBC (here's the direct link for BBC1), ITV, etc just click on the one you want to watch. The quality in nothing special but the good thing is that it works.

    EDIT: I almost forgot, new photos and interview:
    http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/tv/exclusive-sherlock-preview
    http://sherlockology.tumblr.com/post/69255194906/empty-hearse-photos
    http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/benedict-cumberbatch/28363/benedict-cumberbatch-on-sherlock-series-3-the-rooftop-fall-irene-adler-elementary-star-trek-into

    EDIT 2: And more:
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/447196/New-series-three-Sherlock-images-show-Benedict-Cumberbatch-and-Dr-Watson-together-again
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Going off of that interview, I figured Sherlock wouldn't make it some grand spectacle of an entrance: he would simply re-appear in Watson's life at an awkward/inopportune moment. I can't wait to see how Sherlock did what he did.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    @Creasy47 I bet he's going to show up at the most inopportune possible moment. I can even bet when it's going to be
    when Watson is proposing to Mary.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited December 2013 Posts: 5,767
    Sandy wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    Sandy wrote:
    I usually use filmon.com @Creasy47.
    How does it work @Sandy? I´m not sure I will hold out till I get the discs by the end of January...

    You simply go to the website, on the left there is a list of channels and countries. If you click on UK live TV you'll find BBC (here's the direct link for BBC1), ITV, etc just click on the one you want to watch. The quality in nothing special but the good thing is that it works.
    Thanks a lot @Sandy, now there´s no way for me past watching the new episodes as soon as they´re on.
    Sandy wrote:
    http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/benedict-cumberbatch/28363/benedict-cumberbatch-on-sherlock-series-3-the-rooftop-fall-irene-adler-elementary-star-trek-into
    I love this bit:

    Do you know how they grew up?

    It’s interesting, in the first series I said to Steven [Moffat, co-creator], ‘So what’s his back story?’ and he went ‘You don’t want back story’. He didn’t like to really do it because a lot of what we try and do in art is to sort of deepen the mystery rather than expose cod reasoning or post-Freudian parameters to define, that is why someone is like that because they were damaged by someone breaking their pencil in front of their face in the school room.

    I think as an actor you have to have a framework to hang certain things on, so I had a discussion very early on with Steven and Mark [Gatiss, co-creator] about what they thought, because I was intrigued, because I’m a young Sherlock and because we’re starting his story, I wanted to know. It’s very easy to bandy terms like autism, sociopath, psychopath incorrectly, and OCD and all sorts of qualities of modern psychology or tropes or psychological behaviours or disorders and just go ‘That’s who he is’, and I think it kind of limits it.

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Dr. Watson updated his blog. The new post contains absolutely no spoilers for those who have watched both seasons. It contains some food for thought, however. What do you think about the Cluedo thing?

    http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk/blog/26april

    On a side not I met someone called Reichenbach this week, it was very odd.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I can't stop thinking about how he did it. Interesting to see him bring up Cluedo and allude to the series two finale, in a way. I say the day before the series three premiere, if we're all on talking about it, we should throw out our last theories and see if any of us come close.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited December 2013 Posts: 12,837
    I think he chucked Moriarty's body off the roof, which was wearing a Sherlock mask that Moriarty had used earlier when he'd kidnapped the kids. And Molly was involved some how.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @thelivingroyale, that's interesting, I never thought of that. I feel like a mask is the most viable answer since we do see his face after he passed away. But then again, when he's on the edge, he's speaking with John on the phone, and you see only him, so I'm not sure. I know Molly was involved somehow, just can't figure out how exactly or how he worked it out. I also think John getting hit by the guy on the bike makes something come into play, as his view is blocked when he hits the ground and he's a bit fuzzy after that.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    I'm thinking he used a mask because Moriarty must've had one. When Sherlock went to see the little girl she was terrified, Moriarty had managed to trick her into thinking Sherlock had kidnapped her. This makes me think that he must have had a mask.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    I'm thinking he used a mask because Moriarty must've had one. When Sherlock went to see the little girl she was terrified, Moriarty had managed to trick her into thinking Sherlock had kidnapped her. This makes me think that he must have had a mask.

    I haven't seen the finale in a little while, so my memory is fuzzy, but could this be part of the reason why Sherlock chuckled and hopped off the ledge before he was going to jump the first time?
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    edited December 2013 Posts: 4,012
    I'm going to put my theory under a spoiler tag just in case.
    Sherlock did jump:
    1. it was not a dead body because he moved his arms and legs;
    2. the body on the floor with the head covered in blood was Sherlock;

    The thing is, we see Sherlock jumping but we don't see him hit the floor. In my opinion Sherlock's fall was cushioned and the entire thing was hidden from sight by the truck. In fact I think that garbage truck is one of the key elements (after all, Sherlock smiles only after the truck is in place). Watson, in the meanwhile, was knocked by the cyclist. When he looks again Sherlock is on the floor and the truck is gone. When he tries to approach, someone keeps him from taking Sherlock's pulse and he's taken directly into the morgue. That is when Molly comes in (although I think she arranged the entire thing). She declares the obit and takes care of the "body". Another thing, I watched the commentaries of ASiB and THoB today and in the first the producers pointed out the article in the newspaper Sherlock is reading and say it has relevance to the final episode. The title is well visible and it is about a historical hospital (St. Bart's I presume) starting renovations soon. I had never noticed it but it may give us a few more clues.

    EDIT: Sue Vertue (producer) just tweeted:

    sue vertue ‏@suevertue
    Peel those eyes again guys, there may be something of interest on BBC One later this evening #sherlocklives

    New trailer?
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