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  • GerardGerard
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    Third trailer :

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Great trailer. :)
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Very psyched for this! I'll see it in the theater here in Feb., and will then buy the dvd. I'll have to stay off this thread in the meantime; I really don't want it spoiled for me.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Gerard wrote: »
    Third trailer :


    Brilliant trailer!!!
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    Now that was really worth waiting for probably the best new TV that's been on over Christmas and New Year .
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Just saw the special! Incredibly happy with it. I thought they did it brilliantly. I'll happily watch it several times. Kudos to everybody involved with this story. And beautifully filmed. =D>
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I'll be watching it sometime in the next few days. Happy to hear it was well received by Sherlockians. I've read some mixed responses from others, but they don't share our...obsessions, do they?
  • jackdaggerjackdagger
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    Watched it last night. I liked it a lot, actually!
    The period piece was so well done, and I love the way it was tied into the narrative. I actually was surprised at the "mind palace" twist, because I just assumed it was a stand-alone special.

    Also, When Moriarty says, "It's not the fall that kills you, it's the landing", was anyone else picturing Andrew Scott plummeting out the window in Spectre? XD
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    I will have to watch it again for the episode to make any sense to me. But Cumberbatch was once again brilliant again.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I loved it, a very clever episode. :)
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    It bears some interesting similarities to Spectre. One might even say that this last episode is the "Spectre" of the Sherlock series. Although better executed, naturally.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Was it broadcast already?!? Good thing I already ordered the dvd.
    Is there any way to still watch it online?
  • RC7RC7
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    Really well executed and nicely tied to the series.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I honestly never thought of SPECTRE even once while watching this Sherlock.
    And I love the way it tied into the series; I agree, @RC7.
  • RC7RC7
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    I honestly never thought of SPECTRE even once while watching this Sherlock.
    And I love the way it tied into the series; I agree, @RC7.

    I didn't think of SP either. I genuinely think this is still one of the best bits of TV we export from the UK.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited January 2016 Posts: 12,480
    Sherlock is superb. I still love the Jeremy Brett traditional series, but this one takes everything to another level with its writing and additional contemporary tones. I do enjoy it. By the way here is an interesting article on this special episode DOES CONTAIN SPOILERS - https://girlmeetssherlock.wordpress.com/2016/01/02/review-the-abominable-bride/
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Was it broadcast already?!? Good thing I already ordered the dvd.
    Is there any way to still watch it online?
    BBC iPlayer for sure. In the U.S. it was shown on PBS Masterpiece Theater - I have not checked it, but you may be able to see it again there.

  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Brilliant!! =D>

    Lots of blinks to the Canon!! Between seasons they reread all Doyle again and again!! Magnificent! Congratulations and just waiting for more!!!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Yes a lot of links to Doyle. :) I think Gatiss and Moffat are really keen on the original stories. I think they made this special in such a way as to give many kinds of fans pleasure. I bet they also had a lot of fun writing it!
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    Yes a lot of links to Doyle. :) I think Gatiss and Moffat are really keen on the original stories. I think they made this special in such a way as to give many kinds of fans pleasure. I bet they also had a lot of fun writing it!

    Yep, one of the best bits of telly over Christmas/New Year. Loved the traditional setting and was completely taken aback when it linked into modern Sherlock, like many I thought it was just a stand alone special.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I thought it was a stand alone special too but the way they incorporated the traditional with the contemporary setting was masterfully done. I'd love to see more traditional episodes from this production team and cast but won't be surprised if this was just a one off. On a side note, Gatiss really needs to get involved with script writing duties for Bond.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
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    I thought that this was probably the best episode of Sherlock so far. When I heard that they were doing it in Victorian London I knew there would be some sort of twist to it. I haven't really thought of Gatiss writing a Bond, maybe he should, he's a Bond fan too I believe.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I think it's even better on the second viewing, so many little clues in it, from
    the start, to explain what's happening. With so many funny lines. :)) just
    a great series.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    I loved the lifting of lines straight from the previous episodes, especially 'just wear the damn hat!', will have to watch again a some point.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I loved when Mrs Watson said " am I supposed to sit here all night doing nothing?"
    To which Watson responds " No !, I'm sure we'll be hungry later" :))
    In other words," Get in the kitchen woman" later when Watson lists the possible
    Enemies of England, after several he adds the Scottish ! :D
    It's just a very clever and funny series. =D>
  • GerardGerard
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    Just watched the episode, and I loved every bit of it, from the tribute to the great Jeremy Brett series (still the definitive version in my book) to the resolution of the case (I didn't see it coming, but then I would be a poor detective). A great addition to a great series. Moffat and Gattiss may take their bloody time doing it, but we're bloody glad they do if it allows us to watch such quality television.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Wow, what a special...special that was! I've done a mini review/reaction to the episode below, but have put it in spoiler tags for those that may come into this thread having not watched it.
    Honestly, if you would've told me we were getting what we got in this episode, I don't think I would have believed it.

    I assumed the special would have no relation to the present developments of the series at all and would be a closed-off Victorian adventure, but everything about the special subverted expectations in my head in the best way possible.

    I knew going in that it would connect to the present after I accidentally stumbled upon that minor spoiler, but didn't know anything beyond that. I loved how Moffat and Gatiss masterfully weaved an adventure in the past and present, and gave us so many clever treats throughout.

    I was screaming to high heaven when we got a recreation with Ben and Andrew of the Reichenbach incident. When Andrew debuted as Victorian Moriarty I had my fingers crossed that we'd get it, and I was so giddy and grinning ear to ear when the scene came up. All the cast work so well off one another that it is a treat to watch them do anything.

    I love that we got treated to recreations of three superbly important Doyle scenes form the canon here in the special, those being Watson's injury in the Battle of Maiwand, the first meeting of Watson and Holmes and the aforementioned Reichenbach face-off.

    I think the special also did a wonderful job of portraying the varying personalities of each of the characters in the separate timelines. John is very much of his time in his Victorian timeline, though I do feel that Doyle's Watson would be a bit more progressive than he is portrayed here, and Molly or Dr. Hooper as she is known must cleverly navigate the gender expectations of that time in history. You also see the signs of women hoping to change the climate of a male-dominated society so that there is a space at the table for them too.

    My brain was bursting at all the things that were unraveling in the past and present, some of which turn out to be entirely artificial, and this cleverly recreated the confusion and sensation of bafflement that would come from solving such a case in the first place.

    I also love the constant paranoia that perplexes the Holmeses of both timelines, as they are haunted by what they feel is Moriarty's return. We are constantly unsure about whether these fears are just in Holmes' head, or if something far more sinister is going on.

    I never expected that we'd get a good ten to fifteen minutes of actual present day content here, and I was beyond pleased by it all. We got more background on Sherlock's usage of drugs, and the show did a wonderful job of portraying Sherlock for what he is, a user and not an addict; it personally infuriates me when people twist it. It also nicely shined a light on Mycroft's true care for his brother while also setting up the future episodes. Sherlock has one hell of an imagination, and I think it would be wise for him to pursue some fiction writing, no?

    All in all, a roaring success that I'm very pleased with.

    Moments that made me swoon/shout with glee:

    *Fat Mycroft
    *Feminist Mary (both past and present)
    *Holmes and Mrs. Hudson chastise Watson for his portrayals of them in his stories
    *Victorian Watson calls out Paget
    *How the maze at the manor morphs into Sherlock's steepled fingers for the transition as he gets the case.
    *The pips!
    *Holmes and Watson's talk of love and isolation while at the manor (truly one of my favorite scenes they've produced yet). I saw this as the Mind palace, Victorian styled version of the conversation Holmes and Watson have in the cafe while looking for the cabbie killer in the very first episode of the show.
    *Holmes and Moriarty in Baker Street
    *The reveal of the mystery behind the case (clever, not expected)
    *The Reichenbach Falls
    *The ending, as Holmes looks out the window and the scene changes from the Victorian landscape to that of the present day.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited January 2016 Posts: 5,767
    Got the DVD today :). Watched it. I´m still in awe and probably will be for some time :).

    Can´t wait to watch it again. The
    time jumps
    were hilarious, and so brilliantly put together.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Didn't even realize this had aired already. Going to have to make an effort to watch this soon.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    As expected, it was even much better the second time I watched it :-). I love how they put so many little things in it that make it all the more worthwhile to watch it many times. And the way the
    two time periods
    are interlinked is nothing short of brilliant.
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