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Connery has that look in his eye playing Bond totally aware at all times.
the real question is... every james bond vs daniel craig
Up against Connery, Lazenby, and (why the hell not?) Brosnan too, Craig wouldn't stand a chance. Moore and Dalton might get in their way a bit, but other than that, it would be a sound drumming.
In a true fight, this is probably the case, yes. Dan's Bond has the most fleshed out combative style, and is also the most resourceful. It would be interesting to watch he, Sean and George's Bonds fight, as that's where the real decision would lie. It's just that Dan's Bond has that mix of composed style and untamed ferocity that would make him a rough opponent to survive: he knows what he's doing and he can do it a mile a minute. He's also durable as hell, and will keep coming at you even if you nick him right in the face.
His Bond has that tough, brutal image for a reason.
Sean's Bond took some hits too at times, like TB's boat fight, but you felt the man you were watching was trained and could really bring it even when he was swarmed by six men. Some times I think Dalton's Bond missed the days when they went over combat. He can hold his own at times, but others his fighting style lacks finesse or thought. I'll need to rewatch his films and really try to decide how I feel about his Bond as a fighter.
All jokes aside, that's how I would see it going down. He wasn't much of a pugilist. I see him waiting up on a vantage point, watching the carnage unfold, WA2000 and 10 mile half squint at the ready, working his way through a packet of Lark. As for the other 5, my money would be on Lazenby. He was a fast mover in the fights, proof that you don't need to be build like a brick outhouse to fin a fight.
He is the best with cards and with knives.
Craig's Bond is by far the most durable, but I wouldn't say he's overpowered. In each major fight he takes it as much as he dishes it, and ends up covered in blood and scars of his own. CR and QoS show this especially, though Patrice doesn't hold anything back and Hinx is a force of nature that shows Bond his limits. He's a trained man fighting other trained men, many who are in the same service as him, so from those guys he really has to work to survive. Hell, even Greene really killed him, because he was an unpredictable madman with an axe.
Of course he took out a few guys in an elevator, they were basically just glorified bodyguards. Craig's Bond is ex-Royal Navy and eats them for breakfast. But in the fights where he's up against equals, you can see it's not a walk in the park for him.
The parkour chase you take issue with actually goes a long way towards showing that Bond is terribly imperfect. Mollaka is perfect in his timing and ability to land jumps and slides, whereas Bond jumps, nearly falls off the crane, and almost breaks his neck or back with his next leap that sends him smashing into a mess of metal, the only thing that could soften his hard landing. When Mollaka leaps over walls, Craig Bond smashes through them because he just can't be bothered. He's clearly the far lesser man in the chase, and ultimately has to create a raucous to get his man in the end.
We can also see from QoS and SP that he's not an ace pilot, but knows enough to get himself out of some scrapes when he needs to. He's very much a resourceful man instead of an expert. He'll take a car or plane, use them in an improvisational manner to get what he needs, and tries not to kill himself in the process. Even his bike skills are rusty, as in SF, where he really can't judge the control of the bike well enough and often has to slow down to avoid careening into walls.
But at the very least the basis he has in combat and in vehicles is very much down to his training and naval past. You'd expect a man with the military history of Bond to at least have a bit of comfort with all kinds of operational devices or vehicles, either from mandated practice or through his own leisure time being a maverick off duty. And Craig's Bond does give off that feeling to me. The adrenaline junkie who likes to try anything, to pick up a new skill he could use later.
You've just hit the nail on the head.
Was there something about boxing too?
I get your point though. That's why I think Craig wouldn't necessarily win a fight with any of them. I can just see the wily old pros finding a way to neutralize him and then making some glib remark as he lies beaten on the floor.
Hmm, I dunno. Craig Bond is trained in such a way that his fighting is internationally influenced. Before he got into the ring with you he would ask you how you wanted to be killed. Would you like it the Israeli way? The Filipino way? Maybe the Brazilian? He could even kill you the old fashioned way, bar brawler style, like a true Londoner. That's what makes him dangerous to me. He's a killing machine, but a very fluid and mixed one.
Some of the other Bonds maybe boxed at Eton and did alright, but how long would they last against a guy who fought like that on his worst day?
Thought so. I could probably do with re-reading the books. I think it was 4, maybe 5 , years ago that I read them all (except the Benson short stories).
That's what Craig does as well in many fights. Fisher in CR, Slate in QoS, Hinx in SP. I don't see it as over confidence, he just knows people need killed and he doesn't draw it out. In many of his fights he's also being aggressed upon, so he's ending something he didn't start as effectively as he can.
That doesn t take long. There are only seven books according to Brosnan.
And starting with Dr No, no less. Should be able to shoot through them in no time.
I really liked the fight in MI-RN at the opera because of this. Cruise was outmatched but the pace of the fight reminded me of the old Bond classics.
If we're talking about real-life actors, Lazenby is the best fighter by far. The only way he'd lose is due to variables like the rest ganging up on him or something. Craig is probably second, on account of his build and a more developed fighting style than the others. Connery comes in third. Moore can probably hit hard if he wanted to but if his fighting style is anything like those in his Bond movies then his glacial karate chops and head-grab punches would be far too slow. He's also disadvantaged by his age. Brosnan and Dalton don't really have any standout traits. That's a fist-fight, by the way. Have no idea how a ski chase, boat chase or gun fight etc. would turn out with the real actors.
In terms of the Bonds in the movies themselves, then Connery, Lazenby and Craig lose a fistfight because they're too realistic. Connery was beaten up pretty hard by a few average men in Dr No and Bambi and Thumper crushed him in DAF. He'd hold his own if he had a few objects to ram and throw (see the PTS and Disco Volante fights in TB and the fight against the Rock's granddad in YOLT), but otherwise he's out. He also nearly lost to Grant in FRWL despite getting the jump on him with the tear gas.
Craig and Lazenby have more developed fighting techniques, are faster, and would come out on top in a martial sense. On the other hand, they're still within the boundaries of realistic humans. Lazenby's pretty durable since he tanked quite a few of hotel dude's blows, while Craig seems stronger based on how casually he sent Slate through doors in QoS.
Dalton seems like a pretty regular human as far as physical traits go. A random dude in the LTK bar brawl got him bleeding with two hits. He also only managed to shatter one leg of a chair when he smashed it into a guy in TLD — compare that to Connery using entire sofas as a battering ram, Moore smashing entire chairs on people, etc. He also doesn't appear particularly resourceful as to his surroundings, especially compared to the other Bonds. Apart from a good headbutt, he's got the least going for him.
Moore and Brosnan would probably be discounted by most because their fighting styles look considerably sloppier, but they've got the advantage of being literally superhuman. Three big dudes were beating Brosnan up in TND and he just got up and smashed all of them in a fight. He also shrugged off being cut by lasers in DAD.
Moore has cartoonish levels of strength (a single punch or shoulder barge knocks people back unrealistic amounts) and durability (he tanks an awful lot without being seriously hurt, except in TMWTGG, and even then he shrugged off a glass bottle being broken on the back of his head). So Brosnan and Moore probably just tank everything and eventually outlast the others or win through using the environment (they were the best at it).
In a gunfight, Craig might be the most accurate pistol marksman after his performance in SP. The rest are fairly even with a pistol (can't remember Lazenby's performances with his Walther). If you involve automatic weapons, though, Brosnan destroys everyone here.
In a skiing contest, Moore eviscerates the competition. For a boat chase, either Moore or Brosnan. Car chase would go to Brosnan. In terms of battles from insane heights and other stunt-like circumstances, Moore comes out on top, then Brosnan, then Dalton, then Craig. Can't really judge Connery or Lazenby in that area.