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You mean tiepose?
*salivates*
It's a riot. ;)
You and me both.
I assume you're talking about @Birdleson here, as my thoughts on this are known and I don't hide my annoyance with the usual suspects on the production thread.
RE: the production thread, I find it amusing that the people like myself who figured that Dan would return, that the movie would be his last, and that the movie would only come out in either late 2018 or 2019 are the ones who are the most mature and relaxed in the aftermath of the "big news," while all the folks who denied Dan's return and thought 2019 was an impossible window to meet are acting spoiled and brattish. I actually like these movies (most of the critics don't seem to) and yet I don't get worked up over it like so many do.
The fact that Dan went on a random talk show and spilled the news is pretty amazing, and we finally have a clear idea of what to expect going forward which is a bigger revelation (to the unobservant fans post-SP, that is) than we've had since the last film came out. If people are still whining and acting entitled to more from EON, they've lost the plot because Dan didn't need to tell anyone anything beyond him being back, and he didn't have to do it as a big surprise out of nowhere while promoting a film completely unrelated to Bond.
EON seem to be enemy number one around here a lot of the time (often illogically), but boy do some of the "fans" here make good company.
I read the update page only on the Bond 25 production thread as there is way too much unrelated stuff to plough through.
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The crux of it is as follows:
1. there will be a B25, which we always knew would be the case
2. release date is November 8, 2019 in the US and earlier in the UK
3. Craig confirmed his return on Colbert after denying it earlier in the day. He said he wanted to give Colbert the scoop. 007.com has confirmed his intention to return on its website.
4. P&W writes.
That's about it for facts. The rest of the 1017 pages is all complete gossip, conjecture and discussion.
Correct me I was wrong in what I stated above about the 'hard facts' with respect to B25.
I appreciate all the effort you take to update that thread daily, but bottom line is the actual 'knowns' are quite limited at present.
If people choose to speculate and discuss things about Bond which interest them I don't see what the problem is. At the end of the day, as I've noted on that particular thread, nearly all the comments can give us insights into what members collectively desire for Bond films in the future, based on their analysis and remarks about prior films (most notably, SP). I personally find it quite informative to understand where members are coming from. I don't judge their opinions. I just observe and participate until we get some news. Ultimately it's one huge 'speculative database' of sorts.
No need to worry. I'm sure the thread will clean itself up once there's more substantive information to discuss, whenever that may be.
But you're right in that it doesn't change the fact that we barely know anything other than the hard facts you mentioned above.
The thread is meant as a place to discuss certain elements one would like to see in B25 as much as it is to discuss production developments ranging from pre-production all the way to the film's home media release. Talking about reasons for why Madeleine Swann should or shouldn't return is fair game. A 10 page discussion about the musical subtleties of Thomas Newman's American Beauty score is not.
Your thread is a goldmine of insights, for those who care to look.
@jakee24, I guess we are to take all this as a sign that we are turning into what we have fought so hard against. Oh, no! How very Shakespearean. ;)
I don't know what other adjective one could use to describe those who treat bookie bets as confirmation about who EON are considering for Bond #7, who constantly shove the apparent obviousness of another random actor's rise to the Bond throne (a Hiddleston, Turner, Hardy, it's a catch-all) and who can't put two and two together to figure out that without a distributor, films don't get made. The production thread then amounts to a very ignorant, myopic and altogether bumbling showing of what happens when the misinformed get together and have a party.
"Childish" is far, far too kind a word to use, quite frankly, but that's the most discreet and respectable one can or should go. It's easy to see why those who act in such a way wish for others not to be so honest about their behavior, but because they do the above they don't have to consciously deal with it every day in so many threads, whereas those who don't act that way have to hear the same tired and misinformed opinions daily. Those like myself, @jake24 and RC7 sometimes repeat ourselves by association as we try to reach these folks, but it by no means amounts to the constant recycling of opinions that one hears from the same people every day in numerous posts and threads. I assume the thought is that members are worried the rest of us will forget their opinion if they don't repeat the same thing every day five or six times and have the same conversation about the same topic bimonthly. As it stands I don't know of anyone here who has dementia, so I can't say it's warranted behavior.
I guess the metaphor to apply here is the baby sticking its hand on the hot oven, crying from the pain that makes them avoid doing it again. The babies are the equally infantile EON whiners and the hot oven are those who try to ease their monotonous experiences on the production thread. I've left them to burn months ago now, knowing it's hopeless. It's no secret why the posters have become a running joke on the community and the content of their ramblings in the thread a punchline along with them.
The remedy I would suggest are those folks picking up some hobbies, so that one's life doesn't revolve around the production of Bond 25 and nothing else. Pick up landscape painting to soothe your soul, maybe read a good book, take a walk in the park, chat up a girl (and always use protection if it goes farther), etc. Considering that those who are most vocal about Bond 25 on here are those who hate the latest films and EON along with them, it's curious why their lives are spent in such pursuit of commentary on the series they don't have interest in. A bit masochistic, no? What exactly is the point of taking about things you don't like, when you could, I dunno, pursue what makes you happy?
He's my least favourite Bond (as I explained in the other thread, sometimes it was due to his acting, sometimes the scripts he was attached to), but I'm still happy he became Bond.
No :))
I think you need to revisit some of the post on Brosnan on that thread if you think it's not bashing....
it's all a mix of ridiculous claims and luckily well founded opinions too...
Same treatment , after he too is replaced.