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Listen, I'm just as excited as anyone to see a new Bond film, but so far some things have me a little concerned - maybe the sheer pedestrian nature (literally) of the photos so far and the lack of travel most of all - and I will be very glad if and when I'm proved wrong.
Meanwhile, these boards are for conjecture, hopes and fears - right?
It's technically a medical apparatus, no gadget.
The question is does the context change my point above.
Nonetheless we don't know the full story yet. It seems a bit harsh to start worrying when we've only just seen one proper still. Just take it as it comes. For all you know you (and I for that matter) may be very suprised come November. Even if it's not what some of us may expect from a Bond film chances are its going to be a good film nonetheless.
I'm going by what the celebrity column in The Sun said so it's hardly the most reliable source I suppose ;)
I have read that lighter touch more often then just once - so, I suppose it MIGHT ne more reliable.
Maybe it would make sense to apply a certain logic to our musings.
The prods by now perfectly KNOW what is expected after QOS. Why would they go for something, that so obviously is not popular? Above all, they want to make a ton of money with it (and they NEED to as well), so its rather save to assume, they try to not repeat the mistakes of QOS, starting with the quick editing to make it overly serious. My guess is, that they will come up with something, that has enough Bond elements plus an exciting story line. A bit of trust, folks...
Fair points all.
You're right that no matter how much it deviates from my ideal Bond it will almost certainly be an entertaining quality film. The script is by all accounts very solid and the cast raises the bar for the series, so...some good portents as well...
how dare you :|
You can still have classic Bond in a more gritty, character driven Bond film. For me, CR was pretty classic Bond except for the fact that it was missing the gunbarrel at the beginning. I am getting a bit sick of the revenge stories though.
Very amusing. I can see a bit of Dracula in Dalts as well. That widow's peak.
I don't have problem with Craig's look. I think he convinces as Bond, but I would like some humour - real humour. He's too damn serious all the time. Bond makes us laugh not because he's a clown or a comic act but because of the wit and (here it comes again) insouciance he shows at moments of danger/high tension. That's what we love about him - his back is against the wall, outnumbered 20 to 1 by goons and he still has time for a witticism (never his last). The other thing Bond should do (in my opinion) is move gracefully and (most of the time) make things look easy and effortless. Look at the way Connery moves in the films - he has thought about it a lot - and it is like watching a dancer. His movements have a real grace to them. It's one of the reasons he was cast. Craig actually isn't bad at this, but they need to work at it a bit more.
Any way, that's my view. And I agree with VeryBond - it's the gradual stripping away of all these details that is making Bond more and more everyday. For me Brozza was the low point. He looked like some dim good looking guy of the street without an ounce of charisma or sense of what he was doing. Dalton has pressence but was very understated. I liked him a lot but also understand why he perhaps didn't set the box office on fire. Craig is a step in the right direction, but they need to realise we've had enough of his sulking broodiness.
We don't know the reason yet why Bond is unshaven - and neither should we know the reason yet (it may relate to a major plot point that works very well for all we know). There's little point in condemning a Bond character's look from a few grainy images etc prior to seeing the film - that just smacks of fan-boy obsessiveness for me. A little consideration and patience isn't a bad thing... ;)
Well, he is NOW. What's EMP?
Interesting point ,now since you mention it, i try to resume what plot already done before B23 (correct me if i'm wrong)
-facing Megalomaniacal villains : 14 times (DN,TB,GF.YOLT,OHMSS,DAF,LALD,TMWTGG,TSWLM,MR,AVTAK,GE,TND,DAD)
-Revenge plot:3 times (DAF,LTK,QOS)
-Bond facing his past:3 times (TND,TWINE,QOS)
-Mission finding valuable properties: 5 times (FRWL,MR,FYEO,OP,GE)
-Mission finding relatively not OTT criminals:2 times (TLD, CR)
-Mission protecting key persons : 3 times (FRWL, TLD, TWINE)
based on my version of statistic of plot "revenge plot" only 3 times happened in the series, megalomaniacal villains got 14 times, what else the producers can do? do you guys have any suggestions what plot should franchise make in the future? make Bond finding his cousins? or finding his illegitimate son/daughter?
Huh? When did he face his past in TWINE? You could have stacked GE in there, though (him fighting Trevelyn and all).
oops sorry about the mistake
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To be fair, DAD also linked in with facing his imprisonment past in Korea and revenge. It was personal. "The same person who set me up then has just set me up again, so i'm going ARFTA him." Thats revenge.
DAF never seemed a revenge plot to me. It should have been after OHMSS, but there was no reference to Tracy, even in the PTS when Bond is after Blofeld (which he had been after in the previous films anyway). Otherwise you could say FYEO was about revenge with Blofeld (the PTS) which isn't entiely accurate.
QOS seemed like a revenge movie on paper (M even thought he was after revenge but it wasn't the case). Yes, Bond sought answers but the whole point of the movie is Bond found what he was looking for, and it wasn't through killing every person who had links to Vesper. People often presume it was a revenge movie, it actually wasn't.
As for this thread - yes, in an ideal situation, I'd prefer more time with Bond shaven, but he hasn't got the beard for the whole of Skyfall, which indicates there's a reason for it being there. Lets wait for that reason. I'm sure it is perfectly logical for a secret agent in the context of this movie.
And I don't entirely agree with the common argument of "That was years ago, Bond has to move with the times now." To a degree, yes, but if we go too far that way with other things we will lose all grasp of what makes Bond truly stand out from all other action heroes. Its a formula of balance, some things must always stay consistent. We musn't forget that.
Electromagnetic pulse.
I remember Peter Hunt saying at some point that he felt that the movie OHMSS happened before the movie YOLT (preserving the order of the novels), which is why there is no YOLT reference when Bond goes through the items in his desk. (It doesn't explain the ninja in the title sequence, though.)
Along those same lines, DAF could exist in an alternate universe, one without OHMSS. Connery's Bond could merely be hot on Blofeld's trail following the events of the movie YOLT.
Of course later the decision was made to include references to OHMSS in TSWLM, FYEO, and LTK, bringing it back into the character's life. But at the time of DAF the intent may have been to erase OHMSS's existence.