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The X Rated Bond Scenes

jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
edited February 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 3,327
With anticipation now high on the upcoming new James Bond film Skyfall starring Daniel Craig, will the completed film survive without any cuts?

There is a long history with the Bond films and the British Board of Film Classification, and listed below are just some of the scenes that the censors didn’t want you to see.

Producers of the 007 movies had to cut scenes, redub dialogue and rewrite scripts because the British Board of Film Classification objected to some of the spy’s more risque exploits.


http://www.filmnav.co.uk/2012/02/05/the-x-rated-james-bond-scenes/

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited February 2012 Posts: 28,694
    Interesting article, and so very shocking. 'Positively shocking'.
  • GerardGerard
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    Funny, I saw no mention of Virginia Hey's breasts in the article.
  • KennonKennon
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    Thanks for sharing this. Shows how much the Bond flicks were considered very light family entertainment at the time. Cutting from Moore's films seems ludicrous today.
  • craigrulescraigrules
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    hope we get uncut CR on the new blu ray
  • Alan007Alan007
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    Intersting thanks for posting that
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    No reference to Chu Mi or Pat Fearing either.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Kerim wrote:
    No reference to Chu Mi or Pat Fearing either.

    Yes, Pat Fearing WAS mentioned. You mustn't have read through it all.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    This is so well known now with the Bond producers that i think whatever compromising scenes they film? They will film them accordingly as to not get too bogged down with it? It's gonna more focused as a quality event movie with a good cracking script and action sequences too match!
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Kerim wrote:
    No reference to Chu Mi or Pat Fearing either.

    Yes, Pat Fearing WAS mentioned. You mustn't have read through it all.

    Did I say Pat Fearing? I meant the Swiss Gatekeeper.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    Kennon wrote:
    Thanks for sharing this. Shows how much the Bond flicks were considered very light family entertainment at the time. Cutting from Moore's films seems ludicrous today.

    Cutting from any Bond film seems ludicrous-PERIOD. When we see the wave of slasher films with their blatant sex, graphic violence. Censors give us a break!
  • KennonKennon
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    Indeed, Bond films should hardly be a concern today for the censors. But some earlier tricky problems they had I can understand. Bond movies were considered raunchy, sexy, sadistic and violent in the beginning. And a bit touchy politically. Censors used to think people came out of the cinemas sexually uninhibited and shameless or as brutalised vandals. Well, some do but they entered the theatres in that condition to begin with.

    But joking aside, it's really hard to understand from today's POV how these very minor things had to endure cuttings.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    What's with that bit in FYEO when one of Kristatos' men pulls out a big knife and slashes at Havelock's suit on the boat, it's only in the film about two seconds if that and they have usually omitted it from TV broadcastings from past viewings, I got the film as part of the official collection a week or two ago and it was left intact as was some other bits that had been cut out from other viewings. I read the link bit above and there was even mention of a considered uncut 18 certificate for License To Kill of all things, to think we actually could of ended up with something like that after the light hearted and tame parental guidance pictures that went before it, quite a step up and no mistake

    It's better with the more recent releases on DVD as we get to see the franchise more openly and not the restricted way presented often on VHS editions before it. I couldn't take that article seriously from a 21st century perspective by way of them worrying about James Bond using a 'mink glove', X-rated considerations for Thunderball ?, 'A slight stiffness' and such, all seems a bit ridiculous now, although fair enough, the burnings of Sanchez and Kidd maybe were not suitable for all at time of showings. Point being, we can look back now that it all seems a bit amusing at the way such innocent or harmless scenes were frowned upon by what we can see from years on, were all acceptable to leave in. I guess we really have come a long way in such a short space of time
  • craigrulescraigrules
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    we should have a theatre cut and an unrated one its quite common since dvd came along.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    edited February 2012 Posts: 4,813
    Hell yes, we should have the option nowadays.

    This thread got me thinking about the part in OHMSS when the guy got shredded in the snowblower machine. That probably gave kids nightmares back then! lol
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    That was actually quite amusing, it was sort of a frontrunner to the Brosnan (again), incident at the Carver building in Hamburg when someone ended up in a similar fashion. The snowmachine bit was a bit lighter as someone clearly said IDIOT!, and Lazenby quipped 'he had a lot of guts' which no doubt took the edge of any macabre viewings, which it wasn't
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I have the uncut Dutch DVD of LTK and from my memories of my UK VHS the only differences are:

    The whipping of Lupe is removed.
    We dont hear the scream of the boyfriend having his heart cut out.
    A 1 second shot of Felixs bloody stump is missing.
    Theres an extra 2 or 3 frames where Krests head actually explodes rather than just swells up.
    An extra few frames of Dario getting minced.
    A few extra seconds of Sanchez burning.

    All this adds up to about 20 seconds and most of that is Lupe being whipped. The rest combined is about 5 seconds. Theres the briefest glimpse of something graphic and then its gone before you have time to focus on it - its not exactly Saw.

    Its particularly outrageous when the same censor was quite happy a few years before to pass The Empire Strikes Back as a U (not even PG!!) despite there being a scene where someone actually gets his hand chopped off. And considering that without Bond propping up the British film industry for years, these people would be lucky to have jobs it takes the piss quite frankly.

    Is the censor seriously saying that the uncut version was worthy of an 18?

    Cant believe how badly LTK was treated. The 15 cert was influential in the poor box office take and the general perecption that the Dalton era was a failure. I remember at the time on the ITV premier show John Glen being blatantly pissed off that he had been forced to cut the film merely to scrape a 15.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    It's amazing how many things got cut back in the day. When it comes to sex or nudity though, I think the Bonds have established something of a tradition there and despite my being anything but boob fearing, I think we should just stick with how they've been doing things so far. Tantalise, but don't deliver all the goods. ;-)
  • bondsumbondsum
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    Master_Dahark wrote:
    Hell yes, we should have the option nowadays.

    This thread got me thinking about the part in OHMSS when the guy got shredded in the snowblower machine. That probably gave kids nightmares back then! lol

    Nah, I was a kid back in 1970 and it didn't give me nightmares. I thought it was a great film then and still do.

  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    I think it's highly improbable we will ever see an '18' Bond release, the chances seem so remote I have trouble even saying it, Bond was parental guidance all the way up to 1987 until Daltons second outing, suddenly saw a surprise leap in nefarious incidents in the James Bond series and as of then, unheard profanities for the most part and action sequences, I think what with the competition there was in the summer of 1989 they tried to compete maybe and failed miserably but seems a bit of a vague conclusion

    We had the 'shits' of Live and Let Die, the extra nudity of Daylights, that extra edge of violence in Diamonds etc but License to Kill took it to a whole new level, after that Bond was never really the same again and there has been no PG Release of Bond since 1987. I don't mind a bit of extra violence, blood, language etc in Bond, I'm all for it, I don't like tame affairs, I want some action, and blood and things in 007, we have had more of that with Dalton and Brosnan and Craig, even if some of their respective releases have been questionable. I don't want Bond to represent Casino or Nil By Mouth or anything, just some hard edged reality, some good violence and added language that isn't overly offensive, no F words as of yet in Bond, but never say never, that day could yet well arrive, but so long as we keep it as it is now then I don't think we can go far wrong, Craig is the man to push this forward. Cinema today is no big deal for some, kids get to see one way or another all kinds of stuff here and there, and hardcore releases from the 1970s such as Clockwork Orange or The Exorcist seem tame in comparison to todays standards, and while Bond is nothing like that, it should just move with the times and adjust to what is around it for mainly family audience fare
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    I guess since DN and FRWL Bond films have been considered family entertainment. The shredding scene in OHMSS never bothered me. I thought it was cool (Bond villians always die nasty deaths).

    I was perplexed by the shooting of Strangeways' secretary. Being shot in the breast. I think that was never done up to that point (1962)

    Slasher films are "R" rated and they have no qualms about the graphic sex and gory violence. I guess the censors feel there is no place for this in Bond films.
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