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They just didn't do anything to merit a comeback after all these years. They didn't do anything new. They didn't do anything to justify diluting the extremely powerful ending of Ultimatum.
As way of a bad comparison, it's like Only Fools and Horses! They had the perfect ending. It should have been left alone but they brought it back with a substandard entry. Nothing to be ashamed of, but it should have been left alone.
Ok....don't hate me now but I don't like Bourne. I watched it many years ago and I didn't get the hype...I watched QoS and while the things they borrowed from Bourne seemed interetesting on paper they didn't deliver in reality and gave us not that good of a movie...
Now as the new movie is released I rewatched the original 3 movies......and I still don't get it.
Identity - It would've been better if they followed Bourne for entire movie keeping the audience guessing.
Supremacy - More action than the first one but again...nothing that will grip me all the way...
Ultimatum - probably the best of the 3 cause of the first 30 mins. Seriously amazing spyish stuff with great thrills....then the movie goes full Bourne with shaky cam, random over the top car chase and Bourne surviving things that would kill anyone else.
And I saw Jason Bourne today and.....same. I guess less shaky cam was noticeable this time but overall...what you get in previous movies is what you get here. With the difference that this time the story is weaker and it is noticeable that there's no need for a sequel.
I haven't seen Legacy yet and I might like it, who knows..
I liked the fist fight of the newest movie but.....it's too edited! If it was straight shot or if they used less than 30 cuts it would've been amazing.
The way they're going with the movies they may never end.
Next movie: Bourne doesn't remember his childhood. Suddenly he remembers his parents told him the dog went to better place with some good people.....what if they lied to him and the dog died when he was a kid? He has to find out! And the CIA has some super secret thing that they want to hide from Bourne....so naturally they assume he's after him and attack him while Bourne tries to uncover the truth about his doggo.
I'll say that I've seen the 1988 (or so) made for TV 2 part movie and I liked it a lot. I think (correct me if im wrong) but it was more focused on Bourne rather than it being 50-50 with Bourne/CIA.
So...if you've liked the previous Bourne movies you might enjoy seeing Bourne again on the big screen even tho it's obvious the story is there just to get Bourne back in some shenanigans and that if they continue like this they'll have 20 movies with some plot like the one I mentioned before.
SAW is a series that I love. They made 4-5 too many sequels....but it had a reasoning behind the sequels that you end up loving the revelation at the end of the next movie so you end up liking the sequels..(or at least I did even tho they're not needed after SAW 3)
With the latest Bourne movie the stakes are not upped and that annoys me. The stakes are....same if not lower than before. I mean they tried to make it higher.....but for Bourne it's not that compelling...he doesn't fight for his life cause someone's chasing him but he fights cause...eh he found himself in random situation.
Bond and Mission Impossible are better than Bourne IMHO.
But if you like Bourne than I have no problem with you as you also like some badass spy/action movies :D
Another thing....the Bourne movies doesn't seem to end on a high note...like...the movie ends.........and you don't feel like it ended....you always expect someone else to come for Bourne and it goes on and on.
If this movie does well on the boxoffice they'll probably go for more Bourne movies and I'll surely see them as well in hopes I'll like it as you guys do :)
P.S. The ending of the Bourne movies is amazing with that Moby music. I'll admit that. Also the last minute of the newest Bourne movie is the best ending in the series so far for me personally.
"How many times, can they keep remaking the same film "
Looking forward to your thoughts on this.
I was supposed to see this yesterday but another opportunity came up which I couldn't pass on.
The reviews are correct that it doesn't move the needle much though, and it's probably not quite up to the level of the first three, which is a bit disappointing given how far the genre has moved forward in the past few years (particularly with Cruise and Co.). The car chase is incredible (it's like Ultimatum on steroids) but the hand to hand combat was probably done better in the third one.
It almost seems like a film re-establishing the state of play for us after nine long years, and I suspect there are more adventures to come. From that perspective, it's great, and I look forward to seeing the man up on the screen again soon.
This is reassuring to hear. If you enjoyed it then I most likely will too. I'm not really interested in Bourne doing anything exceptional so to speak. If it's essentially in line with the previous Damon outings then I'm happy.
How would you compare it to SP?
Let's put it this way: Jason Bourne as a film doesn't make me lose interest in the character or in Damon as an actor playing him. I want to see him back on the screen again as Bourne, and sooner rather than later. However, as with SP, I believe the film could have been a lot better. This one is more like TFA or JW in that it's very familiar and looks to be a way to get us back into that world after the long break, setting us up nicely for the future where I hope to see more creativity.
And Bourne is a man on the run kind of character, always has been. The only credible stories you can do are those where he is running from a threat, or hiding away, before being flushed out again. He doesn't work many other ways, and other approaches beyond that could only make it all appear more artificial from a character standpoint, as he doesn't ever seek out danger, he does what he does when he has to, but would much rather slip away unseen.
Bourne doesn't work as a reinvigorated hitman, private security guy or any other different approach on him the studio may want to try in the future to justify making another film about him. At the most he's destined to be another character in the vein of Joseph Campbell's "Hero with a Thousand Faces," who drifts his way through life, solves problems in the areas he travels to, then continues on drifting to the next unforeseen adventure. He travels aimlessly around the globe, moving when he needs to, then when problems stir up around him that he doesn't like, he uses his considerable skills to weed out the problems, eradicate them, and then cuts ties, moves on, and later does it all over again in a new location.
That's the only kind of approach I really see working effectively and logically in the confines of Bourne's story, and Mad Max has been doing that kind of tale so much better than anything else for decades (and now again with Fury Road), and Jack Reacher is a series that is in the same vein as those drifter narratives, with a new one coming out soon. It's hard to know what place in film the next Bourne will frequent in regards to its story and with so much competition, or if there's even a need to do anything more with a character who has largely been exhausted creatively.
At the most they could do that Cross and Bourne team-up that was rumored or suggested, and I for one would find it more interesting than any of the other options I see for the character going forward.
That's how I felt before seeing the film but of course this time round he isn't running.
I loved it and I personally found it more suspenseful than any of the previous, even Supremacy which I felt moved like a bullet. Stylistically It feels like a legtimate Bourne film but the CIA characters and their power games have much more depth and motivation to them this time round.
The film takes you teasingly close to suggesting Bourne may become a legitimate agent and therefore the franchise will continue but alas....
I'd say they pulled it off successfully in getting you caught up in a drama around the character when you thought the story had been told. Whether they could repeat it for a 5th or even 6th Webb Bourne film I'm not sure.
See it at the cinema too. The Vegas car chase is too majestic to see on the small screen.
I for one really would like to see more and can't wait to catch this one in the theatre again in the next few wks.
But I think there's cope for them to make this into a second trilogy.
I think it will probably come in between $180M and $190M total US gross when it's all said and done. Anything higher is excellent but unlikely. That will put it on par with Rogue Nation/SP which were both in the high 190's/200M break range.
Here's an article with some interesting info on box office and budgets:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/07/25/box-office-matt-damons-jason-bourne-has-one-big-advantage-over-its-blockbuster-competition/#7c87e81b2747
I also heard they plan on maybe starting a movie universe with The Rock as another agent, and maybe another movie as a sequel to Bourne Legacy which may result in a Renner/Damon movie
Are you sure you haven't confused that announcement with the one about his Fast and Furious character Hobbs getting a spin-off series? Otherwise, that's taking things too far.
Nope :D
And kinda yes.
http://www.slashfilm.com/robert-ludlum-cinematic-universe-janson-directive/
Apparently Universal wants to make a Robert Ludlum universe NOT mixed with the Bourne movies.
I mean...it may be interesting, who knows, I'm for a action movie universe it has a potential but this may all fall apart before it gets going so who knows.
Also I still remember reading somewhere about them having an idea for a Renner/Bourne movie but for now it's just an idea.
I enjoyed legacy and would love to see a sequel of that.