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Best British Film
Best Actor in a Leading Role
Best Screenplay - Adapted
Best Editing
Best Cinematography
Best Production Design
Best Original Music
Best Achievement in Special Visual Effects
Best Sound (won)
BAFTA nominations for Quantum of Solace:
Best Special Visual Effects
Best Sound
BAFTA nominations for Skyfall:
Best British Film
Best Actor in a Supporting Role
Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Best Editing
Best Cinematography
Best Production Design
Best Original Music
Best Sound
Compared to CR: no Best Actor in a Leading Role, no Best Screenplay, no Special Visual Effects, but an acting nomination for Javier Bardem and one for Judi Dench.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/09/bafta-nominations-2013-lincoln-les-miserables-skyfall_n_2436772.html?1357720475&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
You think I am the guy that will more or less commit suicide if James Bond gets no Oscar nods or if James Bond even fails to win any Oscar? You think because I am a fan 'Skyfall' deserves to be nominated in every category? Well, I have a message for you. You're plain wrong. I'm not the guy that starts weeping tears over it....let alone weeping blood. I'm a critical fan....and a critical movie lover. And I do think that as a movies like 'The Master', 'Argo' and 'Zero Dark Thirty' are better movies than 'Skyfall'.
The thing is, the current Oscar speculation is not insane. It's pure realism. Nothing more, nothing less. As of Thursday we will have a Bond film with the most Oscar nominations ever. For me as a fan that is simply unique. Even more so for the Bond producers. If you think I am childish, you also say the Bond producers are childish. Because I know from previous Bond films that 'Cubby' got quite emotional when his Bond production got an Oscar momination.
I have also said, on many occasions, that even ONE technical Oscar nomination is wunderful recognition. You think I think 'Skyfall' will win the 'Best Picture' Oscar? Not in a million years my friend (Allthough I do think that 'Skyfall' has a worthy story/theme about espionage that we haven't seen in other movies except 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy'!). I'm realistic enough. But each category in my opinion stands for a creative process that was a hardworking, sometimes even difficult process. You are not thinking about all these hundreds of crewmembers working on a Bond film. Well, I do.
By belittling these categories, you are indirectly belittling the hard, creative work done by Roger Deakins, Paul Epworth, Adele, Scott Millan, Javier Bardem and most importantly the Producers Guild nominated producers Babs and Michael.
And if I compare Bond fans with Batman fans, I think the Bond fans are the most realistic, down-to-earth, critical, 'normal', 'healthy sceptical' fans around the block. Even more so than Batman fans, who simply vote a thousand times on IMDB to give 'The Dark Knight Rises' an exaggerated 8.7 score. I am not like that. Most Bond fans in here are not like that.
It's like 'Casino Royale' all over again it seems ;-). Wunderful. EIGHT nominations. I do think that 'Skyfall' will win at least two BAFTA's, making it top the previous record currently hold by 'From Russia With Love' and 'Casino Royale', who each won one BAFTA.
Still, I think the Producers Guild Awards, Screen Actors Guild Awards and Critics Choice Awards are better predictors and are not biased towards 'Britishness'. Those nominations for 'Skyfall' are truly unique.
Don’t know why you seem to be taking it so personally as I’m not referring to anything you have said but the following which seem to suggest its some sort of Sepp Blatter stitch up to deny SF its rightful haul of every BAFTA going:
I am calling the biased and blinkered outrage of all those comments above childish not you or Babs and Michael and not the giving or receiving of awards in general.
Also how am I belittling any categories (except Best British Film which belittles itself with its own parochial title by indicating it recognises films not good enough to compete on a global level) or the hard work by the cast and crew? I’m sure as much effort and work went into TDKR but that only picked up one nod. No doubt there are hundreds of films that don’t get any nominations but I expect a lot of work went into them. DAD is technically very competent (parasurfing aside) does that mean it deserves a load of awards otherwise its belittling the filmmakers? I would love it if a Bond film swept the board at the BAFTAs or Oscars but I’m afraid SF isn’t going to be that film even though its very good and Babs and Michael have done a very good job with bringing us a great film for the 50th. Try to read and comprehend what someone has written before flying off the handle.
Oh and that is not how you spell wunderful (sic).
And in your rage you did a – shock horror –DOUBLE POST!
I think that’s all.
I and others have the same right as you to express ouropinions as you do. End of story. Calm down yourself.
Well, not against my expectations to be honest. Eight nominations is wunderful. Delightful so to say. I think it's perfectly fair that 'Lincoln' got most nominations.
Thing is, Huffington Post brings it like a 'loss' for 'Skyfall'. Well, that's their journalism hehe.
No. I think it's much simpler than that. Awards are recognitions! That's how I see it. That's how even Bond fans should see it. It's in essence not about a 'bonus' for cinema visitors or an 'indicator' to who will win the Oscar. Yes, you can use it as such. But in the end, the actual nominations and wins of awards are recognition for outstanding work in a specific cinematic category.
Easy darling. I don't feel attacked personally :-). But I am allowed to give my opinion. I just disagree with your arguments wholeheartedly. That's all :-).
Of course Awards are recognition, @CatchingBullets didn't imply that. As he said, films are made to be seen by an audience, particularly an entry in the bloody Bond franchise. I think you guys need to stop getting your knickers in a twist. So Dan and SF didn't get the nominations, does it make SF any less good?
I wish everyone had the same basic level of rationale as @TheWizardOfIce. It's relentlessly tedious having to read through reams of blinkered bollocks and hissy fits.
I was also talking about these BAFTA's and how Huffington Post wrote about it ;-). Thing is.....Oscars are more important for me. Tomorrow we have forgotten the BAFTA's already. And the BAFTA's indeed are a bit biased. The BAFTA nominates Thomas Newman for 'Best Original Score' and furthermore 'Skyfall' gets nods for 'Best Supporting Actress', 'Best Editing' and 'Best Production Design'. I clearly see some 'British bias' in this, as I personally think 'Skyfall' is not thát outstanding in those categories. 'Best Cinematography'? YES. 'Best Supporting Actor'? YES. 'Best Sound'? YES. 'Best Original Song'? ABSOLUTELY. Rest of the nods are just....great for a Bond fan like me :-).
Well, I never said something about Danny not being nominated hehe. Frankly, I think he did not deserve a nomination looking to the likes of for instance Daniel Day Lewis.
That said, social media has been abuzz all morning with the 's' word: snub. Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes were both notable omissions in 'Best Actor' and 'Best Director' respectively, while the movie also didn't make the cut for 'Best Film'.
Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/at-the-movies/a449580/skyfall-bafta-snub-did-daniel-craig-sam-mendes-deserve-nominations.html#ixzz2HTkCKKBQ
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Did 'Skyfall' deserve more BAFTA nominations?
Yes - Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes should have been nominated72.06%
No - 'Skyfall' wasn't unfairly overlooked in the nominations27.94%
Wait till tomorrow. And then be amazed how many Oscar nominations 'Skyfall' gets. I predict:
--> Either 'Best Picture' or 'Best Supporting Actor'
--> 'Best Cinematography'
--> 'Best Original Song'
--> 'Best Sound Editing'
--> 'Best Sound Mixing'
So if I have to choose: EIGHT BAFTA nominations or FIVE Oscar nominations? I choose the latter.
I keep thinking the same thing.
Thats one in the eye for those bitches who posted on the CraignotBond website.
I wonder what will happen to the site when Craig is not Bond. No need complaining about the past, is there?...
I'm afraid although you are entitled to your opinion SF has been dealt a heinous miscarriage of justice on a par with Timothy Evans it is in fact worthless when it comes to the awards voting process. As are the 'sources' above that you quote backing you up.
You are mistaking popularity for critical acclaim which are not the same thing. I'm sure if I trawled the internet I could find some people saying that Transformers 3 should win best film. Just because you can find other people to back up your opinion on Twitter and random film blogs doesnt make it any more valid. Even people like Mark Kermode who might well think he is important in the film industry are just people like us with an opinion which nobody who actually votes gives a toss about.
This from the BAFTA website:
http://www.bafta.org/film/awards/judging,2464,BA.html
This is the key paragraph 'The Academy’s members are individuals representing all fields of the Film, Television and Video Games industries. Each one has made a significant contribution to their particular field.'
Now call me Mr Old Fashioned but I tend to think their opinion carries more validity than all your mates on Twitter and Facebook.
By all means be disappointed that SF didnt do better but hysterical comments like 'it makes no sense', 'its a slap in the face to SF' and 'this is ridiculous' do make you sound like a teenage fanboy (well fangirl) shocked that the rest of the world doesnt agree that Twilight or Spiderman havent been acknowledged as the best film ever made.
When you can quote the likes of Martin Scorcese, Robert De Niro, Steven Spielberg and Al Pacino stating that SF has been royally screwed over then fair enough but at the moment you just have other people like you in your camp who, with the greatest respect to your good self, are all nobodies.
The best point made so far and one that everyone is overlooking. The person that matters most in the awards process is yourself.
How many awards did OHMSS win? Shit all. How many critics slagged it off? Loads. Does that stop me from loving it? No.
Its maybe a pleasant bonus to win some awards but how would you feel if DAD had blagged 10 Oscars? Would we all be saying its one of the greatest films ever made or would we still think it to be garbage? Theres only one critic that matters and thats YOU so by all means award it 15 Germanladies (do you fancy being scuplted in statuette from Germanlady?) if you want but dont be devasated and claim some sort of Watergate conspiracy when other people disagree with you.
You're describing a utopian society I'm sure we all dream of RC7 but will it ever come to pass?
Perhaps after I'm gone people will realise I was right about most things and I'll be elevated to the position of greatness and reverence that has thus far eluded me in life!
Yes, its like "You are not good enough as best film, but we give you a little pad on the back"
Well, that's what you think, but hardly the big picture.
I would say this category is more special than the Best Film. In Best Film you have American films that get included, while in this category it is just the best of British cinema. With this BAFTA nod Bond can do what he has always done: Represent for his country with only his fellow countrymen as competition. Skyfall is one of the lucky few in all of British cinema this year to get nominated in a category exclusive to his home. That is more special that a Best Film nod in my book.
He's just applying logic to the situation, unlike yourself, who's more concerned with being irrationally frustrated.
As The Wizard said, the validity of legions of people on social media sites is compromised. This isn't a people's choice award. The people already voted, with their feet and their wallets. This is determined by people who are themselves gifted in the field.
Would you prefer a fishmonger deciding whether you get promotion, or your colleagues, who understand your job? The fishmonger could have a punt on whether you're decent at what you do but the validity of their opinion is diminished next to that of your peers.
=D>
Not at all. All social media counts for nothing -period.
Social media is just people like us ranting at each other and offering their worthless opinions that no one cares about and its a bloody good thing that people who actually make decisions about things in the world do ignore it or what state would we be in.
Finally I have to side with Germanlady in this debate.
How can being one of 'the lucky few' to be nominated as best British film be a step up than best in the world which is what 'best film' is. By that rationale being nominated for best Luxembourg film or, the true Holy Grail of cinema, best Vatican film would be a bigger honour than the Oscar for best picture.
And how can SF even be considered a bona fide British film? OK the lead actors are British as is the director and a lot of the crew but whos putting the money up? I feel sorry for proper British films that have zero budgets that are likely to get steamrollered in this category by the SF juggernaut. Thats who this category should be for not massive studio films like SF that are merely made in this country. If SF cant compete in the overall best film category then tough shit. Leave the best British film for indie pictures made for peanuts.
Whatever you might say, to many its a huge surprise. And this is ALL I am saying.
You answer apples to pees.
Couldn't agree more, as I'm sure would a lot of my mates and colleagues in the film industry. It's hard enough as it is to get a 'British' film made as the yanks have our industry firmly by the balls. To have SF in the category is very much another kick in the knackers.
Yup, it doesn't belong into this category. Either BP or nothing.