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Die Another Day?
And as for the rest- you think we're ignoring all those things? Don't be silly. We're just debating, it's what the boards were created for.
Oscar voters still a snobby bunch
And this year? Nine best picture categories again, a veritable thumbing of the Academy's collective nose to another Dark Knight movie, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (this after two Lord Of The Rings movies made the cut under the old rules), Skyfall, The Avengers and The Hunger Games.
I'm not one of those people who considers Skyfall "the best Bond film ever!" But I will say, if it can't crack the list under these circumstances, no James Bond movie ever will (unless it's directed by Terence Malick and features flashbacks to the beginning of time).
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/10/oscar-voters-still-a-snobby-bunch
Bond foiled again in best picture Oscar mission
LONDON - The latest James Bond movie “Skyfall” won five Oscar nominations on Thursday, the highest tally for a 007 picture, but the major categories including best picture once again eluded the franchise that has just celebrated its 50th anniversary.
Hopes had been raised by bookmakers and some film critics that one of Britain’s most lucrative and best-loved cultural exports would finally make his mark at the Academy Awards at the 23rd time of asking.
Skyfall, the first official Bond movie to make more than $1 billion at the box office, also won rave reviews from professionals and the public.
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/10/bond-foiled-again-in-best-picture-oscar-mission
(Although it must be said, its ridiculous, the Brits are complaining ater having done the very same thing themselves, which was way worse)
Biggest Oscar snubs, surprises
2) Where the heck is Skyfall?
Or The Dark Knight Rises, for that matter? Why do some blockbusterish movies, such as Django Unchained, for example, make the Best Picture list, and a smash hit such as Skyfall is overlooked? There's always blather about 'merit' in these cases, but last time we looked, Daniel Craig was a 'real' actor and Sam Mendes was a 'real' director. So what gives? At least the whole Skyfall crew is laughing all the way to the bank.
4) Where are the acting nominations for Dame Judi Dench and Javier Bardem?
Not to beat a dead horse on the subject of Skyfall or anything, but do we all agree that Jacki Weaver or Anne Hathaway are more deserving than Dame Judi Dench for a Best Supporting Actress nod? We do not. Do we see Javier Bardem as any less memorable on his Skyfall role than Alan Arkin in Argo, say, or Robert De Niro in Silver Linings Playbook? We do not. But here may be the place to remind you, gentle reader, that much that happens in the world o' Oscar is based on who likes you and who thinks it's your turn to win. Think about it.
That would be correct. :)
What are the other stats on this though? wasn't TSWLM nominated for 2 or 3?
Three. Best Art Direction, Score and Song.
Goldfinger and Thunderball both won one each.
Finally, some damn sense in these parts. I feel like I will have to leave this thread, as some posts really sicken me.
People saying that no awards but Best Picture matter, or calling nominations for editing or music "blah" categories. Let me tell you something: How would you feel if you busted your arse to get the film together by editing or composing the music with heavy deadlines stressing you out, and then you got nominated, or even named at the Oscars? You would feel accomplished and bloody proud of your work, that's how you'd feel! These composers and editors have just as much stress at the director and actors, so I see no reason why they aren't getting the deep respect they deserve as well. As Gustav_Graves eloquently noted, filmmaking is a team effort. No categories are lesser than any others because each part (or job) forms a complete whole (the film). Without the skilled editing team we would have an incomplete jumble of film shots and dailies with no sense of order. Without the composer special moments in the film couldn't hold half as much emotional weight and power without the great music Newman gave us. EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY MATTERS.
And people can quit posting links to articles of other people being ungrateful.
Titles like "SKYFALL: SNUBBED" just because we didn't get a Best Picture or acting nod? Get over your damn selfs.
*High Five* mate ;-)
I think I might be right in saying I don't always see eye to eye with you guys. However, on this I'm certainly with you. In the context of what we're talking about, ie OSCAR, as Bond fans this is uncharted territory really. Sound Mixing, I'll take it. Patronising or not. I'm not going to get carried away with it, not by a long shot, but it's better than a kick in the knackers.
and several years later he came back as President of the awards...
Have you actually read what I have been saying? I mean....you make it look as if we are...I am very disappointed. I am THRILLED with these 5 nominations :-)! And please...stop dividing them into less prestigious and more prestigious Oscars.
Have you actually read what I have been saying? I mean....you make it look as if we are...I am very disappointed. I am THRILLED with these 5 nominations :-)! And please...stop dividing them into less prestigious and more prestigious Oscars.
Have you actually read what I have been saying? I mean....you make it look as if we are...I am very disappointed. I am THRILLED with these 5 nominations :-)! And please...stop dividing them into less prestigious and more prestigious Oscars.
Bond films with most Oscar/Golden Globe/BAFTA nominations. Oscars have priority over Golden Globes. Golden Globes have priority over BAFTA's in my list:
01) 5 Oscar nominations, 1 Golden Globe nominations, 8 BAFTA nominations: 'SKYFALL' (2012):
......Oscar - 'Best Cinematography': Roger Deakins
......Oscar - 'Best Original Music Score': Thomas Newman
......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'Skyfall' by Adele & Paul Epworth
......Oscar - 'Best Sound Mixing': Scott Millan, Greg P. Russell & Stuart Wilson
......Oscar - 'Best Sound Editing': Per Hallberg & Karen M. Baker
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'Skyfall' by Adele & Paul Epworth
......BAFTA - 'Best Supporting Actor': Javier Bardem
......BAFTA - 'Best Supporting Actress': Judi Dench
......BAFTA - 'Best British Film': Michael G. Wilson & Barbara Broccoli
......BAFTA - 'Best Cinematography': Roger Deakins
......BAFTA - 'Best Editing': Stuart Baird
......BAFTA - 'Best Original Music Score': Thomas Newman
......BAFTA - 'Best Sound': Scott Millan, Per Hallberg & Stuart Wilson
......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Dennis Gassner & Anna Pinnock
02) 3 Oscar nominations, 2 Golden Globe nominations, 2 BAFTA nominations: 'THE SPY WHO LOVED ME' (1977):
......Oscar - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam
......Oscar - 'Best Original Music Score': Marvin Hamlisch
......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'Nobody Does It Better' by Marvin Hamlisch & Carole Bayer Sager
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Music Score': Marvin Hamlisch
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'Nobody Does It Better' by Marvin Hamlisch & Carole
......BAFTA - 'Best Original Music Score': Marvin Hamlisch
......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam
04) 1 Oscar nominations, 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'FOR YOUR EYES ONLY' (1981):
......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'For Your Eyes Only' by Sheena Easton, Bill Conti & Michael Leeson
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'For Your Eyes Only' by Sheena Easton, Bill Conti & Michael Leeson
05) 1 Oscar nominations, 1 BAFTA nominations: 'GOLDFINGER' (1964):
......Oscar - 'Best Sound Effects': Norman Wanstall *WIN*
......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam
05) 1 Oscar nominations, 1 BAFTA nominations: 'THUNDERBALL' (1965):
......Oscar - 'Best Special Visual Effects': John Stears *WIN*
......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam
05) 1 Oscar nominations, 1 BAFTA nominations: 'CASINO ROYALE' (1967):
......Oscar - 'Best Original Song': 'The Look Of Love' by Dusty Springfield, Burt Bacharach & Hal David
......BAFTA - 'Best Custume Design': Julie Harris
08) 1 Oscar nominations: 'MOONRAKER' (1979):
......Oscar - 'Best Visual Effects': Derek Meddings, Paul Wilson & John Evans
09) 1 Golden Globe nominations, 1 BAFTA Award nominations: 'FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE' (1963):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'From Russia With Love' by Matt Munro, John Barry & Lionel Bart
......BAFTA - 'Best Cinematography': Ted Moore *WIN*
10) 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN' (1983):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Supporting Actress': Barbara Carrera
10) 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE' (1969):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Newcomer Actor': George Lazenby
10) 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'DOCTOR NO' (1962):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Newcomer Actress': Ursula Andress *WIN*
10) 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'A VIEW TO A KILL' (1985):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'A View To A Kill' by Duran Duran & John Barry
10) 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'TOMORROW NEVER DIES' (1997):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'Tomorrow Never Dies' by Sheryl Crow & Mitchell Froom
10) 1 Golden Globe nominations: 'DIE ANOTHER DAY' (2002):
......Golden Globe - 'Best Original Song': 'Die Another Day' by Madonna & Mirwais Ahmadzaï
16) 9 BAFTA nominations: 'CASINO ROYALE' (2006):
......BAFTA - 'Best Leading Actor': Daniel Craig
......BAFTA - 'Best British Film': Michael G. Wilson & Barbara Broccoli
......BAFTA - 'Best Cinematography': Phil Meheux
......BAFTA - 'Best Editing': Stuart Baird
......BAFTA - 'Best Sound': Chris Munro, Eddy Joseph & Mike Prestwood Smith *WIN*
......BAFTA - 'Best Original Music Score': David Arnold
......BAFTA - 'Best Visual Effects': Steven Begg, Chris Corbould & John Paul Docherty
......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Peter Lamont
......BAFTA - 'Best Adapted Screenplay': Paul Haggis, Neal Purvis & Robert Wade
17) 2 BAFTA nominations: 'GOLDENEYE' (1995):
......BAFTA - 'Best Special Effects': Derek Meddings, Chris Corbould & Brian Smithies
......BAFTA - 'Best Sound': Jim Shields, David John, Graham V. Hartstone, John Hayward & Michael A. Carter
18) 2 BAFTA nominations: 'QUANTUM OF SOLACE' (2008):
......BAFTA - 'Best Sound': James Boyle, Eddy Joseph & Chris Munro
......BAFTA - 'Best Visual Effects: Chris Corbould & Kevin Tod Haug
19) 1 BAFTA nominations: 'YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE' (1967):
......BAFTA - 'Best Production Design': Ken Adam
Sorry, I have not read all the postings here (too many), and I did not want to give the impression that I think you and other guys were stupid. I actually posted my opinion on the nominations for SF, that's all, and I certainly did not refer to your posting on the nominations (I have read by now). No offence intended. :-h :-h :-h And I agree with you that 5 nominations are indeed great!
Some magazines or sites are just as ungrateful as some here, and have Skyfall listed as SNUBBED just because it didn't get any acting or Best Picture nods. They fail to even mention the wonderful 5 we got. Imbeciles. X(
I only stated that I don't think Newman deserves an Academy Award for Skyfall. That's the only negative thing I mentioned.
And I honestly believe that Bardem deserves recognition for his performance, that's the only major disappointment I have. It's not being ungrateful at all it's just being honest and I don't think labelling people imbeciles is the appropriate way to deal with it.
The 5 categories the film was nominated in are extremely good, granted. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with aiming for the top prize, not at all. You've mentioned that filmmaking is a team effort and as an amateur filmmaker myself I can't not agree with you, but the "Best Film" award is just as much overall recognition for the work of the technical departments as the individual categories.
I wasn't talking about YOU.
Oh well, Halle Berry got hers too...
Another one?! ;)
Best Action Move-Skyfall
Best actor in action movie-Daniel Craig
Best Song-Adele
http://www.thestate.com/2013/01/11/2585315/affleck-argo-win-big-at-critics.html#.UO_NvW-Zk1Z
It more awards for Skyfall and this was voted by the critics so they love Skyfall and Craig to get these awards!
Not sure what your point is. The media ran with the 'Skyfall for Oscar' story because to your average red top reading layman, it sounds much more interesting and dynamic than 'Les Mis' or 'Lincoln' for Oscar. The fact Skyfall was critically well received and a financial juggernaut gave a false sense of reality to the situation, which the media naturally capitalised on. The fact they are now saying it was snubbed were because they were the very people who hyped it in the first place. It was never going to be nominated for best picture, so it wasn't snubbed.
Sorry chaps but I've suddenly found myself firmly in the Germanlady camp. If all awards are of equal value why do things like sound, editing etc get presented before the main show in a seemingly empty room whereas best picture and director are last and bring down a standing ovation?
I appreciate everyone involved put as much work in as anyone else and awards are of equal value to the individuals involved but for us the audience it's the big ones that count because which ever way you cut it Citizen Kane and Casablanca are still great films even if you are watching on a phone with headphones and DAD is still dogshit even on an IMAX screen with Dolby surround.
Good sound and cinematography can polish a turd yes but not intrinsically change its nature from a turd to a masterpiece.
In the interests of balance I didn't realise Germanlady also worke for the Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2260523/Oscars-2013-The-sky-falls-Bonds-bid-Oscar-glory--Adele-shout.html
Lazy journalism as they'd obviously already written an article about SF and weren't about to let the facts change that.
I'm sick of this argument 'SF was critically acclaimed and made a ton of money' as if the only thing that you need for best picture is 1billion and 5 stars in Empire. All these industry papers you go on about are not actually in the industry I'm afraid Germanlady. Academy members actually work in the industry rather than just comment on it and they didn't think SF deserved any of the big awards.
Out of interest I'm not that familiar with Thomas Newmans work. Is he one of these people who is 'overdue' an Oscar for his body of work a la Connery for The Untouchables? If so SF might benefit as he finally collects even though personally I think Arnold's TND and CR scores blow SF away (and for both these Arnold wrote stunning title songs as well) and obviously Barry goes without saying.