Skyfall Wins Bond's First Grammy -Make That Two Grammy's

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  • edited February 2013 Posts: 12,837
    RC7 wrote:
    JamesCraig wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Honestly @GG stop your ramblings. She was ****. Absolute gubbins. Anyone prepared to say the line 'Yo Momma' in a Bond film is devoid of intelligence.

    You don't have to tell people what to do in that kind of arrogant way. She isn't the best actress, but DAD's script for the most part was absolutely dreadful.

    She was dross and she agreed to say those lines. I don't care what else she's done, she was dreadful and other than Richards I'd take anyone else as an ambassador of Bond.

    Like I said, Roger Moore should've done it. He's given more to the series than any of the other actors and he still loves Bond and does Bond related events today.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited February 2013 Posts: 3,497
    RC7 wrote:
    JamesCraig wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Honestly @GG stop your ramblings. She was ****. Absolute gubbins. Anyone prepared to say the line 'Yo Momma' in a Bond film is devoid of intelligence.

    You don't have to tell people what to do in that kind of arrogant way. She isn't the best actress, but DAD's script for the most part was absolutely dreadful.

    She was dross and she agreed to say those lines. I don't care what else she's done, she was dreadful and other than Richards I'd take anyone else as an ambassador of Bond.

    Like I said, Roger Moore should've done it. He's given more to the series than any of the other actors and he still loves Bond and does Bond related events today.

    Even Moore couldn't save DAD.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Can we ease up on the use of bad language guys? I know we have slackened things a little, but by letting a few mild obseneties through it paves the way for more unacceptable language as well.

    We try to have a 'no offensive language' rule because the forums are open to younger fans as well.

  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
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    I've been to this INO!
    "Adele made sure she celebrated her Oscar win in style earlier this week by grabbing a burger at one of LA's most popular fast food joints straight after the ceremony.

    After winning her first Oscar for winning Best Original Song for her James Bond theme tune, 'Skyfall', the singer revealed what she planned to do after the event.

    She said: "I think I am going to get an In-N-Out and go home.”

    The In-N-Out burger joint on LA's Sunset Boulevard is of the city's most famous fast food stops and is often visited by the likes of David Beckham, George Clooney and Gordon Ramsey."
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    Ha. Ang Lee did the same thing that night. Must be good burgers
  • ChristartosChristartos Banned
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    Chaps.. clean up the language. WE are among friends here....
  • edited February 2013 Posts: 2,015
    Concerning Halle Berry? I was referring to her presentation of the Bond tribute at the Oscars. She did a perfect job IMO.
    No native English speakers answered me on the other thread so I'll try this one :
    When Halle Berry spoke about "exotic cars", it sounds very weird to my ears, when I google 'exotic cars' I see nothing relevant to Bond, it's not "fast and furious" or "pimp my car"... Wasn't she supposed to say "exotic locations, cars" instead, don't you think ?


  • edited February 2013 Posts: 2,081
    ^^ I'm not a native speaker, but: She said "exotic cars"? Hmph. Doesn't make sense to me, either, and your interpretation sounds correct.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Chaps.. clean up the language. WE are among friends here....

    Oh, so all the vulgarity in your posters is just fine though?
  • JamesCraig wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    JamesCraig wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Honestly @GG stop your ramblings. She was ****. Absolute gubbins. Anyone prepared to say the line 'Yo Momma' in a Bond film is devoid of intelligence.

    You don't have to tell people what to do in that kind of arrogant way. She isn't the best actress, but DAD's script for the most part was absolutely dreadful.

    She was dross and she agreed to say those lines. I don't care what else she's done, she was dreadful and other than Richards I'd take anyone else as an ambassador of Bond.

    Like I said, Roger Moore should've done it. He's given more to the series than any of the other actors and he still loves Bond and does Bond related events today.

    Even Moore couldn't save DAD.

    What does that have to do with anything? I was talking about the Oscars.
  • CatchingBulletsCatchingBullets facebook.com/catchingbullets
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    FROM OSCAR WITH LOVE... and some thoughts on the 85th Academy Awards, Bassey, Bond, Skyfall and Hathaway's new bob....

    http://www.out.com/entertainment/popnography/2013/02/28/james-bond-oscar-love-adele-shirley-bassey
  • edited February 2013 Posts: 2,189
    I love the Oscars and I knew that before Skyfall, the only Bond films to win were GF and TB, but what surprised me was how many others were nominated. Including Skyfall, 7 Bond films combined to make 13 nominations, and with Skyfall's two wins it doubled the Bond Oscar total to 4. Pretty exciting!
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 11,119
    36th edition of the Academy Awards, 1965:
    Norman Wanstall wins the Oscar for 'Best Sounds Effects' for 'Goldfinger'. It's the first ever Oscar win for a James Bond film. Remember, in 1965 there were two sound categories: 'Best Sound' and 'Best Sound Effects'. 'Best Sound' then was the equivalent of 'Best Sound Mixing' today. 'Best Sound Effects' then was the equivalent of 'Best Sound Editing' today. This Oscar was presented by Bob Hope and Angie Dickinson


    37th edition of the Academy Awards, 1966:
    One year later there was another prize for James Bond. The late John Stears won the Academy Award for 'Best Special Visual Effects' for the fourth Bond film 'Thunderball'. Ivan Tors accepted the award on behalf of John Stears. This segment was presented by Bob Hope and Dorothy Malone


    54th edition of the Academy Awards, 1982:
    Finally Bond producer Albert 'Cubby' Broccoli gets the recognition he deserves. After 20 years of working as producer on the James Bond film, he receives the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award from Bond actor Roger Moore. Also present during that Oscar gala was previous Bond producer Harry Saltzman. Other recipients of the 'Thalberg' were producers Clint Eastwood (1996), George Lucas (1993), Steven Spielberg (1988), Ingmar Berman (1972) and Alfred Hitchcock (1969)


    70th edition of the Golden Globes, 2013:
    The second ever Golden Globe win for a James Bond movie, after Ursula Andress won a Globe for 'Best Promising Newcomer' in 1964 for 'Doctor No'. This time it was Adele who won for 'Best Original Song'....as expected. Presenters of this award were Jennifer Lopez and Jason Statham


    85th edition of the Academy Awards, 2013:
    After 47 years, the Bond franchise wins again a 'Best Sound Editing' Oscar. Per Hallberg and Karen Baker follow Norman Wanstall's footsteps in editing the most captivating, original sounds for a feature film; a Bond film no less. As you know, it was a tie in this category. Presenters of this award was Mark Wahlberg. This video has been filmed backstage by the Oscar producers


    85th edition of the Academy Awards, 2013:
    And a second Oscar during the night, when Adele Adkins and Paul Epworth win the Oscar for 'Best Music: Original Song' for 'Skyfall'. The Oscar was presented by Richard Gere


    61st edition of the Academy Awards, 1989:
    Who cannot forget this wunderful triplet of actors. Sean Connery, Roger Moore and Michael Caine have some fun chitchat before they announce the 'Best Supporting Actor' Oscar to Kevin Kline:
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    ^^ Thanks! So... voted by the public, eh? I seeeeee... hrm... ok, here we are... :D

    VOTE!!!

    http://www.empireonline.com/awards2013/
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    Tuulia wrote:
    ^^ Thanks! So... voted by the public, eh? I seeeeee... hrm... ok, here we are... :D

    VOTE!!!

    http://www.empireonline.com/awards2013/

    Yeah, I know. Wrong thread. Corrected it. Results on the 24th March.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    ^^ Wrong thread?

    Anyway, I voted. Had to just throw the dice with some categories, while others were oh so easy. :P
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 11,119
    Empire Awards, well, what shall I say. Have a look:

    Empire Awards 2000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Empire_Awards:
    'The World Is Not Enough': 3 nominations, of which..
    --> 'Best Actor': Pierce Brosnan for 'The World Is Not Enough' *WON*

    Empire Awards wins, 2003 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_Empire_Awards:
    'Die Another Day': 4 nominations, of which..
    --> 'Best Film'
    --> 'Best Actress': Halle Berry for 'Die Another Day'
    --> 'Best Female Newcomer': Rosamund Pike for 'Die Another Day' *WON*
    --> 'Best Scene Of The Year': The sword fight

    Empire Awards wins, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Empire_Awards:
    'Casino Royale': 4 nominations, of which..
    --> 'Best Film' *WON*
    --> 'Best Actor': Daniel Craig for 'Casino Royale' *WON*
    --> 'Best Female Newcomer': Eva Green for 'Casino Royale' *WON*
    --> 'Best Scene Of The Year': The foot chase

    Empire Awards wins, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Empire_Awards:
    'Quantum Of Solace': 4 nominations, of which..
    --> 'Best Thriller Film' *WON*
    --> 'Best Actor: Daniel Craig for 'Quantum Of Solace'
    --> 'Best Newcomer': Gemma Arterton for 'Quantum Of Solace' *WON*
    --> 'Best Soundtrack': David Arnold for 'Quantum Of Solace'

    These awards are boring. If even new categories like 'Done In 60 Seconds' and 'Best 3D' are added to this list, then I can't take this serious. Moreover, THREE nominations back in 2003 for 'Die Another Day'. How did 'Q' say it? You MUST be joking.

    Moreover, as these online awards are suffering from huge British prejudiced voting, Daniel Craig is everytime nominated for sure in the category 'Best Actor' once there is a Bond year. Not to mention the 'Best Newcomer' Award.

    Yes, I have great respect for the choice of the public, as long as not every forummember in here starts saying "Vote 10 times for 'Skyfall'!!! ". That makes it a very predictable, boring, prejudiced Awards Ceremony if you ask me.

    Great that 'Skyfall' is nominated for 6 Empire Awards, but I can't be bothered so much about these Awards..... It'll at least win four anyway. Next...


    The idea behind the Saturn Awards in my opinion are much better. It's like the Oscars for more blockbuster oriented sci-fi/horror/fantasy movies. BUT with an Academy behind it voting for it. At the Awards already have a long tradition. Since 1972 if I'm not mistaken.
  • Posts: 2,081
    ^^ What happened to your ultra positive attitude? I seem to remember you were critical of people not being thrilled about some BAFTA and Oscars stuff, and here you go yourself...
    And btw, DAD was not in the nominations several years.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 11,119
    Tuulia wrote:
    ^^ What happened to your ultra positive attitude? I seem to remember you were critical of people not being thrilled about some BAFTA and Oscars stuff, and here you go yourself...
    And btw, DAD was not in the nominations several years.

    There is one big difference between:
    A) being critical of people posting in here and...
    B) being critical of certain awards.

    I was hugely thrilled about the Oscar, Golden Globe and BAFTA wins for 'Skyfall'. 'Skyfall' deserved these wins, both as a James Bond film but moreover as a stand-alone film. Yes. I just don't get it if people THEN get critical. Especially if it has been like 47 to 50 years since Bond won a Golden Globe or Oscar. In my opinion, it's special, it's an honour, it's more prestigious and it's something of a true recognition.

    Remember all the critics from Bond fans when Bond NEVER got nominated for an Oscar? This was the case with 'Casino Royale'. Now with 'Skyfall' we seem to get huge Oscar wins, and suddenly fans say 'we don't need these stupid awards' or 'Bond can do without these awards'. I can understand these rather blunt quotes from some kind of perspective, but it's not nice for the actual nominees and winners.

    How did Dame Judi Dench put it in her acceptance speech for her Oscar win for 'Shakespeare In Love' in 1999?:
    "...I also do think that the best bit about the Academy Awards is being nominated. You live in a kind of haze for several weeks. And the terrible thing is that somebody's got to win. So my heart goes to all the other four who didn't....."

    I think the Empire Awards should be judged as televoting awards. See it as a celebration for the people who actually made the Bond films succesful: The public. But still, with the Empire Awards there's no experienced Academy behind it which has to see all reels/screener DVD's of each nominated film/actor/score/director...etcetera. No, everyone can vote, regardless if she has seen all the nominated movies or not. One votes not with objective consience. One mostly votes with prejudiced fan eyes.

    That's not me, sorry. I love James Bond films, I have been a Bond nerd all my life. But I have been also a huge movie fan in general. So I can emotionally detach myself and say that:
    A) THAT Bond movie is truly bad and doesn't deserve any award and...
    B) THAT Bond movie is a milestone in movie history and is exquisit as a standalone film as well.....thus deserving an Oscar or Golden Globe.

    The first is certainly the case with the Empire Awards nominations for 'Die Another Day'. But the latter is the case for 'Skyfall' if you ask me.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 6,601
    So the industry, which does vote beyond sanity at times is the only worthwhile voting group? You must be joking...

    Films are made for the public and so they are the group, everybody in the industry relies on
    How can you say their vote is not valid? Even IF they are biased. They should be and vote for the film or people, they like best for some reason. I think, the ARTSY votes have have been done enough with Oscars, Baftas and whatnot. Its two different pairs of shoes IMO
    - the first group SHOULD (they don't always) vote for what they consider IS the BEST in their category.
    - the second group can just vote for what they like just because...in the end, THIS emotion is what brings buns in the seats and is always biased in a personal way.

    Both groups have their own agenda. I don't consider one superior.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    Gustav, I agree with your last points. That's also why there's no point in being dismissive of Skyfall's nominations for these awards and why I found your can't-be-bothered stance surprising (coming from you, I mean). It deserves to be nominated - and win in as many categories as possible, there, IMO. - Yes, I'm biased (because I love SF), but so is everyone else, one way or another.

    As for objectivity, there is no such thing in any awards, regardless of who gets to vote. Academy members or whoever are not more objective or any less biased or prejudiced than any member of the public.

    (Gustav, any chance you could fix your post's earlier Empire Awards nominations categories?)

  • RC7RC7
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    Public votes are skewed and most of the time bollocks.
  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
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    does anyone know if the Bassey and Adele performances will be on iTunes, for purchase.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Tuulia wrote:
    Gustav, I agree with your last points. That's also why there's no point in being dismissive of Skyfall's nominations for these awards and why I found your can't-be-bothered stance surprising (coming from you, I mean). It deserves to be nominated - and win in as many categories as possible, there, IMO. - Yes, I'm biased (because I love SF), but so is everyone else, one way or another.

    As for objectivity, there is no such thing in any awards, regardless of who gets to vote. Academy members or whoever are not more objective or any less biased or prejudiced than any member of the public.

    (Gustav, any chance you could fix your post's earlier Empire Awards nominations categories?)

    @Tuulia: I changed it ;-). Sorry for the mistake. But it makes the comparison even more strange and it makes the actual credibility of the Empire Awards even more ridiculous, no? I mean, BOTH 'Die Another Day' and 'Casino Royale' got FOUR Empire Award nominations?? Ludicrous :-P!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    There is one big difference between:
    A) being critical of people posting in here and...
    B) being critical of certain awards.

    So the BAFTA sympathy vote win for best British film is fine but the Empire awards arent?

    Or are only you allowed to decide which awards are bullshit or not?
    That's not me, sorry. I love James Bond films, I have been a Bond nerd all my life. But I have been also a huge movie fan in general. So I can emotionally detach myself and say that:
    A) THAT Bond movie is truly bad and doesn't deserve any award and...
    B) THAT Bond movie is a milestone in movie history and is exquisit as a standalone film as well.....thus deserving an Oscar or Golden Globe.

    The first is certainly the case with the Empire Awards nominations for 'Die Another Day'. But the latter is the case for 'Skyfall' if you ask me.

    Sorry to shatter your illusion but no Bond film is a milestone in movie history (except at a pinch GF for ushering in Bondmania) and SF although being very good is not exquisite either.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    Gustav, I see what you're saying, but I don't agree. If something one considers unworthy has been nominated, it doesn't follow the awards are then worthless. If that's the logic I suspect pretty much all awards would be worthless. (Different people would disagree what deserves to be nominated or not.) Having said that, I don't think any awards are THAT important. However, I would rather see Skyfall win those awards than not, as simple as that. Ultimately it doesn't matter, of course, and neither do other awards, but it would still be nice, which is why I voted. Btw, I was only having this discussion with you since you were so happy about other nominations and awards, and criticized those who weren't, and then the one the public gets to vote in is to be sneered at, in your opinion? That implies that normal people (non-Academy members etc.) and what they like is to be sneered at - that is... us. I somehow don't understand that thinking.
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 2,015
    Seth McFarlane even made a joke about the Acamedy Awards not being so important, since the Academy Award for Best Actor in 2012 is doing nothing now (as seen from US audiences, that is).

    Hey, after all, the tribute to the biggest action franchise, was introduced by Halle Berry, Academy Award winner for a drama, but having rather poor praises for action movies (and even a Razzie award). Even in Xmen movies she did not make much of an impression, and her very latest action movie was Direct to Video ! Her award was not enough to let "Jinx" happen, and I don't know many people wanting to see that film...
  • edited March 2013 Posts: 11,119
    There is one big difference between:
    A) being critical of people posting in here and...
    B) being critical of certain awards.

    So the BAFTA sympathy vote win for best British film is fine but the Empire awards arent?

    Or are only you allowed to decide which awards are bullshit or not?

    You just don't get my point. Period. While I criticise the actual Empire Awards, you criticise me. Fair enough, but can't you be a big boy and focus for once on some arguments from your side WHY the Empire Awards are better or worse than the Oscars and WHY you think the Empire Awards are way more special? Please tell me that, instead of talking crap like I decide this or that. That's bullocks. Either you swallow my opinions, highlighted by specific arguments, or you cme with some good arguments yourself. Especially arguments in an easy-to-read, articulate way.
    That's not me, sorry. I love James Bond films, I have been a Bond nerd all my life. But I have been also a huge movie fan in general. So I can emotionally detach myself and say that:
    A) THAT Bond movie is truly bad and doesn't deserve any award and...
    B) THAT Bond movie is a milestone in movie history and is exquisit as a standalone film as well.....thus deserving an Oscar or Golden Globe.

    The first is certainly the case with the Empire Awards nominations for 'Die Another Day'. But the latter is the case for 'Skyfall' if you ask me.

    Sorry to shatter your illusion but no Bond film is a milestone in movie history (except at a pinch GF for ushering in Bondmania) and SF although being very good is not exquisite either.

    So.......how would you compare 'Die Another Day' with 'Skyfall' then: two films of similar quality? Two films that BOTH deserve four of those....Empire Award nominations? Two films that BOTH were unoriginal and unimaginative?

    You don't shatter my illusions, because you consider them illusions, not me.

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    You just don't get my point. Period. While I criticise the actual Empire Awards, you criticise me. Fair enough, but can't you be a big boy and focus for once on some arguments from your side WHY the Empire Awards are better or worse than the Oscars and WHY you think the Empire Awards are way more special? Please tell me that, instead of talking crap like I decide this or that. That's bullocks. Either you swallow my opinions, highlighted by specific arguments, or you cme with some good arguments yourself. Especially arguments in an easy-to-read, articulate way.

    No you don't get my point.

    I never said the Empire awards were special, I actually agree with you that they are a load of crap (as evidenced by a) the general public get to vote for them and b) DAD won a load of them).
    The difference is that I am consistent in calling out bullshit awards whereas a few weeks ago you were getting all excited by SFs spurious 'best picture - except for the 5 films nominated for best picture' BAFTA yet now you're here saying the Empire awards are meaningless?

    The BAFTAs and Oscars are meaningful awards and I am proud that SF won 1 and 2 respectively. If you want to count the pathetic best British picture BAFTA feel free to delude yourself but everyone is well aware it was just a patronising pat on the back for 50 years and being a box office smash.


    So.......how would you compare 'Die Another Day' with 'Skyfall' then: two films of similar quality? Two films that BOTH deserve four of those....Empire Award nominations? Two films that BOTH were unoriginal and unimaginative?

    You don't shatter my illusions, because you consider them illusions, not me.

    Why are you suddenly comparing DAD and SF? I was merely picking up on your dubious comment about film B being a 'milestone in movie history' and pointing out that no Bond film can realistically lay claim to this title.

    I find it a bit rich for you to start castigating me for not providing coherent arguments when you seem singularly unable to grasp what is being said and deviate off on some random tangent.
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