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Brozzer? Looked damn handsome, a real movie star in retrospect compared to Craig, but he couldn't really care, in that he looked so tubby in key moments - in his surf suit, his fencing gear and waiting to be traded for Zao. He got paid millions for that film, you'd think he could get into shape.
I do enjoy tiny moments, the bit in Cuba where he walks through the cigar factory is pure Fleming, the view of 'Cuba' in his meeting is great but it's all ruined by the fact I just can't hear what the damn actor is saying it's all mumbley foreign stuff. So my interest is rarely rewarded.
Then again, the James Bond universe should never, ever have an actor utter a line as ridiculous as 'Your mama.'
Apologies, how could I forget that? Makes it even worse, somehow.
The Vanish okay a bit of fun, perhaps one step too far. The ice pursuit and race through the ice place are fine with me.
the Antonov sequence is a let down especially with the scene of patricide by the main villain, with any decent writers about they could have made that a bigger issue and the downfall of the man who killed his father, instead of the big SFX extravaganza.
I enjoy parts of this film, yes, but not Jinx. At all.
Even though, yes, she is very fit. (had to sneak that in quickly before @thelivingroyale, for once). ;)
Next comes the acting. Halle Berry was not good for Bond. She was obvious stunt casting because of X-Men and Monster's Ball. It would have been great to have Wai Lin come back. Toby Stephens isn't a bad actor. I think he's rather competant. But the idea of a North Korean having Magic Plastic Surgery Gene Therapy to becoming a British Man was the film's biggest weakness. I'd rather they kept Will Yun Lee and have him lie and discredit Bond to make him look like a Bad guy. Die Another Day is enjoyable in the It's a bad cheesy movie, but It had so much potential to be a great thriller.
Thanks. I think she is highly underrated, Her return would have been a lot better than random NSA agent Jinx. ;)
Ennnnnh, wrong answer Hans!
Good thing that Jinx spinoff never happened.
Is it redundant to quote the OP? I thought I would to bring things back to the original topic since we're about 855 posts in.
Anyway, since I'm the type of person who can always empathize with where someone's coming from a little bit, and feels the need to defend everything, even one of his three least favorite Bond movies:
1. As a blanket statement, I've been saying to people for a while that DAD was a thrill to see on the big screen, but loses its luster with repeated viewings on DVD. That's the exact opposite of the way I feel about QoS, where the quick-edited action sequences were nearly motion-sickness-inducing on the big screeen, but the film as a whole is easier to enjoy on the small scale of a television. Anyway, even the most absurd moments, like the para-sailing in Iceland, I found quite thrilling on the 40th Anniversary of the Bond franchise seeing DAD theatrically for the first time.
2. Another statement about the film as a whole: I've always felt that, with the Brosnan era, Pierce Brosnan grew more comfortable with the role of Bond each film, even if the quality of scripts and directing diminished. Pierce may not be my favorite Bond, but I feel like his performance was better than the movie deserved. While GoldenEye may be a better film as a whole, Pierce was a better Bond in DAD.
3. "Saved by the bell." It may be a cheesy pun, but considering the long list of cheesy puns over the previous 19 movies, it was par for the course.
4. You guys can trash talk Madonna all you want. I wouldn't exactly consider myself a fan. But she is from my hometown of Bay City, Michigan so . . . Represent!
5. The brilliant meta-reference to Bond being an ornithologist. A lot of the self-referential stuff gets annoying on repeated viewings, but a nod to Bond's origins in Fleming's mind will always be classy.
6. The sword fight. As Bond is an action hero that throughout the franchise had been capable of pretty much any action cliche necessary, I always thought it would only be a matter of time before he got around to the most classic of swashbuckling tropes, sword fighting! And that scene did not disappoint.
7. "Diamonds are foreveryone." Ah. I see what Toby Stephens' character did there.
8. As said before, John Cleese as Q. A very worthy successor to Desmond Llewelyn. I look forward to seeing Ben Whishaw evolve in the role, but wish John Cleese could have had a few more go's at the character besides TWINE, DAD, and a couple video games. "You're cleverer than you look." "Still better than looking cleverer than you are." Actually up there with the best exchanges between 007 and Q.
8b. That ring, as a Q gadget, is actually pretty cool and practical, especially in the Bond film where the freakin' Aston Martin turns invisible.
9. Judi Dench's scenes as M. Never disappointing in a Bond film. She's actually had great chemistry with both Brosnan and Craig. And her scene with Rosamund Pike, where it's clear that M, as in Fleming's novels and Casino Royale, knows Bond is a "blunt instrument" and that, as is the pattern from the previous 18 films, his specialty is being flashy and causing destruction.
10. The car battle between Bond and Zao. Both cars are eye candy. Plus, ever since Q equipped Bond's Aston Martin with gadgets in Goldfinger, it was only a matter of time before Bond finally had to duke it out with a villain with a car as tricked out as his!
And, I can actually go even further than 10! From racking my brain to remember things I actually liked about this one, it seems better than I remember.
11. Certain lines of dialogue. Most of it's cheese, but there's a few I've already mention. Plus, a few that belong in better Bond movies, such as Bond's final exchange with Graves: "Time to face destiny!" "Time to face gravity." Imagine that in another Bond movie, say, for instance, Sean Connery saying that to Gert Frobe in Goldfinger before the cabin became depressurized, and it would actually be pretty classic.
11b. Also, it's kind of a cool villain death. The super suit doesn't belong in a Bond movie, but Graves' end seems fitting. Especially in retrospect, when two years later Disney/Pixar offed their villain the same way in The Incredibles.
12. One of the sacred rules of the Bond franchise has always been that Bond's relationship with Moneypenny stay platonic. DAD found a way for Moneypenny to finally have a love scene with Bond, and still not technically break that rule.
One of the worst in the series, for sure, but where Moonraker (which I still consider far worse) was trying too hard to be Star Wars, DAD was just trying to live up to the formula established by the previous forty years of movies, and then multiply that to the 11th power, which unfortunately seemed to result in self-parody rather than a solid movie. Good thing reboots came into vogue shortly afterwards, so Casino Royale could prove it was possible to nix the established formula and still make a Bond film.
Exactly. And all Bond entertain me royally.
I hate to say it, but Bay would probably have done better than Tamahori.
I have absolutely no doubt that Bay would have done a better job.
Don't forget this is the man who made Pearl Harbour.
I liked The Rock but given a choice of Transformers 2 and DAD I'd pick DAD. I can't remember feeling so flat-out bored any other time in the cinema than when I was watching ROTF.
At least with DAD I have a bit of fun laughing at it.
- car chase
- Brosnan
- Miranda Frost
-..... that's literally it.
Yes, a lot happens in those few nanoseconds. That's something that is criminally overlooked by many in my view.
Well it was something different I suppose, but look where that led us in the next three...
I enjoy the bullet too, and the fact that it could only have worked in that particular film. Although, thinking about it now, perhaps it could've worked in a more serious film *provided* the gun barrel leads directly into the song like CR, and the bullet is then seen from behind travelling through the title sequence not unlike in QOS.
My thought exactly. When you see that bullet going off in slow mo...