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It is the icing on top of a very shit cake.
Wow! :-O
I thought it was the worst thing we've ever seen MP in. It's an insult to me, as a Bond fan, and to MP, as a lovable character.
You'd have thought they'd have learnt their lesson from the first time.
Nah, it's just another defect of an already monstrous film. I don't see any reason as to why the filmmakers would want to emulate a scene that wasn't well received in the first place.
Plus, the stunt work in the snowboarding scene is actually quite impressive, whereas the DAD scene is just pure and utter pigeon poo.
It is weird though to copy something that's almost universally regarded as utterly naff, and then make it even naffer with CGI. As you say, at least the stunt work in AVTAK is real and looks pretty cool, if it wasn't ruined by the Beach Boys.
I don't think they copied it, rather it was just an unintentional similarity.
You could say the climax upon the cargo plane where Bond and Jinx escape the wreck in the helicopter is a reference to the cargo plane scene in TLD, where Bond and Kara use the jeep to escape.
Bond was only about rehashing stuff during the Brosnan era.
The end result is monstrous, if you pardon the pun.
Except it wasn't The Beach Boys.
It was a cover. Which makes it even worse. ;-)
It feels very mundane and has an unconvincing Moore getting all pervy with George Best's girlfriend...and I haven't included the Beach Boys cover. I just MIGHT prefer the PTS of DAD actually.
I'm sure you might ;)
AVTAK has Roger Moore's stunt double snowboarding to the beach boys then banging a girl who's at least 30 years younger than him. Barry's score is great and the stunt work is good but that's about it. The whole thing (Bond escaping some Russians in a snowy setting) is really nothing new and the iceberg submarine with the British flag is just naff.
AVTAK, while a pretty crap film, is better than DAD. But when comparing the PTS of each, it's not even close imo.
But hey, they fixed all of that two years later. ;-)
That's just being snobby.
I'm not defending the VR stuff in DAD, that's one of the reasons I hate the film, but to dismiss videogames entirely and say films should never be influenced by them is pretty stupid.
Some of the best writing I've ever seen in recent years has been in video games (The Walking Dead game for example is amazingly written, it's better than the show and it grabs you emotionally more than most blockbusters do, including the Bond films, and the character development in Assassin's Creed is better and more believeable than pretty much every big blockbuster films, including Bond).
Plus I think games as a whole are much more original than films (film studios wouldn't have the balls to make something like Dishonoured, a gothic, ultra violent revenge story set in an old fashioned, Victorian, steampunky world) and there's a level of interactivity you get with games that you don't get with films, you feel much closer to characters if you've actually controlled them rather than watched them and since games are longer you get to spend way more time with them (using Assassin's Creed as an example again, you play as Ezio for three games that pretty much cover his entire life so when he does die, it's much sadder than most films).
If you ever have some spare cash get an xbox or a playstation and you'll see that games have come a long way sincs the 90s.
Love Toby Stephens, yeah, that's right.
The first half is bang on the money, the final quarter/fifth is totally mishandled but shows glimpses of what could've been. In better hands the Moon/Graves dynamic could have been executed much better. The Iceland scenes are at the apex of filmic wank. The only redeeming feature is the car chase, the rest is borderline diabolical. The slow-mo of Zao pretending to be Neo as he interrogates Jinx is the single worst shot of the series (worse than the surfing, as it's a real f****** shot of a real man and it still looks crap).
Other than that, it's bloody fun and I'll take that over tedium, boredom, pretentiousness etc.
AVTAK is not to my liking because Moore was truly passed it. He should have gone out on 'All Time High' in the previous installment.
Having said that it's miles better than DAD. I'm not going to repeat DAD's flaws, as I'm sure they've been discussed at nauseum here.
I have to make special mention of Toby Stephens however. He in particular was a joke in DAD, hamming it up to the max. His sneer still gets me to this day & he's the only main villain I've seen who can match Brosnan for overacting (they made a fine pair in that fencing fight, pouting, sneering & making funny faces at one another like a bunch of wankers).
RE: DAD's pretitles, the only bit I enjoyed was the Korean kicking in the chap in the bag.
AVTAK is awesome. In all honesty, though, I don't class any Bond as 'bottom of the barrel'. The canon is 50 Shades of Awesome for me, it's just some deliver more shades than others.
This is pretty much my ethos when it comes to the Bond series.
And of course the excellent Rosamund Pike (who could not save it but delivered a career making performance).
I agree that DAD is more enjoyable than TWINE, which was quite boring to me.
I think Brosnan gave a very good performance in DAD for the most part. The shoe was beginning to fit (apart from some typically sappy parts during his Jynx rescue towards the end at the Ice Palace).
Then again most Bonds have. :)) I think DAD has a great first half and
A much weaker second half.
Although I really love the hovercraft chase in the PTS.
Don't forget the Bourne films, which along with the F&F and XxX just embarrassed the Bros Bonds.
Yep to all this.