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Glad to hear someone else shares my view that GE is a pile of steaming mess. Literally never understood why so many seemingly sane members on here seem to idolise it.
I can only assume it's an age thing and somehow bizarrely related to the success of the computer game.
GE is dire from start to finish IMO. And that score... Makes you want to gouge your ears out.
DAD was an entirely predictable end to an utterly abysmal chapter in Bond history.
It's always been a favourite for me.
Eventhough it has its flaws, its still got lots of positive aspects (Isabella Scoropco is great, Judi Dench as M is great, Gotfried John is great, Samantha Bond is great, Famke Janssen is great and Robbie Coltrane is great).
...and I own the score on cd.
I will admit that aspects of it don't hold up so well. Some of the dialogue is pretty cheesy and the models/sets look more obvious now than they ever did. Alec Trevelyan is also a very underwritten character.
That said, I do think that the action and most of the performances are good. It's a lot better than Brozza's other films.
Yes. 100% agree.
I think Brosnan was just 'ok' and the worst of an excellent. bunch who have played 007 thus far.
I too literally never understood why so many members on here seem to idolise GE. I don't think it's bad, just very average. Brosnan's performance is satisfactory before it declined film by film. The score of GE is awful (bar the gunbarrel sequence and the tank chase). The tone is slightly darker (which I like) and the cinematography impressive. But it's still all very.....well........ 'middle of the road'.
I cringed at that line when I first heard it. To me it just sounded cheesy.
When my wife pointed out that Natalya seemed to go several days without changing her clothes it put me off her a little. Alec said she tasted of strawberries but somehow I doubt it.
That line is.
Quite a few lines are actually:
The massage scene:
"Oh I know OF him (Largo) I know he owns many beautiful things"
I wonder if he's talking about Domino it's so subtle. Piss off Sean.
I would insist that a prospective writer be forced to watch the first 4 Bond films (and particularly the Terence Young trio) on loop for a while in a closed room before getting to work.
Excellent point.
Judging from where Severnaya is on the map it must have taken her a good 4 or 5 days on the train (which I know from experience have their own special aroma after about 12 hours) to get to St P and then shes collared by Xenia and held captive for say another day? Even if she got the chance to have a shower when she was in the cell those clothes are still going to be reeking.
I still would though.
Really, what's the best you can say about this line? "Oh that was terrible. But come on, it's a Bond movie. They've always been like this." People say the same thing whenever the series is disappointing and embarrassing. For example, Spectre. Bond destroys an entire compound with a couple bullets and the useless female lead is constantly taken captive? "Well, that's just what Bond films are like. This is all you can expect."
No, not all Bond films are like that, and although audiences might expect bullshit, nobody actually wants it. When critics or audiences shrug and say "eh, it's just a Bond film," I have to wonder if they actually enjoy the films, or if they just consider Bond the celluloid equivalent of a meal at McDonald's.
All of this to say that appealing to the lowest common denominator is a stupid way to make a movie. This attitude informed a few moments in GE... And then this attitude blossomed as Brosnan's films continued and finally spawned an entire film in Die Another Day. Which, along with TWINE, was an insidious event in the world of Bond. Like it or not, DAD and TWINE are now considered "Bond" to some people. Those films brought Bond to a new low of crassness, sleaziness, gimmickry and series self-cannibalism. Let's hope the films never go back there again.
As I said before, I think SP had a few moments that echoed that aspect of self-parody too.
I still remember cringing during the car chase when New York New York came on - an old joke that's been done to death in other films already.
I think Connery has the charm to pull off all the 'cheesy lines' as does Moore.
I still think they came off as corny in NSNA.
You wouldn't have got that sort of line in an early Connery film.
I do remember thinking he was acting like an ageing dad when I was watching NSNA. Saying stuff that old fat men would find hilarious.
I must say that I enjoy much of the other three Brosnan films and think that they are unfairly treated since we have a new Bond for a decade now. I think that both GE and TWINE had many good ideas that are actually better executed than in some Craig films that followed these ideas. Especially Skyfall enormously borrows from GE and TWINE and I always found that despite the better cinematography and the good acting in Skyfall the plot is badly developed. Silva's motivation is completely unclear and feels forced to me. Trevelian's as well as Elektra's motivations are much more feasible and they are better integrated in the main plot. However, people here tend to reduce the quality of a Bond film to the abandonment of bad one liners and silly jokes. I personally care more about interesting plot elements, plot twist, charismatic viallains or allies.
But that is one of my absolute favourite lines from a Bond film. Ever. I disagree. I don't see the self-cannibalism.
I agree it's a great line.
"Do you know how to disarm the weapon?"
"I suppose that depends on what kind of weapon you're talking about disarming".
It sounds weird but when coming up with new dialogue, the trick is to imagine SC saying the line. If it sounds right, then it fits the TY era. If you cant imagine him saying the line (and there is so much dialogue within the Bond franchise that SC would never say), then its no good. It is possible to go back to the feel of the TY era without going back in time and putting Bond back in the 60s
Good luck - make sure you've got your pain killers handy you'll need them!