The Dark Knight Rises :: July 2012 (Spoilers)

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  • edited August 2011 Posts: 2,782
    Anne baby has said the outfit we see is only a tenth of what's it's going to be like...Nolan is playing us, letting what he wants out shown. I just hope that Anne has a peel away patch on the suit for when she wants to go to the loo.

    http://www.totalfilm.com/news/anne-hathaway-defends-her-dark-knight-rises-outfit
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    That's disgusting.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    it's not a vehicle, it's the bat wing

    people at slashfilm should do a bit more research before typing the article

    http://www.imagebam.com/image/f83b0d144616316
  • Posts: 5,767
    Isn´t the bat wing also a vehicle?
  • Posts: 1,894
    it's not a vehicle, it's the bat wing
    The Batwing is a plane. A plane is a kind of vehicle. Therefore, the Batwing is a vehicle.
    people at slashfilm should do a bit more research before typing the article
    I think somebody else needs to do some reseach ...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Indeed. Like when it was stated for fact that Catwoman has to wear goggles.
  • That's disgusting.
    That's dedication to her being an actor. I think Chris Revees had one, as did Michelle FFFFFFIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFPPHHHHHER when she palyed cat woman.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm pretty sure it's a vehicle.
  • Posts: 1,894
    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50791

    Apparently it's a helicopter, with the rotor blades to be added in post-production. Which makes sense, since they'd be very dangerous to actually be fully functioning. It also looks like it ejects from the Tumbler, not unlike the Batpod - the cockpit is identical, and those two turbines look like they'd fit into the front wheel supports. I guess that since the Batpod has already been ejected from its Tumbler, Batman didn't feel the need to add it into another Tumbler.

    It's also interesting to see that between the Batcopter and the sequence at Heinz Field, Nolan is using a lot more CGI this time around. He's always gone in for practical effects where possible (which is why I have so much respect for him) to the extent that he actually tried to build a Tumbler that would eject the Batpod in THE DARK KNIGHT. In the end, it wasn't possible, so they had to use CGI for a one-second shot. In fact, that shot, the sonar system and Dent's scars were the only obviously-CGI effects I could see in the entire film. All the same, there are film makers out there who would make the entire Batcopter with CGI effects. Nolan's still got it rigged onto what looks like a spare Tumbler chassis. I suppose his work on INCEPTION inspired a bit more confidence in the use of CGI, but I'm happy that there's still someone out there who is willing to put the time and effort into practical effects.
  • edited August 2011 Posts: 5,767
    That Batwing looks more alien than anything I´ve seen so far from C&A.

    This one looks a bit Mad Max-y. Nice :-) .
    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50791
  • Posts: 1,894
    It'll probably look a lot more conventional once the rotor blades have been added in post-production.

    It's interesting that there's no apparent anti-torque device. There's no finial for a seconary rotor or fin to be mounted on. I'm guessing it will use a coaxial or tandem rotor, maybe mounted on the underside. Coaxial seems more likely, since it's a small helicopter.
  • It'll probably look a lot more conventional once the rotor blades have been added in post-production.

    It's interesting that there's no apparent anti-torque device. There's no finial for a seconary rotor or fin to be mounted on. I'm guessing it will use a coaxial or tandem rotor, maybe mounted on the underside. Coaxial seems more likely, since it's a small helicopter.
    You do realise, it's just a film and it's not real. Like it's not real, it's make believe.

  • Posts: 1,894
    Yes, I do know that. But I also know that Nolan has made a point of grounding his films in reality. Particularly when it comes to the villains and technology. Every gadget Batman has used has come with a plausible explanation as to its origins. If this is indeed a helicopter, I'm curious as to how it will work within the world of the film.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
    edited August 2011 Posts: 823
    It'll probably look a lot more conventional once the rotor blades have been added in post-production.

    It's interesting that there's no apparent anti-torque device. There's no finial for a seconary rotor or fin to be mounted on. I'm guessing it will use a coaxial or tandem rotor, maybe mounted on the underside. Coaxial seems more likely, since it's a small helicopter.
    the whole thing mounted on that off road ATV 4x4 and the ATV drives around and the camera only frames the batwing part and it looks like it's flying and the rest is done by CGI.

    what a piece of crap!!

    at least the DeLorean in Back To The Future (go look at the production documentaries on the DVDs) look like it was floating and flying for real!!

    HaHa!

    Christian Bale's Batman can't drive/fly it!!

    http://www.movieweb.com/news/batwing-suffers-major-accident-on-set-of-the-dark-knight-rises

    Nolan, you suck!!
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    Um, why does he suck exactly?
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    look at that bat wing on that ATV off road 4x4, the whole thing is out of balance, can't even drive down the road normally

    he could had used full scale models shells and a crane, like they did for the Harrier in True Lies or the DeLorean in Back to the Future

    so that accident it got into: haha, he deserves it, poor choice of SFX Vehicle Prop!!
  • Posts: 1,894
    This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say you're looking for things to criticise about the film and Nolan: you're completely ignoring established facts.
    the whole thing mounted on that off road ATV 4x4 and the ATV drives around and the camera only frames the batwing part and it looks like it's flying and the rest is done by CGI.
    It's a common tactic for this kind of scene. Probably because making an actual, working model would be too expensive.

    Look at the scene in CASINO ROYALE where Bond flips the Aston Martin. In order to shoot it, the production crew used a ramp to get the car up on two wheels and a nitrogen canister to propel it over. Yet neither the ramp nor the canister are visible in the final film. Why? Because removing things in post-production is commonly done. Likewise the scene where the plane causes the police car to be blown over - the car was hooked up to a crane that flung it down the runway. But again, no crane is visible.
    Christian Bale's Batman can't drive/fly it!!
    That's not Christian Bale piloting it. It's a dummy. The car itself is controlled from the ATV it is mounted on. The gyroscopic rig which controls the movements of the Batwing are either controlled by someone on the sidelines, or with a pre-programmed computer that will move the gyroscope in accordance with a series of timed movements.
    look at that bat wing on that ATV off road 4x4, the whole thing is out of balance, can't even drive down the road normally
    It's not mean to drive down the road "normally". It's a helicopter, so of course it's going to bank and pivot around corners. Don't tell me you've never seen a helicopter fly.
    he could had used full scale models shells and a crane
    That's exactly what this is: a full-scale model mounted onto a rig to help film it. It just doesn't have rotor blades attached because they'd be so damn dangerous.

    For someone who claims to know a lot about film, you know alarmingly little.
  • Posts: 5,767
    First of all, the article claims a "major accident" and says that the repair took "more than one hour".
    More than one hour? That means less than two hours, otherwise those who claim a "major accident" would have written "more than two hours!"
    Now, during a shot of that proportion, two hours are what? The time they need to adjust the lighting or microfones alone probably. So probably by the time they were finished with adjusting the lights or the microfones, the repair was also finished. So apart from some spare parts there probably weren´t even extra costs involved.
    Man, a major accident is when they have to interrupt shooting for a week or so. One or two hours of repair is not an accident at all, that´s expected collateral.

    And, j7wild, I´m sure you can indulge us with more accurate comments than what you wrote above ;-) .
  • Posts: 1,894
    It's major in the sense that there is only one Batwing model. Any kind of damage that could not be repaired on-site would inevitably delay production.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    at least the DeLorean in Back To The Future (go look at the production documentaries on the DVDs) look like it was floating and flying for real!!

    HaHa!

    Christian Bale's Batman can't drive/fly it!!

    http://www.movieweb.com/news/batwing-suffers-major-accident-on-set-of-the-dark-knight-rises

    Nolan, you suck!!
    @j7, I sometimes find your reasoning very curious. What matters is how things will look in the finished film. If CGI is applied, but if it works, then what's the big deal? Only children expect the stuff that works in films to also work for real. Unfortunately, the chances for that are slim when we're talking Batman.

    You mention the DeLorean. Yes, it looks fine and indeed it convinces on screen. But we can safely assume it never flew for real. That, however, doesn't make it any less impressive.

    You say Nolan sucks, but sir you wouldn't be able to write a single page of script on his level, you wouldn't be able to even set up a single shot the way he does and you would never get the critical acclaim that Nolan gets. If you dislike the man, fine, but at least conjure up arguments that make sense. You are now attacking the man based on a few clips from the making of this film. You're making no more sense than those idiots back in the day of CR who claimed the film would be a total failure because Craig had hurt himself during the shoot.

    Your whole line of thought is so full of holes and lacking legitimacy, it borders on madness. It seems you're just looking for any excuse to repeat that Nolan sucks. Why, sir? You can't stand the fact that this man produces generally well-favoured films? You think it's 'in vogue' to say Nolan doesn't deserve the positive criticism he gets? From what I can say, you're almost OCD'ing on this anti-Nolan thing. This entire thread you've been looking for excuses to make foolish claims that this film will be a total failure even before it has been made, released and watched! Unfortunately, none of those make sense. We move from ridiculous statements concerning Catwoman's costume to pointless bickering about vehicles being transported on and off set.

    I think you need to cool down and mature in this matter. If you maintain the notion that TDKR and his filmmakers suck, then please ignore the film is made. In a couple of years, Warner might launch a new Batman series that's more up to your incredibly weird standards. Or you can also patiently wait till you have seen the finished film and then state your reasons for liking or disliking the film and at least we can debate using tangible arguments. I should tell you that is what most adults do.

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    Round one to @dathdimi
  • doubleonothingdoubleonothing Los Angeles
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    I'm beginning to suspect that J7 is a brilliantly conceived hoax.
  • LudsLuds MIA
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    For someone who claims to know a lot about film, you know alarmingly little.
    @shadowonthesun - Please keep on topic and avoid such provocations.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I wonder how well TDKR is going to at the BO. I doubt it can surpass TDK's numbers. Some critics out there are most likely to call it a failure when it indeed doesn't, even if the TDN went astronomical with its BO takings. If it makes anything above 600 mil, I'd be happy.

    This could be Warner's first third superhero film in a canon to actually be good. Superman 3 and Batman Forever were, at least IMO, a lot worse than the two films preceding them.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2011 Posts: 13,355
    I would say around $900,000 million. Just look at Inception and the love for The Dark Knight as a film. This is also the last film in the series, that can only help it further - just look at Harry Potter.

    You're right DD, this won't top The Dark Knight but it'll be very close and will still be one of the biggest films of the year with only The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey topping it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The Hobbit will no doubt make tons of money. I'd be surprised if it didn't. TDKR will indeed benefit from it being the final film in Nolan's trilogy, you're right Samuel.

    Amazing that despite BB doing only modestly well, they kept going with the same team. And it paid off. TDKR is most likely to make them a lot of money as well. Hopefully they don't sell the rights to Cannon films, who will then proceed by making Batman: The Quest For Peace. ;;)
  • Posts: 1,894
    Some critics out there are most likely to call it a failure when it indeed doesn't
    David Edelstein gave TDK a negative review just to get people to read his review in the first place. There was a glut of positive reviews at the time, and Edelstein was one of the last ones to the table. He obviously wanted to get some readership, and so ran a negative final score without actually giving any reason for it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Anne Hathaway puts a smile on my face:

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