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Que ? The Venice portion of MR is an iconic Bond moment, a true gem, one of the best moments in the entire Bond franchise.
You must mean the one in CR. That one´s ok but the MR bit is great.
Yep. The Venice portion of MR is cult classic.
Common sense dictates however, and maybe for the last time, that it is merely a sequence of silly, adolescent nonsense. Moore or not
It may well be 'gems or best franchise moments' if one likes their 007 movies of clown proportions with a red nose on top, but for those of us who like our Bond adventures serious and straight faced, it can only be met with some degree of umbrage
Exactly how I feel @Baltimore_007, and I agree on your statement previously.
QoS should prepare for a beating!!
And why should EON only listen the ones who want Bond more serious ? Why should the ones who love YOLT, MR, DAF, DAD, OP never be satisfied or cared about ? Sooner or later the franchise will be sillier and more campy again, and you can constantly whine and moan about it just like some of us have been doing since Bond has been too serious.
It'll get no punching from me that's for sure.
@Baltimore_007, @DaltonCraig007 is allowed his opinions.
(No matter how odd they are ....)
Yes I want Bond serious, that's me, I understand there are thousands of Bond fans out there who are all different, some want action, some want clown moments, some want serious, some want ass clowning around etc etc, there are a diversity of opinions. That's all very well, it's just that we take issue with them sometimes
I did write much more than this, screen went static, lost all my goddamn work and can't get it back so I'll leave it at that, in a rush also
Also Octopussy wins over QOS by some distance
And Yes Dalton Craig is allowed his say, we all are, we're all here to agree and disagree, that's what makes a forum work. I thought the Venice pigeons, Bondola, whole sequence was horrendous, someone thought otherwise - That is all very well, no harm done
Keep this going and all
Not fleshing QOS's script and story before filming.....
I'm sure EON didn't predict the Writer's Strike. They just went about their process the way they always have but got screwed when the strike came.
This is a great one. The reboot was so successful, critically and financially--Bond was suddenly very culturally relevant again, beyond the hardcore fans.
I think Eon made two crucial miscalculations with QoS:
1. Rushing out Craig's second Bond film, writers' strike or no (which they could have seen coming). Craig's performance was widely praised by critics and the public; that goodwill wouldn't have gone away even if his second film took awhile.
2. Jettisoning Fleming, right after embracing him! Returning to the CR novel was so smart. Why they wouldn't mine what remaining Fleming they could in QoS (a la FYEO, OP, and TLD) defies comprehension.
- Not using the BMW 850. They could have given him that in Goldeneye instead of that Z3 with the hairdressers 1.6 litre engine.
I think the biggest missed opportunity was DAF. They could have done an amazing follow up to OHMSS with Lazenby and Savalas. It would have been great to see an early Bond film based on revenge with Bond going all out to bring Blofeld to justice and have a proper final confrontation. Instead we have Blofeld hanging in a mini sub and then being dropped in a chimney, neither great ends to the best villain in bonds history.
2. TMWTGG pulling a bugs bunny and taking that wrong turn at Albuquerque.. the film could've been slightly darker, and more of the thriller variety, especially with a talent the likes of Christopher Lee as the villain - and it seemed to want to start down that path, but once Bond goes to Karate school, the film sputters and crawls to a less than merciful end. - also.. the Solex was a completely useless McGuffin, and did not need to be included in the plot..
3. Dalton should've been Bond in AVTAK instead of Grandpa Moore..
4. Dalton should've waited just a little bit longer before walking out, so he could've returned in GE..
5. DAD... all 2+ hours of it..
6. QOS rushing through pre-production to get the script done (which they didn't)... they should've waited, and pushed back the release to 2009 to properly get a story and everything in order..
In GoldenEye, we never got to see Jack Wade bomb around in the Z3.
"What does this button do, Jimbo?"
KABOOM!!!
Normally I'd go with the opposite, I'm very much thankful that crackwhore didn't get to sing a Bond theme, but an even lesser talented and washed up crackwhore did sing DAD, and well we all know how bad the song was in QOS so she likely could have done better in both cases. Still no missed opportunity imo, but could have been an improvement.
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IMO her new song is very good.
Dalton acting from 1983 til 1995.
Bond17 film with Dalton in 1991.
Brosnan's fourth film in 2004.
No reboot DAD/CR, so we could see Craig with Moneypenny.
In 1991 Bond17, the Singing Revolution theme could be used (I live in Lithuania, so it would be great to see 007 in this Europe place during indefinate situation when Soviets shoots people saving the TV Tower and Parliament.
CR without Vesper's death and no sequel in QoS.
Use of 007 theme since Moonraker.
DAD without Jinx and without so much of CGI. Invisible car isn't as so as sin for me.
Aston Martin in Moore's and Brosnan's eras.
Her death, and specifically its effect on Bond, is the point of the story!