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  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Another (final) controversial opinion regarding MR:

    There's a slightly homosexual feeling about Moore's Bond in the film.

    Who am I to argue your personal feelings. ;)

    What ever makes you happy.

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2014 Posts: 11,189
    Haha, probably my overactive mind. I just don't find it hard to imagine Moore's MR Bond deciding to come out of the closet after becoming bored following years of spying and womanising:



    Both Lloyd and Bond in MR don't seem all that different.

  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,514
    From what I've seen from most people around here, it would be controversial for me to say Skyfall is one of the best Bond films. I've seen more people putting it down that praising it for the last year or so, but I still love it and consider it one of the all-time greats. People complain about stuff like plot holes, but big deal, every Bond movie (and most fictional movies I know) have them.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,837
    FoxRox wrote:
    From what I've seen from most people around here, it would be controversial for me to say Skyfall is one of the best Bond films. I've seen more people putting it down that praising it for the last year or so, but I still love it and consider it one of the all-time greats. People complain about stuff like plot holes, but big deal, every Bond movie (and most fictional movies I know) have them.

    I think the massive ammount of hype surrounding the film meant that there was more of a backlash against it. I agree that it's brilliant. I think it's a top ten film and Craig's best Bond movie yet.

    I don't think I'll ever understand why some people prefer QOS. To each his own I guess and obviously everybody has their own opinion, etc, but I think SF is a better movie on pretty much every level (apart from the score and the fight scenes).
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,514
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    FoxRox wrote:
    From what I've seen from most people around here, it would be controversial for me to say Skyfall is one of the best Bond films. I've seen more people putting it down that praising it for the last year or so, but I still love it and consider it one of the all-time greats. People complain about stuff like plot holes, but big deal, every Bond movie (and most fictional movies I know) have them.

    I think the massive ammount of hype surrounding the film meant that there was more of a backlash against it. I agree that it's brilliant. I think it's a top ten film and Craig's best Bond movie yet.

    I don't think I'll ever understand why some people prefer QOS. To each his own I guess and obviously everybody has their own opinion, etc, but I think SF is a better movie on pretty much every level (apart from the score and the fight scenes).

    I must agree the score was wasn't my favorite (I liked a few tracks, mostly just near the end though), and some fight scenes could have been better (The Patrice one was neat though). QoS is definitely the weakest of the 3 so far to me, but still really good. I still prefer CR over both actually, but enjoy all 3, and it seems like Skyfall is the most underrated (or perhaps tied with QoS).
  • 001bondfan001bondfan
    Posts: 11
    Thunderball is a completely overrated film which was just mediocre from start to finish . Moonraker is the 4th best in the series behind Casino Royale, Goldfinger and Goldeneye in my opinion. World is not enough and Licence to kill are great bond films and DAF and You only live twice are absolute bores. All in my opinion
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,514
    001bondfan wrote:
    Thunderball is a completely overrated film which was just mediocre from start to finish . Moonraker is the 4th best in the series behind Casino Royale, Goldfinger and Goldeneye in my opinion. World is not enough and Licence to kill are great bond films and DAF and You only live twice are absolute bores. All in my opinion

    Welcome to the community! I agree with the Thunderball, TWINE and LTK parts you said.
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
    Posts: 1,394
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Another (final) controversial opinion regarding MR:

    There's a slightly homosexual feeling about Moore's Bond in the film.

    Wow.I dont know how you could have gotten that impression from Moores Bond, and from Moonraker? The one where he sleeps with a record amount of women?

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2014 Posts: 11,189
    AstonLotus wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Another (final) controversial opinion regarding MR:

    There's a slightly homosexual feeling about Moore's Bond in the film.

    Wow.I dont know how you could have gotten that impression from Moores Bond, and from Moonraker? The one where he sleeps with a record amount of women?

    Yeah I know he does, but there just seems to be something shall I say...happy about his portrayal. As I said before he seems kind of similar to the character he played in Boat Trip at times. In an alternate universe the Bond from MR would go on to become Lloyd . He'd get bored with women ;)
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    He is very camp in MR.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    AstonLotus wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Another (final) controversial opinion regarding MR:

    There's a slightly homosexual feeling about Moore's Bond in the film.

    Wow.I dont know how you could have gotten that impression from Moores Bond, and from Moonraker? The one where he sleeps with a record amount of women?

    He sleeps with a record amount of women in A View To A Kill.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Samuel001 wrote:
    AstonLotus wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Another (final) controversial opinion regarding MR:

    There's a slightly homosexual feeling about Moore's Bond in the film.

    Wow.I dont know how you could have gotten that impression from Moores Bond, and from Moonraker? The one where he sleeps with a record amount of women?

    He sleeps with a record amount of women in A View To A Kill.

    You're not including Grace Jones in that are you? ;-)
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
    Posts: 1,394
    Iv always gotten the sense that Craigs Bond is the one with a slightly homosexual vibe.Heck he even seems to enjoy Silva feeling him up in SF!
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    AstonLotus wrote:
    Iv always gotten the sense that Craigs Bond is the one with a slightly homosexual vibe.Heck he even seems to enjoy Silva feeling him up in SF!

    Oh God, not this again.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2014 Posts: 11,189
    Hmm...I see your point, but Craig at least had a toughness about him.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,823
    The cap Connery wears on the boat in FRWL makes him look like Popeye.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,514
    chrisisall wrote:
    The cap Connery wears on the boat in FRWL makes him look like Popeye.

    I thought the same thing!!! That was hilarious.

    As for all the homosexual stuff about Bond, I don't believe any of it, especially not Craig's. He was only deflecting the sexual intimidation Silva was trying on him. Pretty obvious if you think past it IMO.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2014 Posts: 11,189
    I always thought the scene with Silva was funny. I remember people laughed at it in the cinema. Actually Silva seemed the one with the homosexual vibe rather than Bond, who flinches a bit when Silva touches his face.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,823
    That was some creepy stuff. Bardem is a great actor.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Hmm...I see your point, but Craig at least had a toughness about him.

    Which should help when wearing leather chaps.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    SaintMark wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Hmm...I see your point, but Craig at least had a toughness about him.

    Which should help when wearing leather chaps.

    Spoken from experience?
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    WillyGalore wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Hmm...I see your point, but Craig at least had a toughness about him.

    Which should help when wearing leather chaps.

    Spoken from experience?

    I passed by my cowboy/indians days because of Mr Spock & Doctor Who. ;)

  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Haha, probably my overactive mind. I just don't find it hard to imagine Moore's MR Bond deciding to come out of the closet after becoming bored following years of spying and womanising:



    Both Lloyd and Bond in MR don't seem all that different.

    :-)) Have not seen this film yet, this clip had me in bits.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    SaintMark wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Hmm...I see your point, but Craig at least had a toughness about him.

    Which should help when wearing leather chaps.

    Spoken from experience?

    I passed by my cowboy/indians days because of Mr Spock & Doctor Who. ;)

    :D
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,997
    - Casino Royale has the most embarrassing dialogue of the series: "I have no armour left. You've stripped it from me. Whatever is left of me - whatever is left of me - whatever I am - I'm yours." Someone got paid to write that?

    - The series didn't need to be rebooted, they just needed to recast, and make Bond#21 as a spy thriller. I would still like to see this, but I won't hold my breath. Maybe with the next actor.

    - Keep the saccharine sound of Michael Buble away from Bond.

    - QUANTUM are a bland substitute for S.P.E.C.T.R.E

    - Some of the Gardner and Benson books should be adapted. I think High Time To Kill would be the easiest to film.

    - There really is no reason why the gun barrel could not have opened up the last 3 films. Were will it be next time, 38 minutes and 17 seconds into the film? Wouldn't surprise me.

    - Bond should be allowed to smoke, it's an integral part of his character.

    - The Tennyson quote was out of place in SF.



    Fear not, more will follow...
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Here's mine:

    - DCINB fans are the most embarrassing of the Bond fraternity.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Here's mine:

    - DCINB fans are the most embarrassing of the Bond fraternity.

    I would say TOO BLOODY PASSIONATE for the good of the Bond fandom. ;)

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,357
    SaintMark wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Here's mine:

    - DCINB fans are the most embarrassing of the Bond fraternity.

    I would say TOO BLOODY PASSIONATE for the good of the Bond fandom. ;)
    Like Trekkies constantly hating on J.J. Abrams version of Star Trek.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,823
    SaintMark wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Here's mine:

    - DCINB fans are the most embarrassing of the Bond fraternity.

    I would say TOO BLOODY PASSIONATE for the good of the Bond fandom. ;)
    Well, I don't THINK so! DCINB fans are EXCELLENT! They have a bold Fleming-esque perspective others seem to sorely LACK! How can you guys make fun of them? Nothing better to do???

    Now wait- that does stand for Dalton Could Incredibly Nail Bond, right-?
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    chrisisall wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Here's mine:

    - DCINB fans are the most embarrassing of the Bond fraternity.

    I would say TOO BLOODY PASSIONATE for the good of the Bond fandom. ;)
    Well, I don't THINK so! DCINB fans are EXCELLENT! They have a bold Fleming-esque perspective others seem to sorely LACK! How can you guys make fun of them? Nothing better to do???

    Now wait- that does stand for Dalton Could Incredibly Nail Bond, right-?

    Oh if only it did ;-)
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