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A lot of people have a tendency to be hyperbolic on internet forums. They don't dislike a movie they hate it and they hate it because it's the worst ever and every single element of its plot is stupid.
SPECTRE is a sub-par Bond entry because Blofeld wore no socks.
There, I ripped out of the double-O closet and dragged it into the light... deal with it.
B-)
Quite true. I keep having to remind myself this isn't a Mission Impossible.
Yes this was SO wrong. And don't get me started on Goldfinger's Bermuda shorts and what that tart Tatiana wanted to wear in Piccadilly.
Potentially enjoyable films just completely ruined... [-(
Or Blofeld sucks if he doesn't wear socks?
Oh and in FRWL Bond is after a typewriter. That's rubbish.
The machine is described as being LIKE a typewriter :P
Not to mention Blofeld in drag.
It IS a typewriter. The Lektor is a typewriter that decodes secret codes. And Tatiana is a tart. So FRWL sucks.
As SPECTRE proved they could jettison entire films from history, so I don't see any problem with dropping that part of the storyline .
Which films were jettisoned?
and mention of 'Quantum', but let's just ignore that because it doesn't fit in with our blinkered view.
Well given that in the film QOS Quatum is set up as this big mysterious organisation that White and Le Chiffre worked for I would say that the links between Quantum and SPECTRE and how they fit together are what needs explaining most of all but one mention in passing is all we get; so airbrushing out of history is about right. The quick mentions of Greene and Quantum are a sop to us fans as the general public won't remember them.
If they could do a George Lucas and go back and change all mentions of Quantum in QOS to SPECTRE that would be the best solution.
But seeing as they won't do that the best thing we can do is just cough and say 'SPECTRE' any time someone mentions Quantum by name in QOS (I think it's only Greene at the end).
Actually those Q lapel badges they put on in the opera scene aren't a million miles away from the octopus logo. Just add more legs to the Q and bobs your uncle.
Maybe Quantum took over more villains organisations adding another leg each time until they came up with the octopus?
All it would take would be a couple of lines from Ernst in the torture scene 'after I killed my father I started Quantum blah blah but now we have rebranded ourselves and are called SPECTRE'.
And then go on to explain what the acronym stands for FFS!! The film is called SPECTRE but it's only Madeline in the hotel and Bond in the safe house to M who ever say the word.
Does anyone disagree with my main point-that EON clearly decided that QoS was a red headed stepchild and minimized mentions of it?
Now for an opinion: Stromberg is one of the great villains of the series. He does the menacing yet suave bit excellently is a very believable megalomaniac. Maybe a more controversial bit: he's better than any villains in Craig or Pierce's era, with the possible exception of Alec.
I was watching TSWLM last night with my gf (like many Chinese, I don't think she's really aware of a Bond pre-Craig) when I had that realization.
But he is more like the unseen Blofeld than any of the others, with his calm and almost detached demeanour. You could be fooled by his exterior.
Oh he was and if I understand they wanted to use Blofeld in early drafts. But the scifi scheme was just one step too far for me.
Yes! thats one of the scenes I'm talking about. It's hilarious and menacing.
I don't hate the movie at all. In fact, I really like a lot of it (although I'm not sure how great I think it is). I just really don't like this Blofeld (or the whole foster child situation, for that matter), which is what I was trying to get across. I just really didn't like anything about him, which is obviously just my own personal subjective opinion.
Just the fact that it's in the script at all, regardless of whether or not Blofeld was being a little cheeky or "vague," bothers me. I might have overstated a bit with the "only reason" claim, but Bond being any motivation for Blofeld's path to creating SPECTRE irks me (just personal taste).
I have other problems with the film, but that's my #1. My #2 would be the feeling that I had during every viewing, which is this sense of exhaustion/creative exhaustion. I can't really put my finger on it, I just didn't feel a lot of life in this one. Maybe I blame Mendes?
Even Hoytema, who wouldn't have any carry-over fatigue this being his first Bond film, didn't impress me as much as I wish he had. Don't get me wrong, the cinematography ranges from good to very good (especially the bits in Blofeld's lair. That scene looks gorgeous - very intentionally 60's and I was okay with that).
Just a lack of energy, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Again, just my personal experience with the thing. Waiting for the Blu-ray now and I'll give it another serious look.